wumpus Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 21 hours ago, mikegarrison said: You are counting your chickens before the eggs are even laid, IMO. There has only once ever been a case where a LES was actually used. And yet, by blithely referring to "R3*R1" you are really saying, "it's OK if the rocket blows up under them, because the LES will save them". That's pretty sketchy as a safety philosophy, IMO. Another aspect to notice is that NASA's safety philosophy is largely PR based. You put the astronauts in last because to avoid having the rocket explode on you while they are sitting on top, if it blows up during fueling (regardless of how many techs are killed) it isn't such a big deal. While this made all kinds of sense when launching rockets was a cold war PR stunt, I'm not sure it is what we should be using. Space X insists on fueling the rocket *after* everyone but the astronauts are in a bunker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightfury Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Oooh , mr. Steven cams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 the stream has a view of mr steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, insert_name said: the stream has a view of mr steven AAAAAAAAA Over here I'm stuck with NASA TV... Keep me posted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumSky5 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 It looks like they are having uplink issues with Mr Steven, the "view" they showed was a low res still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 https://www.pscp.tv/w/1gqGvpydqWOxB NASA for people who can't do SpaceX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barzon Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Max-Q! Also - isn't it blurry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Lousy focus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Separation and MVac start! Fairing away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 couldnt see it, but i could hear something a while ago and again just now that felt like a sonic boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 35 minutes ago, wumpus said: Another aspect to notice is that NASA's safety philosophy is largely PR based. You put the astronauts in last because to avoid having the rocket explode on you while they are sitting on top, if it blows up during fueling (regardless of how many techs are killed) it isn't such a big deal. While this made all kinds of sense when launching rockets was a cold war PR stunt, I'm not sure it is what we should be using. Space X insists on fueling the rocket *after* everyone but the astronauts are in a bunker. This isn't the gas station. There aren't any techs standing there holding the filling nozzle as the tanks are being filled. "No one was injured": Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightfury Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Oh come on , right as the satellite got into view , they switch cams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSlash27 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 If they successfully recovered a fairing, how will we be notified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, GoSlash27 said: If they successfully recovered a fairing, how will we be notified? Good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wumpus Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: This isn't the gas station. There aren't any techs standing there holding the filling nozzle as the tanks are being filled. "No one was injured": 5 hours ago, sevenperforce said: Not while people were actively getting on board. But there have been numerous instances of rockets blowing up while fully fueled, on the pad. Numerous ground support injuries and fatalities as well. Damascus Titan, Soyuz 7K-OK No.1, Soyuz T-10a, Atlas Agena, the Brazilian VLS-3, Nedelin...there are quite a few. More people have been killed by fully-fueled rockets on the pad than have been killed in actual launch failures. Granted, these were all fairly nascent launch programs. But the precedent is there. Just because they aren't holding the nozzle, doesn't mean they aren't there. At least all the film of astronauts boarding a space ship, the ground isn't *completely* empty of people (the rocket will go up soon, so they have to leave. But for Apollo missions they might have an hour). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delay Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Live coverage wouldn't be a problem with the fairings, I guess. The only reason ASDS cameras go out for a second is because of the M1D firing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elthy Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, GoSlash27 said: If they successfully recovered a fairing, how will we be notified? I would bet on Elons Twitter account... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 The tracking sim is really cool at the pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpens Solidus Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html#public launch replays on nasa tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delay Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 10/10 Just like KSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumSky5 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I love how there are lights in the spacecraft, just so we can get beauty shots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightfury Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Was that bright spot in the back the moon ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delay Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 No, can't be the moon, unless it goes from new to full in 7 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightfury Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, Delay said: No, can't be the moon, unless it goes from new to full in 7 days. When the exposure time is too high , even a half moon apears as a whole. Would be possible if you want to see the engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delay Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Nightfury said: When the exposure time is too high You can't see any stars in the background, just the engine and that light. From that I conclude that exposure time is not very high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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