Anyone rich enough to pay for a Jebidiah Doll to be put into Real Life orbit jsut for fun?

[Gerandar]

because thats what we need in space, more useless junk!

[PlonioFludrasco]

Another idea.

We could send a sort of Arecibo message depicting us as little green men with an addiction to explosions.

Just joking, but I think that would count as the first-ever interstellar trolling. How amazing!!

[Hcube]

Alright everyone. Since a lot of guys are mistaken here, I'll make things more clear.

HIS NAME IS JEBEDIAH, NOT JEBIDIAH ! JEB ! JEBEDIAH ! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ? JEBEDIAH KERMAN !

Sorry for the spelling stroke but this had to be done

Back on topic, why not paint Jeb on a cubesat ? Best of both !

[merendel]

So, rather than send a doll up to space, or a functional cube-sat... How much would it cost to CREATE a Jebidiah Constellation?

Make no mistake, I KNOW that the engineering for the "computer in space" cube-sat isn't going to be easy. Getting RCS on board and getting permissions for "Low dB radio transmissions" would be crazy. Having the software to orient the sat to reflect ambient light in a coordinated manner while running off of something low enough power consuming...

But the idea of seeing Jebidiah Riding a SRB across the night sky, for all the world to see, is golden.

No way that could be pulled off. Orbital mechanics dont work like a squadron of jets flying in formation. A constellation of sats drawing anything other than a strait(well curved) line along their shared orbital path would very rapidly drift out of formation. You'd need to expend alot of dV to hold them in a formation that would be recognizable from the surface. You could technicly get them to look like jeb for a briefe period of time, say one pass over a specific geographic location. However by the next orbit "Jeb" would come out looking like a tattoo on saggy skin. It would be like those guys that got a tattoo of a prety lady on their bulging biceps and then lost alot of mussle mass, the tat looks like .... afterwards. A few orbits later and there would be anything even that recognizable.

Basicly way to expensive to ever be worth it.

[Fel]

No way that could be pulled off. Orbital mechanics dont work like a squadron of jets flying in formation. A constellation of sats drawing anything other than a strait(well curved) line along their shared orbital path would very rapidly drift out of formation. You'd need to expend alot of dV to hold them in a formation that would be recognizable from the surface. You could technicly get them to look like jeb for a briefe period of time, say one pass over a specific geographic location. However by the next orbit "Jeb" would come out looking like a tattoo on saggy skin. It would be like those guys that got a tattoo of a prety lady on their bulging biceps and then lost alot of mussle mass, the tat looks like .... afterwards. A few orbits later and there would be anything even that recognizable.

Basicly way to expensive to ever be worth it.

Elliptical orbits with the same period.

I don't doubt that it is going to drift eventually, especially in low earth orbit, but for a few million dollars, just 50 dollars from every person who bought KSP, we could do it!

[Hcube]

Elliptical orbits with the same period.

I don't doubt that it is going to drift eventually, especially in low earth orbit, but for a few million dollars, just 50 dollars from every person who bought KSP, we could do it!

if they are elliptical, different, and made so that the sats come very close each time they pass close to earth.... No it´s not possible. Do you know about tidal forces ?

Wait, are you for real ? do you think that everyone that has bought KSP can afford 50 bucks for this ?

50$ is a lot of money.

unless this was a joke of course

[Sandworm]

Another idea.

We could send a sort of Arecibo message depicting us as little green men with an addiction to explosions.

Just joking, but I think that would count as the first-ever interstellar trolling. How amazing!!

Transmit a full working copy of KSP, along with ubuntu, so they can experience our understanding of space travel.

[sedativechunk]

I think someone else posted it here, but yes, it cost about $10,000 USD to put one pound of something into orbit. Elon Musk's Space X rocket is far from perfected to lower the cost of space launches anytime soon.

The bottom line is, why would we want to do this? Personally, I don't like people putting junk into orbit around Earth, that includes mementos, ashes of dead people, and other things that don't belong there. In the end, it's space debris, which can be a hazard for future space explorers.

Personally, I do appreciate KSP, and I feel that the game should have a plaque/flag put on another world instead. Something that won't fade or deteriorate in the environment of space. Maybe on Mars, they should make a small kerbal face for the easter egg one located on Duna in the game. Why can't we dream big? Let's put a KSP memento on another world!

[roosterr]

I would bet money that Elon Musk would be cool with sending Jeb up on a Dragon capsule, what could it weigh? He sent a round of cheese up for the hell of it one time, much heavier then say a stuffed Jeb doll. Plus Mr. Musk is fond of STEM education, what a better way to sell that to kids. The SpaceX price is now less than 2500 per pound

ELON, you out there????!!!!!! Hello!!!! READ This!

Edited April 17, 2015 by roosterr

[Hcube]

quote fail ? you might want ro edit your post, cause we cant understand a thing there

[Fel]

if they are elliptical, different, and made so that the sats come very close each time they pass close to earth.... No it´s not possible. Do you know about tidal forces ?

Wait, are you for real ? do you think that everyone that has bought KSP can afford 50 bucks for this ?

50$ is a lot of money.

unless this was a joke of course

Jebediah does not approve! Launch sats now, do maths later!

