Eve landing and return in 1.0

[Tiaga]

500 dv is quite a bit... I'd think with the droguq already deployed, that some standard chutes could save you another few hundred m/s.

Then you can use that for the ascent.

Again, why didn't your "base"/"launch platform" use its remaining fuel to get a biit of a start for the ascent craft?

The nose cones may not help landing... but you had to lift them up from kerbin, where they would be useful (and you can't fit that thing in an aeroshell)

There wasn't much fuel left in the landing section of the ship when I took off (maybe 100 D/V?). I ditched it immediately just to make it easier to get pointed in the correct direction. Also I knew I would have plenty of D/V to get into orbit. If you look at the ascent pics there is one where my rocket is pointing the wrong way because it flipped over and I still made it to orbit.

And with the nosecones for liftoff at Kerbin. I really don't think drag is much of a consideration once a rocket reaches that size since the rocket was pretty much a pancake at that point, but they could've helped a little (and probably looked cooler).

Definitely not a perfect rocket, but it worked

[selfish_meme]

There wasn't much fuel left in the landing section of the ship when I took off (maybe 100 D/V?). I ditched it immediately just to make it easier to get pointed in the correct direction. Also I knew I would have plenty of D/V to get into orbit. If you look at the ascent pics there is one where my rocket is pointing the wrong way because it flipped over and I still made it to orbit.

And with the nosecones for liftoff at Kerbin. I really don't think drag is much of a consideration once a rocket reaches that size since the rocket was pretty much a pancake at that point, but they could've helped a little (and probably looked cooler).

Definitely not a perfect rocket, but it worked

That's right it is an achievement of itself. I don't think people are nitpicking just figuring out how they could do it too.

[selfish_meme]

The Bare Minimum - Eve Lander and Eve Return Vehicle, Air Brake and Parachute Landing. Can make it back to 100km orbit as long as your piloting skills are up to snuff, it's not easy getting up from Eve. Basically straight up for 30km then start looking for your orbit angle. About 124t full, easily launchable from kerbin with an edit: Interplanetary stage. Drill, ISRU and panels if you want to send it empty and spend weeks filling the tanks.

Edited May 28, 2015 by selfish_meme

[TheHolyChicken]

Why do these landers have *HUGE* wheels on the bottom? Are these landers mobile or....?

[martinborgen]

Why do these landers have *HUGE* wheels on the bottom? Are these landers mobile or....?

There are no huge landing legs.

[kurja]

The Bare Minimum - Eve Lander and Eve Return Vehicle, Air Brake and Parachute Landing. Can make it back to 100km orbit as long as your piloting skills are up to snuff, it's not easy getting up from Eve. Basically straight up for 30km then start looking for your orbit angle. About 124t full, easily launchable from kerbin with an interstellar stage. Drill, ISRU and panels if you want to send it empty and spend weeks filling the tanks.

http://i.imgur.com/SkJ0m4W.png

Interstellar?

Can you simply drop something like that off low Eve orbit, it will survive the entry into the atmosphere intact?

[The Destroyer]

A little PSA: if you are going to try using a command seat to get into orbit (like I saw on some older landers), DON'T. Kerbals have the heat resistance of... paper.

[selfish_meme]

Why do these landers have *HUGE* wheels on the bottom? Are these landers mobile or....?

You can use lander legs but you will need a lot more and spread out. That makes it difficult to fairing, looks like a huge sperm.

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Can you simply drop something like that off low Eve orbit, it will survive the entry into the atmosphere intact?

Yep I have tested the atmospheric entry, open the airbrakes before you hit atmosphere, it gets toasty but nothing explodes.

[Tiaga]

The Bare Minimum - Eve Lander and Eve Return Vehicle, Air Brake and Parachute Landing. Can make it back to 100km orbit as long as your piloting skills are up to snuff, it's not easy getting up from Eve. Basically straight up for 30km then start looking for your orbit angle. About 124t full, easily launchable from kerbin with an edit: Interplanetary stage. Drill, ISRU and panels if you want to send it empty and spend weeks filling the tanks.

http://i.imgur.com/SkJ0m4W.png

Looks good! Did you mount the air brakes on backwards? Doesn't matter I don't think. Makes it unique anyways.

If you want to make it a little more efficient I think you could put the parachutes and air brakes on octagonal struts and then put the struts on some radial decouplers. Will help with the weight and drag. Although I'm not sure if an expended decoupler still adds drag? Testing is needed.

Is that a pod on the very bottom of the craft so you don't have to have any ladders? That was my biggest mistake. I didn't know you could transfer kerbals between pods so I had ladders that would explode during descent.

It seems like the new aero forces everyone into the same type of design. In .90 (see the Eve Rocks Challenge) every ship was different. My first try at taking off from eve was an old style pancake ship and it did work so its not impossible, just not very efficient. I hope people post some more different styles of ships.

Also I want to see someone do the Jebediah level of the Eve Rocks Challenge in 1.0...

Edited May 30, 2015 by Tiaga