What will life be like on colonies in the solar system.

[Robotengineer]

I've looked through your website and it is interesting, though I doubt we would colonize all the planets in such a short time span. I also found it a bit dystopian and dark. On the timescale issue, assuming Musk runs on Musk time, SpaceX will start landing humans on Mars in the late 2020's to early 2030's, with gradual buildup in population and technology, with an eventual Martian population of a million by the turn of the century. Simultaneously, asteroid resource development will accelerate, and we should be able to build free-floating colonies by the end of the century. Ceres, the Jovian's, and Martian terraforming would be the next century, with the latter taking many centuries. All of this is IMO of course. 

[daniel l.]

37 minutes ago, Robotengineer said:

I've looked through your website and it is interesting, though I doubt we would colonize all the planets in such a short time span. I also found it a bit dystopian and dark. On the timescale issue, assuming Musk runs on Musk time, SpaceX will start landing humans on Mars in the late 2020's to early 2030's, with gradual buildup in population and technology, with an eventual Martian population of a million by the turn of the century. Simultaneously, asteroid resource development will accelerate, and we should be able to build free-floating colonies by the end of the century. Ceres, the Jovian's, and Martian terraforming would be the next century, with the latter taking many centuries. All of this is IMO of course. 

One of the reasons why so many worlds are settled is because most of them have no original 'Settlers' Seeder ships were used instead, Basically Cassini sized craft filled with thousands of frozen embryos and maturation tech, With robots to raise them, The result being that a sizable colony on each world could be produced and then copied, This would also provide a meaningful solution to the issue of abortion as embryos could be removed and put in storage, Then shipped off to the other Colonies. Martian terraforming has not yet been completed either, The CO2 atmosphere has been thickened, With nitrogen added in, Just enough for plants to survive, Martian citizens use a throat implant that filters the air, Allowing O2 through and disposing of the carbon.

[ProtoJeb21]

I would imagine colonies on Enceladus to be located near the equator. This way, the cryovolcanoes are well out of harms way, but the scientists are still near them to do observations. The habitats on an Enceladus colony would be wide domes held onto the ice by multiple poles stuck deep into the moon's crust. Metal tiles would have to be put over the ice inside the habitats and buildings to prevent contamination of the ice by SCIENCE! or other "threats". There will probably be more of these tiles making wide and long pathways around the colony site. Those tiles would be used to keep the vehicles and colonists firmly planted down on the moon, since their boots and wheels will have magnets inside them. 

The SCIENCE! modules would have experiments relating to the chemicals in the ice or any life forms that have been captured. Habitat modules will have to be shared by up to 10 colonists at a time. Their beds will come with internal heaters to prevent hypothermia and external straps to keep the colonists from floating off. The straps will be less restricting than those on the ISS because there is actually gravity on Enceladus. The habitation modules will have many more heaters, along with a generator that takes ice from the moon's crust and turns it into liquid water, oxygen, and energy. Most of the living appliances, such as tables, storage units, ovens, and more will be located near here so that the generator can help power them. With things like couches, they will also be near the "Habitat Hub" for warmth and easy access to food, water, and oxygen.

About 85% of the colony will be scientists and researchers, while the remaining 15% will be specially chosen people to have a human presence on Enceladus. Scientist or not, everyone will have to help keeping the colony alive. There will be 5 different jobs for colonists: hardware/habitat repair, supply managing, transmissions with Mission Control, resource "hunting", and crew checks. The background and/or skills of the colonists will determine which jobs they will be assigned. For example, if a colonist had past experiences as a psychologist or doctor, then s/he will do crew checks to make sure the colonists are well enough to continue living on Enceladus. Each occupation will have a different schedule that will adjust to their other schedules, if they are scientists or researchers.

Life on an Enceladan colony will have similar functions as colonies on other planets, but the structure of the colony will have to fit the conditions on this tiny moon. The types of occupations and research done here will also be different than on a world like Mars, Luna, or Ceres. A colony on Enceladus will be very similar to a Europan colony, with some slight modifications.

(Also, 555 posts!)

[daniel l.]

2 hours ago, ProtoJeb21 said:

A colony on Enceladus will be very similar to a Europan colony, with some slight modifications.