We'll just use quantum struts. Quantum Struts will make it work.

Personally, I do appreciate KSP, and I feel that the game should have a plaque/flag put on another world instead. Something that won't fade or deteriorate in the environment of space. Maybe on Mars, they should make a small kerbal face for the easter egg one located on Duna in the game. Why can't we dream big? Let's put a KSP memento on another world!

That's even better! We'll spend 1 billion dollars blasting Jeb's face into the moon!

The bottom line is, why would we want to do this? Personally, I don't like people putting junk into orbit around Earth, that includes mementos, ashes of dead people, and other things that don't belong there. In the end, it's space debris, which can be a hazard for future space explorers.

Forgive my ignorance, but don't we only have rights to put it in fairly low earth orbit, intending for it to eventually decay and fall back down to earth?

Edited April 17, 2015 by Fel

[Othuyeg]

I remember an article on the school menu from way back that would easily classify as mystery goo. Maybe they should send a canister of that up to the ISS. More scientific.

[roosterr]

I think someone else posted it here, but yes, it cost about $10,000 USD to put one pound of something into orbit. Elon Musk's Space X rocket is far from perfected to lower the cost of space launches anytime soon.

The bottom line is, why would we want to do this? Personally, I don't like people putting junk into orbit around Earth, that includes mementos, ashes of dead people, and other things that don't belong there. In the end, it's space debris, which can be a hazard for future space explorers.

Personally, I do appreciate KSP, and I feel that the game should have a plaque/flag put on another world instead. Something that won't fade or deteriorate in the environment of space. Maybe on Mars, they should make a small kerbal face for the easter egg one located on Duna in the game. Why can't we dream big? Let's put a KSP memento on another world!

You are very wrong about the cost: http://www.airspacemag.com/space/is-spacex-changing-the-rocket-equation-132285884/?no-ist

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quote fail ? you might want ro edit your post, cause we cant understand a thing there

If you are talking about my post, that wasnt a fail, that was intentional, i do that to draw in trolls, and then clean it up within 1 minute of my supposed blundered post. Looks like my little plan worked.

Edited April 17, 2015 by roosterr

[stibbons]

You are very wrong about the cost: http://www.airspacemag.com/space/is-spacex-changing-the-rocket-equation-132285884/?no-ist

Not really. If you want to talk about raw wholesale bulk $/kg, then that article is right. The ~$10000US figure is an approximate cost for putting a cubesat in LEO, including all of the non-payload hardware. And, at a very rough guess, the weight limit after the chassis and control gear is a pound, give or take.

[lajoswinkler]

Don't bother. The Cubesat thread is going nowhere and even the spinoff project I've launched (Jeb on a stratospheric balloon) was too complex for the community despite being ridiculously simple and affordable.

[GigaG]

You know... personally... I think cube-sats sound very boring. *I have a point, just wait* I know that dealing with EM regulations alone just so you can transmit data to another satellite and piggyback your way to and from earth can give people a headache; let alone getting a direct band. In the end, you have what amounts to a computer going around the planet... and personal pride in achieving the task.

But I started thinking; sputnik could be seen from the surface of the earth, couldn't it? Yes it was just a cube-sat (Well, sphere, but it looked about the specified dimensions) Reflected light off the sun, but it could be seen.

So, rather than send a doll up to space, or a functional cube-sat... How much would it cost to CREATE a Jebidiah Constellation?

Make no mistake, I KNOW that the engineering for the "computer in space" cube-sat isn't going to be easy. Getting RCS on board and getting permissions for "Low dB radio transmissions" would be crazy. Having the software to orient the sat to reflect ambient light in a coordinated manner while running off of something low enough power consuming...

But the idea of seeing Jebidiah Riding a SRB across the night sky, for all the world to see, is golden.

Besides complexity, there's another issue. I don't think Sputnik was visible. I think the visible part was the core stage of its rocket.

[lajoswinkler]

Besides complexity, there's another issue. I don't think Sputnik was visible. I think the visible part was the core stage of its rocket.

It was visible. AFAIK three dots. The brightest was the stage. Then there was the fairing, and the dimmest was the actual Sputnik. What most people saw was the core stage.

[Fel]

Don't bother. The Cubesat thread is going nowhere and even the spinoff project I've launched (Jeb on a stratospheric balloon) was too complex for the community despite being ridiculously simple and affordable.

Well, the cubesat really doesn't seem like a realistic goal. If they don't piggyback, then they need to have RF engineers design a high quality filtering system that doesn't bleed back onto the spectrum; if they try to just use Open Radio for short range (relatively speaking) communications and piggyback, but don't have Engineers experienced with FPGA, DSP, and RF; you'll have something that might appear to work down here but develops problems when placed in a real world setting. In short, there is nothing for other members to really do. The fallacy of open source is that everyone can do something, but if everyone tried submitting sub-quality code; some of it will get through and the project would quickly halt because of the submission backlogs.

A project that is as exclusionary as that isn't going to go anywhere with a community as diverse as our own. We might crowdfund it after developed, but you'd get a better turn out designing a cubesat mod than the actual cubesat.