More 3.75-5m parts! :)

[daniel l.]

I was just thinking that the best way to build a large interplanetary vessel would be to have new stock parts that are larger, The ion engines dont have to be so tiny Why not make a 3.75m version! We need bigger nuke engines, Larger and longer crewpods with a detailed interior so we can bring a hundred kerbals to jool with ease! How about a larger command pod that is 5m in size has 20 kerbal capacity and has more of a scifi bridge layout than the 60's style capsule.

[Thomas988]

I am totally in favor of more 3.75 meters parts, such as a shorter adapter and maybe another engine, but I don't like the idea of a big ion or nuclear engine. However, I would like a 3.75 meter crew cabin, perhaps for space stations or even interplanetary craft.

[Rithsom]

A 3.75 meter capsule that holds four Kerbals would be nice, along with a bigger parachute. 2.5, or even 3.75 meter SRBs would also be an interesting addition.

[AbacusWizard]

I'm fine with attaching lots of little ion engines; what I'd really like is a 3.75m xenon tank. The stacks upon stacks upon stacks of tiny containers is what really drives up part count on my Albatross-class Ion Drive (and makes refueling so tedious that it's easier to just launch a new one).

[little square dot]

A 3.75 meter capsule that holds four Kerbals would be nice, along with a bigger parachute. 2.5, or even 3.75 meter SRBs would also be an interesting addition.

In the meantime, have an all-stock welded 3.75m capsule and decoupler... paste the following code in notepad and save it in your gamedata folder as nameofyourchoosing.cfg

 PART
{
	name = vanguardXD_3_75m_commandCapsuleB
	module = Part
	author = little square dot
	rescaleFactor = 1
	PhysicsSignificance = 0

	node_stack_topDock = 0,1.6492,0,0,1,0,1
	node_stack_bottom = 0,-0.6783,0,0,1,0,2

	CrewCapacity = 4
	TechRequired = largeControl
	entryCost = 33000
	cost = 9900
	category = Pods
	subcategory = 0
	title = Vanguard-XD C3-4B Capsule [3.75m] 
	manufacturer = The Department of Placing Things on Other Things
	description = The Vanguard-XD Space Exploration System is purpose-built for long duration missions.  The C3-4B capsule boasts a sizable battery bank, energy-efficient reaction control systems, a built-in communications antenna, docking port, and emergency fuel cells.   
	attachRules = 1,0,1,1,0,0,0
	mass = 7
	dragModelType = default
	maximum_drag = 0.2492
	minimum_drag = 0.2488
	angularDrag = 2.0156
	crashTolerance = 27
	breakingForce = 200
	breakingTorque = 200
	maxTemp = 3400
	fuelCrossFeed = True

	stagingIcon = COMMAND_POD
	vesselType = Ship

	INTERNAL
	{
	  name = PodCockpit
	  offset = 0.0, 0.33, -0.93
	}

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Command/Mk1-2Pod/model
		position = 0,0.446067,0
		scale = 1,1,1
		rotation = 0,0,0
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Aero/protectiveRocketNoseMk7/model
		position = 0,-0.355,0
		scale = 1.4,0.85,1.4
		rotation = 0,0,0
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/largeAdapter/model
		position = 0,0.095,0
		scale = 1.54,0.8,1.54
		rotation = 0,0,0
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Command/mk1pod/model
		position = 0,-0.01,0
		scale = 3,1.7,3
		rotation = 0,0,0
	}	

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/largeAdapter/model
		position = 0,0.17,0
		scale = 1.55,0.875,1.55    //was1.544
		rotation = 0,0,0
	}

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Structural/adapterSmallMiniTall/model
		position = 0,0.22,0
		scale = 3.1,2,3.1
		rotation = 0,0,0
	}

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/largeAdapterShort/model
		position = 0,0.169,0
		scale = 1.544,3.5,1.544
		rotation = 0,0,180
	}

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/decouplerSeparatorTR-XL/model
		position = 0,-0.48,0
		scale = 1.455,1.375,1.455
		rotation = 0,0,180
	}

//ports

	//right

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/decouplerSeparatorTR-18D/model
		position = 1.32,0.421,0
		scale = 0.35,0.24,0.35
		rotation = 53,90,0
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/decouplerStack2m/model
		position = 1.202,0.331,0
		scale = 0.207,0.355,0.207
		rotation = 53,90,0
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Command/cupola/model
		position = 1.08,0.242,0
		scale = 0.3,0.4,0.3
		rotation = 53,90,0
	}

