Parallel Universes / Time Loops in KSP

[Clear Air Turbulence]

I've just had an odd experience.

I was on Minmus, trying to rescue three Kerbals who had got themselves stranded there.

I had done lots of quicksaves on the way.

At one point, Jebediah, bless his soul, was trying to use his jetpack to get into the lander. But jetpack stuck on on, and before he could get it de-activated, he had escaped Minmus and was orbiting Kerbin. So it goes.

Then, in the process of boarding the other two Kerbals and taking off, did something wrong, activated quicksave... and loaded the wrong version of the game. Instead of going back to the point just before take-off from Minmus, I went all the way in time to a much earlier moment when I was orbiting Kerbin, getting ready for ye Hohmann transfer.

After I had stopped kicking myself, I planned to re-do the whole &*$ excercise... only to note that Jebediah was still in orbit around Kerbin. ...? In this time line, this had not even happened yet.

Is this a bug, or a feature?

And, can Valentina Kerbin go back and murder her own grandmother?

[mrclucks]

Has to be a bug. You probably still have a jeb in the capsule waiting to go to minmus. The jeb that is in a seperate orbit around kerbin has slipped through reality

[Mister Kerman]

I've had F9 load really old quick saves before, when I know for a fact there were multiple F5's after the unintentionally loaded quicksave.

No wormhole Jebediah's though...

[Frozen_Heart]

Wait so do you have two jebs? One in the spacecraft, one in orbit?

If so don't let them touch. If a Jeb and an Anti Jeb collide they annihilate, leaving no jebs at all.

[boxman]

Sure you did not accidentally make custom quick save or something with alt+f5?

Even if not you might want to hit alt+f9 to see if that other save is there.

[moogoob]

Maybe you had too much power flowing through the flux capacitor?

[FlyingPete]

You should launch a mission to go and capture parallel Jeb (the one in orbit) in a cargo bay and bring him back to Kerbin for study

[ThatGuyWithALongUsername]

Is there a signal of some kind coming out of the KSC monolith?

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/132753-Plan-Kappa-A-graphic-novel-about-a-doomed-space-program-%28Chapter-14-is-here%21%29

[Tourist]

One way or another, we know how this ends.

Imposter Jeb steps off the final rung of the ladder and steps off onto the tarmac. Just then, an identical Jeb charges from the administration building leading Val and some KSC security.

"Arrest the impostor" says Jeb. The impostor Jeb pulls a pistol from his flight suit and takes aim at the guards. He fires two shots, killing the guards. He is lining up a shot on Val, but Jeb grabs the impostor and a fight ensues.

In the tussle, the pistol flies free. Val runs to pick up the firearm, but it has become entangled with some tumble weed and she fumbles it.

In the meanwhile one Jeb has a hold of the other from behind and is slowly squeezing the life from his identical rival. Finally Val takes hold of a the pistol and takes aim at the Jebs.

The Jebs have separated, but like a deadly game of shells... it is not clear which is which.

"Shoot him!!" said the Jeb.

"No, Val its him, shoot, shoot!!" yelled the other.

Val, stares at the two, but cannot tell the real from the fake. She takes a deep breath, her eyes narrow and she squeezes the trigger.

Jeb lets out a relieved sigh, and says "thanks Val. How did you know?"

Val blows the smoky discharge from the muzzle, straightens her hair, and winks "I didn't. But the chance of survival was only fifty fifty. You've survived much worse odds than that."

Edited September 23, 2015 by Tourist

[Clear Air Turbulence]

It is time to report back.

A user called Clear Air Turbulence tried to take the new craft "Upgoer 3.1" into subMinmusan orbit to rescue the heroic Jebediah Kerman, who had manifested there after an accident involving a misfiring quicksave in a parallel Universe.

Signs that all was not well were already manifest when he tried to create the first maneuver node.

As the projected orbital trajectory was plotted, strange wisps of steam appeared, not on the orbital map but above the screen of the computer itself on which the simulation was being run.

Disregarding these signs, CAT embarked on an orbital rendezvous.

As the craft neared the SOI of the orbiting Kerbal ...

-- he had an SOI?

it became clear that what we were approaching was not a spaceman but a tiny black hole.A

A black hole not in the representation of the Kerbal Universe but in the matrix of the game software itself.

In a matter of seconds the craft was sucked into the black hole... followed by the material of the screen itself... shortly afterwards the user Clear air turbulence was seized by the powerful space time vortex and removed from his living room.

And it did not end there...

In situation this, the event horizon of the inversion propagates itself through the surrounding space time at the speed of light.

The shockwave of that event horizon thus appears without warning.

When a particular space time continuum has completely turned itself inside out, no trace remains of the original time line.

All appears normal as before. There is no sign that the observer and everything around her or him has been sucked away and replaced by the parallel universe

Well, almost no sign...

[The_Rocketeer]

This is ceasing to be in the right forum... but I approve.

Jeb in free orbit has produced some very peculiar effects in my game, including spontaneous craft destruction, wobbly orbit trajectories, and instant FTL acceleration. I explain this thusly:

It's my belief that as an intergalactic superstar, Jeb is the Kraken's favourite plaything. While in a spacecraft his life-force is muffled and he is indistinct from other Kerbals, and so the Kraken is only able to positively identify him when he makes an EVA. If the Kraken should then glance in his direction...

[AbacusWizard]

My guess: transporter malfunction.

What? They've gotta have transporters; how else could they move between two command pods connected only by girders?

[The_Rocketeer]

They've gotta have transporters; how else could they move between two command pods connected only by girders?

Nah, they're just really really fast sometimes. This actually also explains Jeb - he's not really in 2 places, he just moves between them faster than you can see.

[GarrisonChisholm]

It is time to report back.

A user called Clear Air Turbulence tried to take the new craft "Upgoer 3.1" into subMinmusan orbit to rescue the heroic Jebediah Kerman, who had manifested there after an accident involving a misfiring quicksave in a parallel Universe.

Signs that all was not well were already manifest when he tried to create the first maneuver node.

As the projected orbital trajectory was plotted, strange wisps of steam appeared, not on the orbital map but above the screen of the computer itself on which the simulation was being run.

Disregarding these signs, CAT embarked on an orbital rendezvous.

As the craft neared the SOI of the orbiting Kerbal ...

-- he had an SOI?

it became clear that what we were approaching was not a spaceman but a tiny black hole.A

A black hole not in the representation of the Kerbal Universe but in the matrix of the game software itself.

In a matter of seconds the craft was sucked into the black hole... followed by the material of the screen itself... shortly afterwards the user Clear air turbulence was seized by the powerful space time vortex and removed from his living room.

And it did not end there...

In situation this, the event horizon of the inversion propagates itself through the surrounding space time at the speed of light.

The shockwave of that event horizon thus appears without warning.

When a particular space time continuum has completely turned itself inside out, no trace remains of the original time line.

All appears normal as before. There is no sign that the observer and everything around her or him has been sucked away and replaced by the parallel universe

Well, almost no sign...

*twilight zone music* ...trippy...

[AbacusWizard]

Nah, they're just really really fast sometimes. This actually also explains Jeb - he's not really in 2 places, he just moves between them faster than you can see.

We know that tourists cannot go on EVA.

We know that tourists can be Transferred from seat to seat.

Therefore, Transfers must be entirely internal.

I posit that kerbals have developed some sort of teleportation, but it requires physical contact between source and destination.