Zeppelin Development - Handegg, Brynhildr, Valkyrie +biplane

[spaceBrezel]

Technically the following crafts are actually VTOL crafts disguised as Zeppelins. Sadly there is no stock feature providing balloons.

I have a lot of fun building them so maybe i will add more Zeppelins in the future.

Currently there are 3 versions available:

"HandEgg" (95 parts)

"Brynhildr" (267 parts)

"Valkyrie" (479 parts) (1.04 performance problems)

All crafts are available for download. See for yourself:

Zeppelin HandEgg S7E4F *NEW*

Highlight: Strong landing gear for unpowered impact, 7x symmetry

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Here is a video to show off its flying capabilities:

You can download it here: http://kerbalx.com/spaceBrezel/Zeppelin-Handegg-S7E4f

Flight instructions

First stage starts all engines. Enable SAS and go full throttle and pitch little forward to gain speed.

Roll rate is very high be careful.

Check out the video for details.

You can add at least 2 more engines for more power. Just copy the engine mounts (alt+lclick) inside the craft.

Craft stats

Mass: 33.3t

Parts: 95

Length: 16.7 m

Height: 8.2m

Width: 6.2m

Absolute ceiling: ~11km

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Zeppelin Brynhildr S17E9F

Highlight: streamlined 17x symmetry with fairings

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Here is a video to show off its flying capabilities (ksp1.02):

You can download it here: http://kerbalx.com/spaceBrezel/Zeppelin-S17E9F-Brynhildr

Flight instructions

First stage starts all engines. You can disable the rear engine by pressing "1". "8" disables all vertical engines. If you start with your rear engine enabled just pitch up when you reach 8 m/s. Enable SAS for more flying comfort.

Check out the video for details.

If you roll to 30 degree you have best yaw control. Range is limited, but feel free to add more fuel.

Max. payload weight is 15 t. 1.25m parts should fit with no problem.

(1.04 performance slightly less)

Craft stats

Mass: 115.6 t

Parts: 267

Length: 36 m

Height: 15 m

Absolute ceiling: 2000 m

Max speed: drop it from space

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Zeppelin Valkyrie +biplane

Highlight: carries a simple biplane

Here is a video to show off its flying capabilities (ksp1.02):

You can download it here: http://kerbalx.com/spaceBrezel/Zeppelin-Valkyrie-biplane

Flight instructions

First stage starts the Zeppelins engines. Throttle up and wait till your engines generate enough power. Apply brakes if needed.

EVA your biplane pilot sitting inside the lander can on the bottom of the craft and board the command seat inside the plane. Can be done mid-flight.

Second stage starts the biplanes engine. Wait till it generates some thrust before decoupling.

Third stages decouples the plane. If you did not bring a second pilot you can right click the small OKTO pod and "control from here".

All other stages fire decouplers from your biplane. They barely do any damage but provide explosions.

Ramming is also a good tactic.

Craft stats

Mass: 100.5 t

Parts: 479 (with biplane) 419 (without biplane)

Length: 42 m

Height: 21 m

My older video featuring a slightly different (more epic) version:

Edited October 24, 2015 by spaceBrezel
another zeppelin

[Aanker]

You should attach some biplanes to that

[spaceBrezel]

You should attach some biplanes to that

Thats a cool idea! Will try

Guess i need more jet engines errr hydrogen then.

[vitekc45c]

I know im beating a dead horse here, but this thing flyes like lead zeppelin.

[spaceBrezel]

the biplane idea works pretty well!

removed the lower crew compartment and replaced it with a basic biplane.

one crew member needs to switch vessel at start

zeppelin stays level after decoupling so lots of fun to fly around

good hit - eject eject eject

blimp is badly damaged but still ok (cant land anyway )

[SHiftER2O]

Oh, the properties of a makeshift balloon xD +rep

[skepticon]

you could probably make a really sweet zep using the new fairings and the max bounds trick.

[SHiftER2O]

you could probably make a really sweet zep using the new fairings and the max bounds trick.

*mindblown* Of course!!

[spaceBrezel]

you could probably make a really sweet zep using the new fairings and the max bounds trick.

