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3 hours ago, JW2016 said:

NASA is NOT making a warp drive in any way shape or form, please.....

they have however released pictures of a warp drive spacecraft and have researched warp drives.

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3 hours ago, CreativeCombat said:

What is this? 

What is this doing in the challenge thread? 

What does this have anything to do with anything. 

 

Challenge is: Download parts, build rockets to send them orbit, assembly them by docking? What is unclear?

7 hours ago, JW2016 said:

NASA is NOT making a warp drive in any way shape or form, please.....

300614_warpDrive_1.jpg?itok=c6-AkSeg

just random story...

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Weirdly, I actually tried this (kind of) challenge for a bit before becoming frustrated.  The high part count and excessive clipping make this an exercise in maddening futile lag, and docking is about 2 FPS as soon as more than one part is in physics range.  Finally, in a fit of pique, I launched the whole thing as a unit, but the modules (however stylish) are poorly constructed and dissassemble immediately.  If you want to show off a ship design, post it in ships or crafts thread - this isn't really a challenge as such, unless you are trying to figure out who has a better CPU.  I would say this album sums it up.

 

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10 hours ago, samsunix said:

That is what you call a concept art, and the article is from what you call an unreliable source as it isn't academic and it isn't NASA.gov. It's commercial website that is interested in click baits for people who have no idea how real science works.

 

14 hours ago, SR said:

they have however released pictures of a warp drive spacecraft and have researched warp drives.

No they have not. 

http://qr.ae/RUgCR2

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4 minutes ago, JW2016 said:

YouTube is not a reliable source, it is also a commercial source where people just want you to watch their ads, and will not hesitate to hype random things completely out of proportion to get the attention.

Well your article says they researched

"warp field interferometer that can measure spacetime disturbances"

surely this is the start of research into a warp drive

with the challenge do they have to be docked, they have a ridiculous number of parts.

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9 minutes ago, SR said:

Well your article says they researched

"warp field interferometer that can measure spacetime disturbances"

surely this is the start of research into a warp drive

with the challenge do they have to be docked, they have a ridiculous number of parts.

And he also made it clear that an interferometer is not a warp drive, it's a sensor. Did I mention it's just a paper being written and that's it? Like how people publish paper on 200-dimension super string theory and infinite parallel universes? As in, most of those turn out to be completely theoretical and/or wrong.

And it doesn't start research into anything because there is no evidence what so ever that a warp drive of any kind is possible even in principle, nobody would fund this.

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8 minutes ago, JW2016 said:

And he also made it clear that an interferometer is not a warp drive, it's a sensor. Did I mention it's just a paper being written and that's it? 

And it doesn't start research into anything because there is no evidence what so ever that a warp drive of any kind is possible even in principle, nobody would fund this.

There is evidence, and a lot of theoretical research has been done, and warp fields have been created and measured.

and what he actually said is

"APPL is tasked with examining theoretical propulsion technologies to see which ones could be brought to practical use in the near future, as NASA examines its options for outer solar system exploration.  They are looking at the physics behind a lot of ideas - that doesn't mean they are building engines."

While they are not building engines they are researching the possibility of them.

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11 minutes ago, SR said:

There is evidence, and a lot of theoretical research has been done, and warp fields have been created and measured.

and what he actually said is

"APPL is tasked with examining theoretical propulsion technologies to see which ones could be brought to practical use in the near future, as NASA examines its options for outer solar system exploration.  They are looking at the physics behind a lot of ideas - that doesn't mean they are building engines."

While they are not building engines they are researching the possibility of them, not building a warp drive.

No there isn't, because your statement is simply unsupported, you didn't show any evidence and you won't be able to because there is none. There is also no such thing as warp field, warp drives are supposed to distort space time.

They are researching the possibility as in they are doing the math, like how people are also doing the math on other most likely impossible things because it's very cheap to do. But just because you did your math does not mean it is possible in any way.

Also that's exactly what I said in the beginning, they're not building a warp drive in any way shape or form. There is no such thing as a "NASA warp drive".

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/technology/warp/warp.html

If you did the slightest bit of actual research, instead of reading those idiotic hype click baits, you would've seen NASA's official statement on warp drives:

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“Warp Drive” or any other term for faster-than-light travel still remains at the level of speculation. 

The bulk of scientific knowledge concludes that it’s impossible, especially when considering Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.

-NASA

 

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1 minute ago, JW2016 said:

 

They are researching the possibility as in they are doing the math, like how people are also doing the math, on warp drives and other things. But just because you did your math does not mean it is possible in any way.

Doing the maths and researching the probability are kind of the same thing

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1 minute ago, SR said:

Doing the maths and researching the probability are kind of the same thing

No it's not the same thing, research can include doing the math as in "theoretical research". It usually suggests more practical research like building a prototype VASMIR ion engine and testing it in a laboratory.

it is important to emphasize that warp drives is strictly at the extreme preliminary theoretical stage and most likely totally impossible. It is not in any way like "research" into real technology like quantum computers, solar sails and fusion reactors.

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9 hours ago, JW2016 said:

it is important to emphasize that warp drives is strictly at the extreme preliminary theoretical stage and most likely totally impossible. It is not in any way like "research" into real technology like quantum computers, solar sails and fusion reactors.

I agree it is entirely theoretical research, but it is still research. research is technically:

"the systematic investigation into and study of materials and sources in order to establish facts and reach new conclusions"

It was an investigation.

It was probablyy systematic

And it was to establish facts and reach a conclusion over whether warp drives are possible.

So it is research.

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