Mad Rocket Scientist Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: Are the Superdracos not installed? I believe they are, but they have covers on them. https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=47095.msg1916268#msg1916268 Edited March 2, 2019 by Mad Rocket Scientist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheif Operations Director Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, sevenperforce said: Watching the crew access arm pull away...... I would be surprised if they did not launch it in final config. I mean if they use the parachutes for the Crew then they would not need to test it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 But still, in case a RUD happens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheif Operations Director Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I think that the Draco's are shrouded due to aerodynamics because without them they could not do a Pad or In flight abort with the crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 What the flarp, NASA/SpaceX? What’s with the horrible resolution, I went to the trouble of putting this on the big screen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, Cheif Operations Director said: I mean if they use the parachutes for the Crew then they would not need to test it The final config includes a primed, operational LES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheif Operations Director Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, sevenperforce said: The final config includes a primed, operational LES. 3 minutes ago, Cheif Operations Director said: I think that the Draco's are shrouded due to aerodynamics because without them they could not do a Pad or In flight abort with the crew. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I do love the paint job on the old launch tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheif Operations Director Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, sevenperforce said: I do love the paint job on the old launch tower. The red Apollo or the grey STS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, Cheif Operations Director said: I think that the Draco's are shrouded due to aerodynamics because without them they could not do a Pad or In flight abort with the crew. Closeups make it appear that the SuperDracos are completely blocked by silver panels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheif Operations Director Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, sevenperforce said: Closeups make it appear that the SuperDracos are completely blocked by silver panels. They may not have them installed on this flight and instead have weights but it baffles me as to why, if I remember correctly the Draco's or the only engines right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, Cheif Operations Director said: They may not have them installed on this flight and instead have weights but it baffles me as to why, if I remember correctly the Draco's or the only engines right? There’s the Dracos (tiny maneuvering RCS/maneuvering thrusters) and there’s also the SuperDraco abort engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 They could have silver, plastic covers. Like tape over gun ports on WW2 aircraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Rocket Scientist Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 If you're having terrible quality or choppy audio, try the NASA stream. 30s behind, but otherwise the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Seems this ship does have SuperDracos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 It's humid in FL, it would make sense to have the Super Dracos covered. Any use blows the cover off. Best for reentry, as well, and splashdown. They'd also launch with LES since any failure would at least verify LES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, tater said: It's humid in FL, it would make sense to have the Super Dracos covered. Any use blows the cover off. Best for reentry, as well, and splashdown. They'd also launch with LES since any failure would at least verify LES. That makes sense. I guess there are covers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheif Operations Director Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, tater said: It's humid in FL, it would make sense to have the Super Dracos covered. Any use blows the cover off. Best for reentry, as well, and splashdown. They'd also launch with LES since any failure would at least verify LES. That would save them money on the next flight if their was a failure. The next flight they are intentionally blowing up the rocket in flight I think and testing the Draco's so their would be some economic benefit The Draco's are on it they just said it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Cheif Operations Director said: That would save them money on the next flight if their was a failure. The next flight they are intentionally blowing up the rocket in flight I think and testing the Draco's so their would be some economic benefit It will also presumably mitigate seawater issues after splashdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, Cheif Operations Director said: That would save them money on the next flight if their was a failure. The next flight they are intentionally blowing up the rocket in flight I think and testing the Draco's so their would be some economic benefit Definitely no savings -- this mission validates Falcon 9 Block 5 too. Not to mention docking, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheif Operations Director Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, sevenperforce said: Definitely no savings -- this mission validates Falcon 9 Block 5 too. Not to mention docking, etc. I'm saying if this rocket happens to blow up and the LES works then SpaceX does not need to waste a booster on the next launch and using the data from the explosion could make a better rocket. This is net gain if something goes wrong Just now, tater said: It will also presumably mitigate seawater issues after splashdown. The Draco's will be used during de-orbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: Definitely no savings -- this mission validates Falcon 9 Block 5 too. Not to mention docking, etc. And NASA has contracted new vehicles for all crew flights, though I suppose they might reuse them for cargo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, Cheif Operations Director said: I'm saying if this rocket happens to blow up and the LES works then SpaceX does not need to waste a booster on the next launch and using the data from the explosion could make a better rocket. This is net gain if something goes wrong They would have to redo DM-1. So no, not a gain. Just now, Cheif Operations Director said: The Draco's will be used during de-orbit Dracos yes; SuperDracos no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Cheif Operations Director said: The Draco's will be used during de-orbit The dracos, or super dracos? Dragon only has the former and it deorbits Edited March 2, 2019 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheif Operations Director Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, sevenperforce said: They would have to redo DM-1. So no, not a gain. Dracos yes; SuperDracos no. Yes but they would have the data from the failure and already verified LES meaning after DM-1 assuming success the crew may fly sooner than normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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