How do you fly your planes / land your landers???

[steve_v]

...putting ALL the buttons on the stick and throttle. (can't be done in KSP) So the pilot never has to move his hands.

My point exactly.

[Brainlord Mesomorph]

NASA doesn't do HOTAS. Spaceships have more buttons than airplanes.

[Dafni]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I tried an USB2 port and got the same results. Un- and replugged the keyboard and mouse too, tried all combinations, and different keyboard, mouse, stick, computer too.

I begin to get the feeling it must be some stupid user error. Why would the buttons work but not the axis?? When I hit the grey big buttons in the settings/input menu I can move my joystick all ways and nothing would happen. So weird. When I open the calibrating window of the stick itself it sees all movement and is perfectly calibrated out of the box. And when I use the sticks for other games I can set them up without issues.

Feels like I'm missing something, some box to tick somewhere or something. I looked everywhere, did everything that was suggested in the joystick issue thread. Always the same. Think I will have to give it a rest and come back after we get another KSP patch.

Many thanks to all who contributed and tried to help. I appreciate your effort

Daf

[moogoob]

Xbox 360 controller. Works just fine.

[The_Rocketeer]

This might be crazy-talk, but have u tried it while running KSP as Administrator? I feel your frustration, in my own experience plug-and-play is often a lie.

[SAI Peregrinus]

Well, technically I believe the acronym refers to the IRL air force policy of putting ALL the buttons on the stick and throttle. (can't be done in KSP) So the pilot never has to move his hands. In PC gaming it refers to just having A SEPARATE THROTTLE at all.

Actually it's only the buttons needed for combat operations that are on throttle and stick. Things like the ILS toggles are still elsewhere, as are the MFD controls (on newer planes those are sometimes touchscreens), and similar things you won't need to get to quickly in the middle of a fight.

[Dafni]

This might be crazy-talk, but have u tried it while running KSP as Administrator? I feel your frustration, in my own experience plug-and-play is often a lie.

ya, tried that one too.

just installed the game on an older laptop with Win7ultimate, got the same result

[Skorpychan]

Of course, the ultimate answer to 'how do I fly planes and land landers' is 'badly'.