Quite major modifications actually. Europa has some gravity, While Enceladus has nearly none, Also the deadly radiation at Europa would make a surface Colony impossible on Europa. Sorry if im being a know it all....

[ProtoJeb21]

15 hours ago, daniel l. said:

Quite major modifications actually. Europa has some gravity, While Enceladus has nearly none, Also the deadly radiation at Europa would make a surface Colony impossible on Europa. Sorry if im being a know it all....

I forgot about the radiation on Europa. However, both colonies will have to deal with similar conditions: chilling cold, thin atmospheres, low gravity, and icy crusts.

[Bill Phil]

19 hours ago, daniel l. said:

Quite major modifications actually. Europa has some gravity, While Enceladus has nearly none, Also the deadly radiation at Europa would make a surface Colony impossible on Europa. Sorry if im being a know it all....

Easy solution for Gravity:

Centrifugal cities with the outward surface pointed in a direction that makes the experienced gravity similar to Earth's... Using acceleration vectors you can find the exact angles needed. 

If you can't make the entire city spin, then maybe some of the buildings could...? Idk. It fixes the gravity problem... To an extent.

[LordOfMinecraft99]

When will the Origins section start?

[daniel l.]

43 minutes ago, LordOfMinecraft99 said:

When will the Origins section start?

In a while. I'm trying to spread out content over the course of the year.

[Emperor of the Titan Squid]

On 6/26/2016 at 0:19 AM, Robotengineer said:

I've looked through your website and it is interesting, though I doubt we would colonize all the planets in such a short time span. I also found it a bit dystopian and dark. On the timescale issue, assuming Musk runs on Musk time, SpaceX will start landing humans on Mars in the late 2020's to early 2030's, with gradual buildup in population and technology, with an eventual Martian population of a million by the turn of the century. Simultaneously, asteroid resource development will accelerate, and we should be able to build free-floating colonies by the end of the century. Ceres, the Jovian's, and Martian terraforming would be the next century, with the latter taking many centuries. All of this is IMO of course. 

It wouldn't be as hard with fusion propulsion.

[Robotengineer]

2 hours ago, Emperor of the Titan Squid said:

It wouldn't be as hard with fusion propulsion.

But that is a long ways out, if it comes to be at all.

[Emperor of the Titan Squid]

Problem: the PDRE takeover was in the 2060s, but "Humanity's future is looking bright" in 2078 and the UN still exists, this needs to be changed. Also, there needs to be orbital colonies. how is there a mars colony in 2024? 

Edited July 5, 2016 by Emperor of the Titan Squid

[daniel l.]

14 hours ago, Emperor of the Titan Squid said:

Problem: the PDRE takeover was in the 2060s, but "Humanity's future is looking bright" in 2078 and the UN still exists, this needs to be changed. Also, there needs to be orbital colonies. how is there a mars colony in 2024? 

those goofs will be fixed in an upcoming site update, Sorry about that, I hadnt quite given spaceception enough info i guess...

[Omegagoldfish]

Life aboard these colonies would be cramped, cold, and miserable. Food would be dehydrated protein slurry, and all non essentials wouldn't exist. Aside from gathering data or sending transmissions to Earth, there wouldn't be much to do for the first couple of years on these colonies. All the while, paranoia about equipment failure, sabotage, or natural disaster would prevent anyone from truly relaxing.

 

On the upside, the view would be great.

[daniel l.]

1 hour ago, Omegagoldfish said:

Life aboard these colonies would be cramped, cold, and miserable. Food would be dehydrated protein slurry, and all non essentials wouldn't exist. Aside from gathering data or sending transmissions to Earth, there wouldn't be much to do for the first couple of years on these colonies. All the while, paranoia about equipment failure, sabotage, or natural disaster would prevent anyone from truly relaxing.

 

On the upside, the view would be great.

Those would be the first years, But the site describes the way they are in the 2150's. Life would be much easier by then.

[Omegagoldfish]

6 hours ago, daniel l. said:

Those would be the first years, But the site describes the way they are in the 2150's. Life would be much easier by then.

That's why I said for the first couple of years. Later, it would be like a somewhat expensive hotel. The food would be decent, gravity would be stable, and there'd be enough stuff to do to stay for a long time. Again, the view would still be great.