Yeah good point. Those new fairings are the reason i tried to build a blimp.

I have stopped using them because i don't want to accidentally stage my whole front...

Also they are pretty heavy. My current iteration weights around 102 T or 110 T with a "similar" fairing front (still missing 5m length).

However part count is reduced by 79..

The biplane is now armed with decouplers and i have added landing gears.

Im also pretty sure there is a weight/form class where fairings are a viable option!

- - - Updated - - -

Oh, the properties of a makeshift balloon xD +rep

thanks!

makeshift balloon with jet engines

Edited May 16, 2015 by spaceBrezel

[skepticon]

I have stopped using them because i don't want to accidentally stage my whole front...

well, those zeppelins were known to spontaneously combust from time to time

[redivh]

Great Zeppelin! Is there a download link for it?

[JokingHinge]

link?

Also, it would be nice if you could abuse the aerodynamics to make it hover(a really high amount of drag?).

[Aanker]

I'm starting to think someone should make a zeppelin challenge... Rate them by no. of planes carried, mass etc.

[SHiftER2O]

Zeppelins! :D A new era of aircraft production is born

[spaceBrezel]

Great Zeppelin! Is there a download link for it?

updated version with biplane: http://kerbalx.com/spaceBrezel/Zeppelin-Valkyrie-biplane

link?

Also, it would be nice if you could abuse the aerodynamics to make it hover(a really high amount of drag?).

http://kerbalx.com/spaceBrezel/Zeppelin-Valkyrie-biplane

Well it does hover if you can find the correct thrust values.

[JokingHinge]

bump

5char

[Goodle...]

Quick! hide the lifting engines before anyone finds them!

[spaceBrezel]

Quick! hide the lifting engines before anyone finds them!

These aren't the engines you're looking for! *jedi mind trick*

I will release an updated version soon.

click to enlarge

17x symmetry makes it more streamlined

251 Parts (~80 struts )

108.1 t

Length 38.5 m

Height: 13.5 m

Way faster and more agile than my Valkyrie.

[pTrevTrevs]

Aw yeah, A biplane! Now I can repeatedly say this to myself when launching it:

[SHiftER2O]

These aren't the engines you're looking for! *jedi mind trick*

I will release an updated version soon.

http://i.imgur.com/uphwlAe.jpg

click to enlarge

17x symmetry makes it more streamlined

251 Parts (~80 struts )

108.1 t

Length 38.5 m

Height: 13.5 m

Way faster and more agile than my Valkyrie.

How do you get those renders?

[spaceBrezel]

How do you get those renders?

Its a mod called KVV: http://www.curse.com/ksp-mods/kerbal/224287-kronal-vessel-viewer-kvv-exploded-ship-view

Works with 1.02 but runs out of memory fast when taking screenshots, so your game will probably crash sometimes when using it.

I started developing a space zeppelin:

Its a small space station. With lots of space instead of fuel.

launcher with 28 boosters for more safety

Edited May 20, 2015 by spaceBrezel
space zeppelin

[SAI Peregrinus]

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/53961

Obviously not stock, but if you'd somehow not seen it it's a mod you'll probably enjoy.

[0111narwhalz]

How about consulting the dark gods for a kraken drive? That'll keep you at altitude indefinitely. Although, if you take it to orbit again, you will just go rocketing off at twenty-odd gees, depending upon which drive you use.

[DMSP]

Could you make one with a gondola? Maybe Mk16 Passenger Cabins?

I have always been fascinated by Zeppelins and when I saw these I jumped at them.

Wonderful to fly!

[SHiftER2O]

Its a mod called KVV: http://www.curse.com/ksp-mods/kerbal/224287-kronal-vessel-viewer-kvv-exploded-ship-view

Works with 1.02 but runs out of memory fast when taking screenshots, so your game will probably crash sometimes when using it.

I started developing a space zeppelin:

http://i.imgur.com/qX8QeAV.gif

Its a small space station. With lots of space instead of fuel.

http://i.imgur.com/qX4shrE.jpg

launcher with 28 boosters for more safety

http://i.imgur.com/MaFH5oH.jpg

A SPACE Zeppelin? A SPACE ZEPPELIN?????