	//left

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/decouplerSeparatorTR-18D/model
		position = -1.32,0.421,0
		scale = 0.35,0.24,0.35
		rotation = 53,270,0
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/decouplerStack2m/model
		position = -1.202,0.331,0
		scale = 0.207,0.355,0.207
		rotation = 53,270,0
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Command/cupola/model
		position = -1.08,0.242,0
		scale = 0.3,0.4,0.3
		rotation = 53,270,0
	}

	//back

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/decouplerSeparatorTR-18D/model
		position = 0,0.421,1.32
		scale = 0.35,0.24,0.35
		rotation = 53,0,0
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/decouplerStack2m/model
		position = 0,0.331,1.202
		scale = 0.207,0.355,0.207
		rotation = 53,0,0
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Command/cupola/model
		position = 0,0.242,1.08
		scale = 0.3,0.4,0.3
		rotation = 53,0,0
	}

	//front

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/decouplerSeparatorTR-18D/model
		position = 0,0.421,-1.32
		scale = 0.35,0.24,0.35
		rotation = 53,180,0
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/decouplerStack2m/model
		position = 0,0.331,-1.202
		scale = 0.207,0.355,0.207
		rotation = 53,180,0
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Command/cupola/model
		position = 0,0.242,-1.08
		scale = 0.3,0.4,0.3
		rotation = 53,180,0
	}

//ladder

//space: 0.254239

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/ladderRadial/model
		position = -0.4449,0.80677,0.75
		scale = 1.25,1.25,1.25
		rotation = 0,60,323.5
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/ladderRadial/model
		position = -0.538329,0.552531,0.9075
		scale = 1.25,1.25,1.25
		rotation = 0,60,323.5
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/ladderRadial/model
		position = -0.634724,0.298292,1.07
		scale = 1.25,1.25,1.25
		rotation = 0,60,323.5
	}
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/ladderRadial/model
		position = -0.73023,0.044053,1.231
		scale = 1.25,1.25,1.25
		rotation = 0,60,323.5
	}

//antenna

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/commsDish16/model
		position = 0,0.993567,-0.66
		scale = 1.15,1.75,1.15
		rotation = 0,0,0
	}

//dock

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/dockingPort/model
		position = 0,1.362,0
		scale = 1,1,1
		rotation = 0,0,0
	}

	RESOURCE
	{
		name = ElectricCharge
		amount = 1000
		maxAmount = 1000
	}

	RESOURCE
	{
		name = MonoPropellant
		amount = 150
		maxAmount = 150
	}

	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleCommand
		minimumCrew = 1
	}

	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleSAS
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleReactionWheel
		PitchTorque = 13
		YawTorque = 13
		RollTorque = 13
		RESOURCE
		{
			name = ElectricCharge
			rate = 0.4
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleScienceExperiment
		experimentID = crewReport
		experimentActionName = Crew Report
		resetActionName = Discard Crew Report
		reviewActionName = Review Report
		useStaging = False
		useActionGroups = True
		hideUIwhenUnavailable = True
		rerunnable = True
		xmitDataScalar = 1.0
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleScienceContainer
		reviewActionName = Review Stored Data
		storeActionName = Store Experiments
		evaOnlyStorage = True
		storageRange = 4.0
	}

	MODULE
	{
	   name = ModuleAnimateGeneric
	   animationName = antenna
	   isOneShot = false

	   startEventGUIName = Extend
	   endEventGUIName = Retract
	   actionGUIName = Toggle Antenna
	}

	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleDataTransmitter

		packetInterval = 0.4
		packetSize = 2

		packetResourceCost = 10.0
		requiredResource = ElectricCharge

		DeployFxModules = 0
	}

	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleGenerator
		isAlwaysActive = false
		requiresAllinputs = true
		resourceThreshold = 0.01
		activateGUIName = Fuel Cell On
		shutdownGUIName = Fuel Cell Off
		efficiency = 95
			INPUT_RESOURCE
			{
			   name = MonoPropellant
			   rate = 0.005
			}	
			OUTPUT_RESOURCE
			{
			   name = ElectricCharge
			   rate = 0.05
			}
	}

	MODULE
	{
	      name = FlagDecal
	      textureQuadName = flagTransform
	}

}

PART
{

// --- general parameters ---
name = vanguardXD_3_75m_commandPodSeparadapter
module = Part
author = little square dot

rescaleFactor = 1

// --- node definitions ---
// definition format is Position X, Position Y, Position Z, Up X, Up Y, Up Z

node_stack_top = 0.0, 0.076, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 1
node_stack_bottom = 0.0, -0.177, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 2