[Beowolf]

Hadn't been in this subforum for a while, so just now saw this thread. I clicked on your link, got as far as Luna, and closed the tab.

I see others have already complained about the economic infeasibility of combining a high-tech civilization with slavery. IMO, you should listen to them.

Good luck with the writing!

[SyzygyΣE]

I'd like to imagine myself sitting in a spacesuit on the surface of Io, gazing over its rolling volcanic mountains and the lava flows erupting kilometres into the air, not to mention the almighty Jupiter looming in the distance.

But by then I would have received a lethal dose of radiation.

In all seriousness though, to establish a colony anywhere in the solar system, one of the primary concerns is radiation. Io, Europa and Ganymede would have intense radiation levels so a surface base wouldn't really be a good idea. Subsurface, perhaps? Speaking of subsurface, I wonder if one can create a colony on the seafloor of Europa—if the underground sea does indeed exist. Geothermal vents would provide a source of heat, and you can also use geothermal or hydro power to generate electricity. With electricity comes greenhouses for a food supply, and I think the water can be used for electrolysis and just general consumption. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

Not exactly sure how one would actually get tens of kilometres under the crust without receiving a lethal dose of radiation, but hey, we're just generating ideas. 

Beautiful, yet gently terrifying

Edited July 8, 2016 by SyzygyΣE

[daniel l.]

13 hours ago, Beowolf said:

Hadn't been in this subforum for a while, so just now saw this thread. I clicked on your link, got as far as Luna, and closed the tab.

I see others have already complained about the economic infeasibility of combining a high-tech civilization with slavery. IMO, you should listen to them.

Good luck with the writing!

Terran technology is far behind other colonies, due to a systemwide embargo. They dont really have much choice, in order to maintain their extremely high population without collapsing the opressive terran regime, they use slavery.

Now i would like to politely ask you to not post nonconstructive criticism toward my content. I spend hours making this stuff and if you don't like it don't read it.

[Emperor of the Titan Squid]

So what is going to happen with the saturnians and Martians?

 

[daniel l.]

2 hours ago, Emperor of the Titan Squid said:

So what is going to happen with the saturnians and Martians?

 

You'll see  once all the short stories and articles are completed I will post a finale at the end of the year.  

[Emperor of the Titan Squid]

Don't rush, but earth needs a story. Also, why is there a cease fire between Mercury and the Uranian republic?

[daniel l.]

4 hours ago, Emperor of the Titan Squid said:

Don't rush, but earth needs a story. Also, why is there a cease fire between Mercury and the Uranian republic?

A recent war. Mercury had a weak military prior to the war, and the uranians were in need of more energy and raw materials due to the lack of sunlight and rocky bodies in their system. It quickly became a stalemate as the mercurians were able to destroy the Uranian fleets using an orbital mirror to reflect the intense sunlight onto them.

[Bill Phil]

40 minutes ago, daniel l. said:

A recent war. Mercury had a weak military prior to the war, and the uranians were in need of more energy and raw materials due to the lack of sunlight and rocky bodies in their system. It quickly became a stalemate as the mercurians were able to destroy the Uranian fleets using an orbital mirror to reflect the intense sunlight onto them.

Uranus might have more resources than even the asteroid belt, since it has Trojans. There's a possibility that it has quite a few metals within them. Not only that, but energy shouldn't be a big problem, since it has lots of hydrogen. 

[Emperor of the Titan Squid]

1 hour ago, Bill Phil said:

Uranus might have more resources than even the asteroid belt, since it has Trojans. There's a possibility that it has quite a few metals within them. Not only that, but energy shouldn't be a big problem, since it has lots of hydrogen. 

I would think that the Trojans would belong to Callisto, and therefore the Saturnians.

[Robotengineer]

On July 8, 2016 at 4:23 PM, daniel l. said:

Terran technology is far behind other colonies, due to a systemwide embargo. They dont really have much choice, in order to maintain their extremely high population without collapsing the opressive terran regime, they use slavery.

They would still have robots though wouldn't they? We are on the cusp of having robots that could replace humans in a lot of the areas slavery would have been used in the past.