Problems with Remote Tech 2

OpenWorldAddict · March 21, 2015

My 54 hour livestream kerbal space center real time challenge ultimately failed when i started having problems with Remote Tech 2. I was trying to launch my first communications satellite, but I would lose control of the rocket as soon as it left the pad. The end result of that is that I couldn't stage it and thus it soon after crashed. After trying to launch it dozens of times and making tweaks on many different things (including changing the direction the communication devices pointed, nothing worked and frustration began to build up. Eventually in anger I gave up. I can't complete the challenge if I can't get one communication satellite off the ground.

Malah · March 21, 2015

You lost the communications at 3 km? On Remote Tech, a probe can communicate only at 3 km, you need to put a Reflectron DP-10 to communicate in the atmosphere (for an other antenna, you need to extend them in order to communicate).

If, it's not this, have you sufficient electricity?

OpenWorldAddict · March 21, 2015

I had a communitron 16. I could not get the reflectetron dp 10 to fit on my rocket. Is there anyway for me to have it activated once it goes onto the launcpad without me having to press any buttons are do any right clicking (which is hard to select such a small part.)?

Yemo · March 21, 2015

I had a communitron 16. I could not get the reflectetron dp 10 to fit on my rocket. Is there anyway for me to have it activated once it goes onto the launcpad without me having to press any buttons are do any right clicking (which is hard to select such a small part.)?

I only know about FAR, but maybe it is the case for stock as well:

In the atmosphere, you have to use the DP-10 pointed vertically, if you use another antenna, it breaks, if you use the DP-10 not with one end pointed towards the direction of travel, it breaks. It also likes to break when clipped into another part.

Or you could use the SETI-BalanceMod in my signature, in which every command pod/probe core has an integrated always on 160km antenna, enough to leave the atmosphere.

Mecripp · March 21, 2015

The 16 will breaks off if your below around 30000 unless you edit out MaxQ = ****.

EDIT- Just edit out MaxQ = **** so much better.

EDIT- And Yemo your way he or she could just edit the probecore to that range.

EDIT-

@PART[launchClamp1]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntennaPassive] {
%OmniRange = 5000
}
}
@PART[longAntenna]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
!MODULE[ModuleDataTransmitter] {}
@MODULE[ModuleAnimateGeneric]
{
%allowManualControl = false
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%Mode0OmniRange = 0
%Mode1OmniRange = 2500000
%EnergyCost = 0.13
%DeployFxModules = 0
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}
@PART[mediumDishAntenna]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
!MODULE[ModuleDataTransmitter] {}
@MODULE[ModuleAnimateGeneric]
{
%allowManualControl = false
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%Mode0DishRange = 0
%Mode1DishRange = 50000000
%EnergyCost = 0.82
%DishAngle = 45.0
%DeployFxModules = 0
%ProgressFxModules = 1
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}
@PART[commDish]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
!MODULE[ModuleDataTransmitter] {}
@MODULE[ModuleAnimateGeneric]
{
%allowManualControl = false
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%Mode0DishRange = 0
%Mode1DishRange = 40000000000
%EnergyCost = 0.93
%DishAngle = 0.06
%DeployFxModules = 0
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}

@PART[RTShortAntenna1]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%TechRequired = flightControl
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%IsRTActive = true
%Mode0OmniRange = 0
%Mode1OmniRange = 500000
%EnergyCost = 0.01
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}
@PART[RTLongAntenna2]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%TechRequired = largeElectrics
@MODULE[ModuleAnimateGeneric]
{
%allowManualControl = false
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%Mode0OmniRange = 0
%Mode1OmniRange = 5000000
%EnergyCost = 0.6
%DeployFxModules = 0
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}
@PART[RTLongAntenna3]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%TechRequired = specializedElectrics
@MODULE[ModuleAnimateGeneric]
{
%allowManualControl = false
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%Mode0OmniRange = 0
%Mode1OmniRange = 3000000
%EnergyCost = 0.18
%DeployFxModules = 0
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}
@PART[RTShortDish1]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%Mode0DishRange = 0
%Mode1DishRange = 90000000
%EnergyCost = 0.82
%DishAngle = 25.0
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}
@PART[RTShortDish2]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%TechRequired = electrics
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%Mode0DishRange = 0
%Mode1DishRange = 90000000
%EnergyCost = 0.82
%DishAngle = 25.0
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}
@PART[RTLongDish1]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%Mode0DishRange = 0
%Mode1DishRange = 60000000000
%EnergyCost = 0.93
%DishAngle = 0.04
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}
@PART[RTLongDish2]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%TechRequired = largeElectrics
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%Mode0DishRange = 0
%Mode1DishRange = 60000000000
%EnergyCost = 0.93
%DishAngle = 0.04
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}
@PART[RTGigaDish1]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%TechRequired = advScienceTech
@MODULE[ModuleAnimateGeneric]
{
%allowManualControl = false
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%Mode0DishRange = 0
%Mode1DishRange = 400000000000
%EnergyCost = 2.80
%DishAngle = 0.005
%DeployFxModules = 0
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}
@PART[RTGigaDish2]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%TechRequired = specializedElectrics
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntenna] {
%Mode0DishRange = 0
%Mode1DishRange = 350000000000
%EnergyCost = 2.60
%DishAngle = 0.006
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
%MODULE[ModuleSPUPassive] {}
}

