No refund for returning Exotic Minerals from Minmus mining

[Kazvan]

Hi,

After a great deal of effort, I set up a Kolony on Minmus.

There are 3 objectives:

• learning the ropes about kolonies in order to deploy one on Duna
• obtaining fuel
• getting additional funds from mining

Last night I finally returned a probe full of Exotic Materials gently landing in water at 30 Km from KSC.
Although the Mission Summary screen acknowledged the return of parts and  resources, I didn't get the funds for the Exotic Minerals.

Is this normal?

https://imgur.com/a/iRHY5tL

Technical info:

• KSP version 11.2 (can't upgrade to version 12 because Space Station are wobbling again as if Kerbal Joint Reinforcement - Next wouldn't work correctly).
• List of mods:

Spoiler

AmpYear (AmpYearPowerManager 1:V1.5.9.0)
AT Utils (AT-Utils v1.9.6)
BonVoyage (BonVoyage 1:1.4.0)
Breaking Ground (BreakingGround-DLC 1.7.0)
Chatterer (Chatterer 0.9.99)
ClickThrough Blocker (ClickThroughBlocker 1:0.1.10.17)
Community Category Kit (CommunityCategoryKit v5.2.0.0)
Community Resource Pack (CommunityResourcePack 1.4.2)
Configurable Containers (ConfigurableContainers 2.6.1)
Configurable Containers Core (ConfigurableContainers-Core 2.4.8.3)
Docking Port Alignment Indicator (DockingPortAlignmentIndicator 6.9.2.2)
Easy Vessel Switch (EVS) (EasyVesselSwitch 2.3)
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Firespitter Core (FirespitterCore v7.17)
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Kerbal Attachment System (KAS 1.9)
Kerbal Changelog (KerbalChangelog v1.4.2)
Kerbal Engineer Redux (KerbalEngineerRedux 1.1.9.0)
Kerbal Inventory System (KIS 1.28)
Kerbal Joint Reinforcement - Next (KerbalJointReinforcementNext v4.1.15)
Konstruction (Konstruction 1.4.0)
Making History (MakingHistory-DLC 1.12.0)
Module Manager (ModuleManager 4.1.4)
OSE Workshop Reworked (OSEWorkShopReworked 1.2.14.3)
PlanetShine (PlanetShine 0.2.6.3)
PlanetShine - Default configuration (PlanetShine-Config-Default 0.2.6.3)
Precise Maneuver (PreciseManeuver 2:2.4.4)
RemoteTech (RemoteTech v1.9.12)
REPOSoftTech-Agencies (REPOSoftTech-Agencies V1.5.9.0)
S.A.V.E (SAVE 1.10.2-3192)
scatterer (Scatterer 3:v0.0772)
Scatterer Default Config (Scatterer-config 3:v0.0772)
Scatterer Sunflare (Scatterer-sunflare 3:v0.0772)
SpaceTux Library (SpaceTuxLibrary 0.0.6)
Stock Visual Enhancements (StockVisualEnhancements 3:v1.4.1)
Stock Visual Enhancements-High Res Textures (SVE-HighResolution 3:1.0.8)
Targetron (Targetron v1.6.3)
Toolbar (Toolbar 1:1.8.0.5)
Toolbar Controller (ToolbarController 1:0.1.9.4)
Trajectories (Trajectories v2.4.1)
USI Core (USI-Core 1.4.0)
USI Kolonization Systems (MKS/OKS) (UKS 1:1.4.1)
USI Life Support (USI-LS 1.4.0)
USI Tools (USITools 1.4.0)
Zero MiniAVC (ZeroMiniAVC 1:1.1.0.1)
 

 

[jimmymcgoochie]

Do Exotic Minerals actually have value? If you fill a tank with them in the VAB/SPH does it add to the total cost of the craft?

If they do, did you get a refund for everything else in that craft as normal, or did the refunds for other things also not work properly/at all?

[Kazvan]

23 minutes ago, jimmymcgoochie said:

Do Exotic Minerals actually have value? If you fill a tank with them in the VAB/SPH does it add to the total cost of the craft?

If they do, did you get a refund for everything else in that craft as normal, or did the refunds for other things also not work properly/at all?

Yes, they have an assigned value.
If you fill a tank, it does add to the cost of the craft (and a LOT).

Regarding the last 2 questions, I noticed that I don't get a full refund even for stock parts (e.g. I launch a Mk1-3 Command Pod and I lose funds after the recovery).

[jimmymcgoochie]

@Kazvan recovery rates do decrease as the distance from the KSC increases (to simulate the costs of actually sending a vehicle of some sort out to pick it up and take it back) but it shouldn’t give negative values for stock parts.

Can you create a CKAN mod pack with all your mods in it and post that here? I can use that to try and replicate the issue.

[modus]

Looks like the stock bug that KSP recall fixes?

[Kazvan]

 

14 hours ago, modus said:

Looks like the stock bug that KSP recall fixes?

Thank you, this is the fix for the problem!

On 7/16/2021 at 5:05 PM, jimmymcgoochie said:

@Kazvan recovery rates do decrease as the distance from the KSC increases (to simulate the costs of actually sending a vehicle of some sort out to pick it up and take it back) but it shouldn’t give negative values for stock parts.

Can you create a CKAN mod pack with all your mods in it and post that here? I can use that to try and replicate the issue.

Thank you for your help.
Here it is the CKAN mod pack if you really want to replicate the issue.

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