[WIP] [1.1.2] DIRECT - Super-Heavy Launchers - REVAMP RELEASE

[nalfz]

What's your source for the Jupiter-III? I can only find a few relatively low-resolution images of it and no information

It's absolutely ludicrous and I love it

[Mecripp]

Have you seen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_%28rocket_family%29

and

EDIT-

Edited July 31, 2015 by Mecripp2

[SmallFatFetus]

I believe those are Jupiter 2s. nalfz is asking about the even bigger Jupiter 3.

[Mecripp]

I believe those are Jupiter 2s. nalfz is asking about the even bigger Jupiter 3.

Here let me post this one and, I did post a link to the wiki

EDIT- And the Jupiter III- X http://www.murc.ws/showthread.php?59383-Jupiter-I-III-heavy-launcher

EDIT-

Edited July 31, 2015 by Mecripp2

[Captain Sierra]

"Yo dawg, I heard you like boosters ... so we put boosters on your boosters."

That is ... big, very big. Exactly what goes in the fairing in terms of payload and how much is it gonna weigh to necessitate that launcher?

[SmallFatFetus]

Exactly what goes in the fairing in terms of payload and how much is it gonna weigh to necessitate that launcher?

Pretty much that. Apologies for the empty quoting.

[Wahgineer]

You could make the jupiter III 6.25 meters, which is the next size up from 5 meters.

[merkmuds]

Will this have RSS/RO support?

[JoseEduardo]

DUUUUUUUUUUUDE

I have been waiting for a Jupiter launcher mod since I found out about it! Definitely subbing for this!

Btw, you said you wanted it massive... may I suggest a scale similar to Chaka Monkey, which is 75%? The core stage would be 6.3 in diameter and the orion pod 3.75, keeping it all in scale

[billbobjebkirk]

Jupiter V:

[nalfz]

Jupiter V:

http://orbithangar.com/addonpics/Jupiter%20V-X.jpg

http://www.aovi93.dsl.pipex.com/my_addons/Compilation724.jpg

Oh now that is just obscene

[Shad0wCatcher]

If you're talking CryoEngines-based densities they're really REALLY lean. (more than 10:1 LH2/LOx as compared to 6.03:1 for the SSME). Also from what I've been reading stock fuels (as opposed to being dense to the point of a MethaLOx back in 0.23 / 0.25 are now more akin to storables like MMH/NTO) so I'm not sure how accurate you're going to get using stock or CryoEngines since Oxidizer is so far off compared to LOx.

[benjee10]

Pretty much that. Apologies for the empty quoting.

As I said before the main payload will be the centrifuge and parts of the transfer vehicle, as well as sending a bunch of habitats directly to any planet you want pretty well. But you would likely be able to launch any of the parts (maybe except for the centrifuge purely due to its size) on smaller rockets. The rocket design is cool and I want to see it in KSP. If it doesn't work out right it doesn't work out right and I'll make it a separate part of the mod. The main focus is on the smaller LVs to begin with anyway.

DUUUUUUUUUUUDE

I have been waiting for a Jupiter launcher mod since I found out about it! Definitely subbing for this!

Btw, you said you wanted it massive... may I suggest a scale similar to Chaka Monkey, which is 75%? The core stage would be 6.3 in diameter and the orion pod 3.75, keeping it all in scale

I think I'm going to stick with 5m and 7m cores since those are standard sizes (KW and Behemoth Aerospace already use them) just to keep stuff compatible

Jupiter V:

http://orbithangar.com/addonpics/Jupiter%20V-X.jpg

http://www.aovi93.dsl.pipex.com/my_addons/Compilation724.jpg

SWEET JESUS

Is that launching an entire Copernicus MTV in one go?!

If you're talking CryoEngines-based densities they're really REALLY lean. (more than 10:1 LH2/LOx as compared to 6.03:1 for the SSME). Also from what I've been reading stock fuels (as opposed to being dense to the point of a MethaLOx back in 0.23 / 0.25 are now more akin to storables like MMH/NTO) so I'm not sure how accurate you're going to get using stock or CryoEngines since Oxidizer is so far off compared to LOx.

I think it's more about getting something that's balanced rather than accurate or realistic with this sort of scale of launcher for stock. I'll probably do an RSS/RO config once it's all done (though I don't usually play with them)

You want a big rocket to be powerful but not be able to deliver a Saturn V to Eeloo. We'll see how that goes...

[Kibble]

I'll probably do an RSS/RO config once it's all done

<3

I always wanted DIRECT, and your models are very pretty!

[billbobjebkirk]

SWEET JESUS

Is that launching an entire Copernicus MTV in one go?!

IIRC, that's the job of Jupiter III.

[Yukon0009]

Ooh yes how did I miss this, another great mod by benjee

[Nertea]

Don't listen to the haters, benjee, go big or go home!

Very promising looking models so far, will of course be watching.

[SmallFatFetus]

jupiter v:

http://orbithangar.com/addonpics/jupiter%20v-x.jpg

http://www.aovi93.dsl.pipex.com/my_addons/compilation724.jpg

HAS SCIENCE GONE TOO FAR?

Go with whatever tank size you want. Not my place to micromanage your mod.

Edited August 1, 2015 by SmallFatFetus

[JoseEduardo]

I think I'm going to stick with 5m and 7m cores since those are standard sizes (KW and Behemoth Aerospace already use them) just to keep stuff compatible

No problem, can count on me to download it

but I will definitively make a MM patch to scale it up

deliver a Saturn V to Eeloo

hmmm......

[kaue4arp10]

Haven't read the whole thread, but why don't you base your Duna Infraestructure on the one from The Martian, the movie will come out in a few months and the book describes a pressurized dome + 2 rovers and some other things...

[riocrokite]

Cool stuff, I wholeheartedly support what Nertea said

[Sylandro]

Jupiter V:

http://orbithangar.com/addonpics/Jupiter%20V-X.jpg

http://www.aovi93.dsl.pipex.com/my_addons/Compilation724.jpg

That is so Kerbal.

I love it.

[schoff123]

This... this has to happen. I was unaware of the DIRECT studies until this thread, i will definitely be watching this!

[Motokid600]

If you can't find a good reason to use 7.5m launch vehicles then you need to step up your game.

Try a manned land and return on one of the OPM planets with TAC life support. Even that Jupiter V wouldn't be enough to do it in one launch.

I'm currently doing just that. I'm working with a Chaka 6.5m ejection stage with 9km/s Dv. Then a 7.5 FASA Nova sustainer stage and 6x Chaka SLS SRBs to put that in orbit.

And that's just for the surface habitation module the kerbals need to stay in until the return window. I've yet to even begin construction of the ship that will carry the crew to and from.

I could put these parts to work immediately.

Edited August 14, 2015 by Motokid600

[_Augustus_]

Jupiter V:

http://orbithangar.com/addonpics/Jupiter%20V-X.jpg

http://www.aovi93.dsl.pipex.com/my_addons/Compilation724.jpg

Freedom.