Serassa Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I have interpreted this challenge as counting towards the "F3" mission top speed.their km/h final speed at the end of the run..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plotz Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Ok, good point. That would make no sense, as the parachutes hopefully slow it down to zero . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serassa Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Ok, good point. That would make no sense, as the parachutes hopefully slow it down to zero .The OP didn't even mention that you had to stop before the end of the runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plotz Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Ok, that made me think enough to stop work on my heavy entry. Here's the Lorry #19, waiting for your download. It follows my interpretation that a craft has to come to a full stop at the end of the runway. - At 15,445 kgs it's heavy.- Four wheels- Two Winglets- Single ParachuteCommand instructions:- stage boosters (S1) until fuel runs out- stage parachute (S0)- when at less than 5m/s, apply brakes for a full stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Ok, that made me think enough to stop work on my heavy entry. Here's the Lorry #19, waiting for your download. It follows my interpretation that a craft has to come to a full stop at the end of the runway. - At 15,445 kgs it's heavy.- Four wheels- Two Winglets- Single ParachuteCommand instructions:- stage boosters (S1) until fuel runs out- stage parachute (S0)- when at less than 5m/s, apply brakes for a full stopOnly problem is that the OP has said he doesn't apply brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plotz Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Then the parachute will do it anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlipNascar Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 The OP didn't even mention that you had to stop before the end of the runway.Implied, because it states that it cannot under any circumstances leave the runway. So you can balance it... More engines, more thrust for a longer burn. More parachutes to stop, and thus hope that your extra speed is enough to negate the detrimental points of extra parachutes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serassa Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Implied, because it states that it cannot under any circumstances leave the runway. So you can balance it... More engines, more thrust for a longer burn. More parachutes to stop, and thus hope that your extra speed is enough to negate the detrimental points of extra parachutes...So where do I stop where is the end of the run? Can I just accelerate and then stop half way down the runway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlipNascar Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Would assume so. Some of my designs don't get to the end of the runway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John FX Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Can I just say that from my experience serassa only seems to post to cause contention on challenges. They posted 6 out of their first 9 posts in my challenge thread only to submit cheaty entries and nitpick about the quality of the challenge. If you look at their post history you will see a pattern...They are doing the same in the kerbals to orbit thread, they did it in my sundive thread, in the circumnavigation thread, in the historical planes thread and also here.They seem to want only to disrupt and annoy. I would not pay too much attention to things they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serassa Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Can I just say that from my experience serassa only seems to post to cause contention on challenges. They posted 6 out of their first 9 posts in my challenge thread only to submit cheaty entries and nitpick about the quality of the challenge. If you look at their post history you will see a pattern...They are doing the same in the kerbals to orbit thread, they did it in my sundive thread, in the circumnavigation thread, in the historical planes thread and also here.They seem to want only to disrupt and annoy. I would not pay too much attention to things they say.Maybe because those challenges aren't very well designed and leave things ambiguous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam_Jones Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Maybe because those challenges aren't very well designed and leave things ambiguous?Give it a rest, man, honestly.We don't take kindly to those that just wish to incite. Either do the challenges, or don't. Just please don't just sit here crying about every little thing.Edit: Also, I'd LOVE to see what kind of challenge you can come up with Why don't you post one and let us take a look at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilfr3d Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Well your Big Mac simply explodes on the runway for me.Anyway, let me get this straight, here you said that your big mac weighs 28.2t I don't know where that comes from, it weight 29.8t to me, and 26t when empty. So when you say the weight of the dragstar, do you mean weight at the start? or do you mean weight at the end of the race?Also what do you mean by the end of the run? Do you mean the end of the runway? The designs submitted so far don't have their top speeds at the end of the runway because they don't have enough fuel to last that long. Or maybe you just mean top speed? In that case is the run over after top speed is achieved? can I break any of the rules after the run is over?And what do you mean by leaving the runway? do you mean we have to stop before the end of the runway? Or do you mean we just can't go off the side? If We have to stop before the end, then what counts as the end of the run? If I just run for 50 meters and stop does that count as a run?The weight was just what I could remember by the time I uploaded it and made the post. Weight is calculated as initial launch weight. Well, the runway is the runway, isn't it? It can't go off it, period. The challenge is designed with the rules and guidelines the way it is to provide variation in peoples designs, allowing people to achieve large amounts of points in their score with very different designs. As a rules of thumb, as long as the craft slows down to below 20m/s, I'll just do the "F3", check the speed then end the run. If you can't understand what the challenge is about, yet others can clearly, I