// --- FX definitions ---

fx_gasBurst_white = 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, decouple
fx_gasBurst_white = 0.0, -0.2, 0.0, 0.0, -1.0, 0.0, decouple

sound_vent_large = decouple


// --- editor parameters ---
TechRequired = largeControl
entryCost = 9900
cost = 1050
category = Pods
subcategory = 0
title = Vanguard-XD Capsule Separadapter [3.75m]
manufacturer = The Department of Placing Things on Other Things
description = A 3.75m adapter/separator purpose-built for Vanguard-XD C3-4 Command Capsules.  Features a recessed attachment point to accomodate the curvature of the capsule's integrated heatshield.  Separadapters are attached using explosive bolts, so stage accordingly if you plan to use it as a permanent adpater.
// attachment rules: stack, srfAttach, allowStack, allowSrfAttach, allowCollision
attachRules = 1,0,1,1,0

// --- standard part parameters ---
mass = 0.5
dragModelType = default
maximum_drag = 0.2
minimum_drag = 0.2
angularDrag = 2
crashTolerance = 17
breakingForce = 300
breakingTorque = 300
maxTemp = 3400
fuelCrossFeed = False

stageOffset = 1
childStageOffset = 1

	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/decouplerSeparatorTR-XL/model
		position = 0,0.04,0
		scale = 1.445,1.2,1.445
		rotation = 0,0,180
	}	
	MODEL
	{
		model = Squad/Parts/Utility/decouplerSeparatorTR-XL/model
		position = 0,-0.04,0
		scale = 1.448,1.2,1.448
		rotation = 0,0,0
	}	

	MODEL
	{
		model = NASAmission/Parts/Size3Decoupler/size3Decoupler
		position = 0,0,0
		scale = 1.007,0.35,1.007
		rotation = 0,0,0
	}

//bar

	//MODEL
	//{
		//model = Squad/Parts/Utility/sensorBarometer/model
		//position = 1.958135,-0.05,0.02
		//scale = 2.32,2.9,0.96
		//rotation = 0,90,270
	//}


// ----- DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS POINT ------

MODULE
{
    name = ModuleDecouple
    isOmniDecoupler = true
    ejectionForce = 500
}

MODULE
{
	name = ModuleTestSubject

	// nowhere: 0, srf: 1, ocean: 2, atmo: 4, space: 8
	environments = 15

	useStaging = True
	useEvent = False
}

}

[Bill Phil]

They're limited for a good reason. The devs want you to focus on the smaller rockets. I mean, how many super rockets are there in real life? Five? So it makes sense.

[Daze]

Even for 2.5mt there's too little choice of station parts or xenon tanks

[Darnok]

A 3.75 meter capsule that holds four Kerbals would be nice, along with a bigger parachute. 2.5, or even 3.75 meter SRBs would also be an interesting addition.

^ this + more rocket and jet engines for 2.5 and 3.75. More space station parts for both 2.5 and 3.75, some bigelow like parts, 3.75 processing lab.

Also 2.5 and 3.75 cargo bays, so we could build service module capable to transport small objects.

They're limited for a good reason. The devs want you to focus on the smaller rockets. I mean, how many super rockets are there in real life? Five? So it makes sense.

They are limited because that update was made in hurry, peolpe also stated it was very buggy update?

Edited March 12, 2015 by Darnok

[Whirligig Girl]

There's a practical limit on how big you can build an ion thruster. As the thrust output increases linearly, the power input increases exponentially. 3.75m Ion Engines are not practical. Nuclear Engines, however, could be upscaled, but it would be much too bulky, probably heavier than a fuel tank. You'd want a Nuclear-Lightbulb. Actually, that would be really cool in stock. Porkjet already made one in Atomic Age.

[GreenWolf]

They're limited for a good reason. The devs want you to focus on the smaller rockets. I mean, how many super rockets are there in real life? Five? So it makes sense.

Actually, there are very few commonly used rockets in real life with a diameter less than 2.5 meters. In fact, most of them are more than 3 meters in diameter. The range of sizes seems to be between 5 meters and 2.5 meters.

Of course, Kerbin is a tenth the size of Earth, so it would probably have smaller rockets.

[Frozen_Heart]

I agree that the 3.75m line needs to be finished. It heavily lacking.

I'd like 5m things so I could make Saturn V replicas. However there are so many more important things than adding another size

[Rath]

I think we need a poodle or LV-909 variant for 3.75 Metre