@PART[probeCoreSphere]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%MODULE[ModuleSPU] {
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntennaPassive] {
%TechRequired = unmannedTech
%OmniRange = 160000
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
}
@PART[probeStackLarge]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%MODULE[ModuleSPU] {
%IsRTCommandStation = true
%RTCommandMinCrew = 6
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntennaPassive] {
%TechRequired = unmannedTech
%OmniRange = 160000
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
}
@PART[probeStackSmall]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%MODULE[ModuleSPU] {
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntennaPassive] {
%TechRequired = unmannedTech
%OmniRange = 160000
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
}
@PART[probeCoreOcto]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%MODULE[ModuleSPU] {
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntennaPassive] {
%TechRequired = unmannedTech
%OmniRange = 160000
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
}
@PART[probeCoreOcto2]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%MODULE[ModuleSPU] {
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntennaPassive] {
%TechRequired = unmannedTech
%OmniRange = 160000
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
}
@PART[probeCoreHex]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%MODULE[ModuleSPU] {
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntennaPassive] {
%TechRequired = unmannedTech
%OmniRange = 160000
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
}
@PART[probeCoreCube]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%MODULE[ModuleSPU] {
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntennaPassive] {
%TechRequired = unmannedTech
%OmniRange = 160000
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
}
@PART[mk2DroneCore]:FOR[RemoteTech]
{
%MODULE[ModuleSPU] {
}
%MODULE[ModuleRTAntennaPassive] {
%TechRequired = unmannedTech
%OmniRange = 160000
%TRANSMITTER {
%PacketInterval = 0.3
%PacketSize = 2
%PacketResourceCost = 15.0
}
}
}

Edited March 21, 2015 by Mecripp2

Yemo · March 21, 2015

The 16 will breaks off if your below around 30000 unless you edit out MaxQ = ****.
EDIT- Just edit out MaxQ = **** so much better.
EDIT- And Yemo your way he or she could just edit the probecore to that range.

Yep, but I figured if he asks this question, he is not proficient at modding/editing configs.

Mecripp · March 21, 2015

Yep, but I figured if he asks this question, he is not proficient at modding/editing configs.

True didn't think of that lol @OpenWorldAddict can put them in a cfg if you need them ?

hab136 · March 21, 2015

II could not get the reflectetron dp 10 to fit on my rocket.

It's surface-mount. Put it on the outside of your booster stage, then once you're out of the atmosphere (or at least above 40km) and open your fairings, deploy the "real" antenna. Let the booster stage fall back to Kerbin with the DP-10.

Is there anyway for me to have it activated once it goes onto the launcpad without me having to press any buttons are do any right clicking (which is hard to select such a small part.)?

You should be able to set it to start deployed in the editor (might need TweakableEverything, not sure). But don't do that, it will break. RemoteTech antennas don't pay any attention to fairings for deciding whether or not to break in the atmosphere.

OpenWorldAddict · March 21, 2015

This is the rocket I was building, the Singular 1. It was just a rehash of the Beta rocket design (the rocket that i used to get the first kerbals into orbit) with a stayputnik probe pod on top instead of the command module, and some solar panels and batteries on the side. The Communitron 16 is on top of the Stayputnik pod. When i tried to put the reflectron Dp 10 on, it didn't look like it was attaching to my rockets. Oh, and by the way, those boosters only get the rocket up to between 6000 to 9000 meters.

Edited March 21, 2015 by OpenWorldAddict

Mecripp · March 21, 2015

Why in the atmosphere your Communitron 16 is going to break with the setting of MaxQ= ***** even if it's in the Fairing so you have to use the DP-10 or edit out MaxQ= *** line in the cfg's or bump up the range of the probe cores.

EDIT- You can try this, I edited out MaxQ= ** on the stock parts https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/72893034/GameData.zip

Edited March 21, 2015 by Mecripp2

Yemo · March 21, 2015

Well, we explained what to do about the antenna (the DP-10 model is a bit weird, it leaves a visible space, so it seems to "hover").

About your boosters, I guess you did not adjust their thrust with the TWR info in KER?

OpenWorldAddict · March 21, 2015

I don't edit cfg's period. In fact, i don't install mods manually either. All the mods I have were installed using KSP Mod Admin. I've been using mod managers like that for ages in all my modded games, and I won't go back because during the times when i install things manually, when I come to uninstall them I end up deleting things the game needs to run. Mod managers makes installation and uninstallation much safer.

- - - Updated - - -

(the DP-10 model is a bit weird, it leaves a visible space, so it seems to "hover")

Oh, so that is what was going... I thought that they just were not attached. I'll try it again.

Talking about fairings, I could not get them on. As you can see in the image i posted before, i placed a fairing base below the Stayputnik probe pod, but then when i tried to put the fairings I had available, I get not get them to work.

Edited March 21, 2015 by OpenWorldAddict

Mecripp · March 21, 2015

No not really depends on how the mod folders are setup so Mod managers can fail at installing mods.

OpenWorldAddict · March 21, 2015

I've never had an issue with KSP mod admin, and you with in that program you can select which folders are installed.

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