am NOT going to change the rules, and guidelines, nor am I going to cater for you and explain everything just to be understood by you. If you don't like the challenge, leave - it's simple. If you further continue to ask questions about the challenge which are clearly outlined in the OP, not only are you going to be ignored, but you are also going to be reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilfr3d Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Good, glad to hear that.This post is reserved for my entry.Reserved posts are not re-checked for entries, make a new post for your entry else it will not be counted in the final collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire219 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Quick question: are parts allowed to overheat and explode? I have a design I'm happy with. However, some of the engines explode from heat near the end of their burn. Every single one of the 10+ runs I've put it through, the craft has survived and braked via chute safely. Even have gotten the same speed record each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilfr3d Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Quick question: are parts allowed to overheat and explode? I have a design I'm happy with. However, some of the engines explode from heat near the end of their burn. Every single one of the 10+ runs I've put it through, the craft has survived and braked via chute safely. Even have gotten the same speed record each time. You can detach parts, explode parts, break parts - it doesn't matter, the run will still be taken for data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire219 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 In that case, it's time to introduce my entry: the Fat n' Fast!The Fat n' Fast is named quite appropriately. It is quite wide for it's comparative length, and is faster than even Jeb's wildest dreams. It also puts on quite a show, using the last of it's fuel to make some large and dramatic (yet harmless) fireworks.Powered by sixty-two Sepratrons, it just barely comes under the solid fuel limit, at 496.Instructions:1. SAS on. Like probably every other entry, it is not too stable without it.2. Ignite and enjoy the show.3. Right after the "show" ended with a boom and a shimmy, the fuel should be exhausted. Stage to chute-brake at your soonest convenience.Download: here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ion Man Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 How many runs do you perform per dragster? Is there a failure rate you accept, or does it have to be one single run, getting to 3xx m/s and you're done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilfr3d Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) How many runs do you perform per dragster? Is there a failure rate you accept, or does it have to be one single run, getting to 3xx m/s and you're done?It's stated in the OP that I perform 3 runs per dragster. If the dragster explodes during the run, it results in a DNF for that drag. If it runs off of the runway, the dragster gets a DNF for that drag. Whatever speed your dragster reaches during the run before running out of fuel is the value that I take to form the points, it doesn't matter if it only 100m/s or 500m/s+. Edited May 13, 2015 by ToTheMun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilfr3d Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Just a notice to everyone, that entries for the first round are still open. Entries close on the 13th, as stated on the OP, and testing should be finished by about the 15th of May. Highlight videos should be released on about the 16th of May (if I am releasing a highlights video at all), with the results for the round being released on the 16th of May too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilfr3d Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Only 2 days left until the current round of entries closes. Looks like it's going to be a small first round, easier to become the #1 dragster with less people around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serassa Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Don't worry I already have my dragstar ready, I'm just waiting for the deadline. No point posting it early and have it copied with slight improvement by others right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.johnson841 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I have an entry or two as well, im just doing final testing on my "interesting" design.- Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersol Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 It seems like there are few to no qualified entries in the small tier, so I decided to create a couple of entries there. I wasn't sure how the parachute rules will work out, so I built two similar craft that slow down very differently.Without further ado, I present Bonsai and Kamikaze:Bonsai is 3 stages with a chute, download hereKamikaze is 5 stages with retro rockets, download hereSpecial Instructions:They need 2-3 seconds to settle in after the physics load. If you wait until they start to roll at 0.1 m/s then that means they should be good to go. After that, you can stage normally, but be aware that the stages are fast at around 2s each.This challenge was a great way to try building something completely new, so thanks!Cheers,CyberSoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilfr3d Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 It seems like there are few to no qualified entries in the small tier, so I decided to create a couple of entries there. I wasn't sure how the parachute rules will work out, so I built two similar craft that slow down very differently.Without further ado, I present Bonsai and Kamikaze:Bonsai is 3 stages with a chute, download hereKamikaze is 5 stages with retro rockets, download hereSpecial Instructions:They need 2-3 seconds to settle in after the physics load. If you wait until they start to roll at 0.1 m/s then that means they should be good to go. After that, you can stage normally, but be aware that the stages are fast at around 2s each.This challenge was a great way to try building something completely new, so thanks!Cheers,CyberSoulInteresting use of the retro rockets, I was thinking about using that for my dragster, but decided that chutes would be better for the speeds I was going at. And it's a pleasure to provide something different and new to build!! Hope to see you entering again some other time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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