[Solved] Suddenly, everything overheats and explodes when loading ANY vessel in interplanetary space

DerGolgo · March 30

KSP: 1.12.5 (3190); Windows 11 64 Bit, manual install (no Steam), also manually modded (no CKAN).

Problem: loading ships in interplanetary space, parts overheat and explode for no reason.
On first load, some parts overheat and explode. The temperature bars in the screenshot suggest all is overheating, but with that particular screenshot, it was only some parts that ended up exploding (though those included the giant dish), the bulk of the vessel (including root part) remained.

It completely obliterated itself on a second loading, also. Note that this has been orbiting Kerbol for over 7 game years.

This here is another vessel, illustrating what happens when I load a ship a second time. First time, only four parts went boom. 2nd load, ALL parts overheat and ALL parts explode, ALL AT ONCE.

This vessel here is my ongoing Eeloo flight, en route for over a year in game and about as long again from orbital insertion. Distance to Kerbol is about equal to Jool's orbit, so it's not just intense sunshine.

I have been playing this save for a few months, the problem first manifested a few irl days ago with that crewed mission to Eeloo. Over a year in game time, launched a few weeks back in real time.
Since then, I've been working on a flamboyant Duna mission (must have dumped $40 million on all support flights, test flights, installing a network of a dozen relay satellites around Duna, assembling and fueling two Brobdingnagian vessels in orbit, and a third after one had somehow started breaking apart in its parking orbit).

Around the time I launch the two monsters out of the Kerbin SOI, I get an EC depletion warning for the Eeloo flight. I have tried resolving that after launching my two Duna ships out of Kerbin SOI, I've tried going back to an earlier save point and resolving it before launching them.
The Eeloo ship explodes, every time.

If I get my two Duna ships out of Kerbin SOI, leave them and then come back, they also start to explode. A little the first time, entirely the second.
Positively ancient probes that had been sitting happy in Kerbol orbit, I switch to them, they start exploding.
Since I can't play much KSP right now, I've instead made a video to illustrate the issue:

Mods installed: A vast number
I made a manual list of stuff in GameData and appended the list of DLLs from the log file.
As near as I can tell, everything is up to date and installed correctly.

Spoiler

000_AT_Utils
000_ClickThroughBlocker
000_FilterExtensions
000_FilterExtensions_Configs
000_Toolbar
000_USITools
001_ToolbarControl
002_CommunityPartsTitles
999_KSP-Recall
Ablative-Airbrake
AnimatedDecouplers
AnyRes
ASET
AttitudeAdjuster
AugmentedReality
AutoAGL
B9PartSwitch
BehemothAerospaceEngineering
BetterBurnTime
BetterTimeWarp
Bluedog_DB
Bluedog_DB_Extras
BurstAtomicThrustModule
CameraFocusChanger
ChopShop
ComfortableLanding
CommunityCategoryKit
CommunityResourcePack
CommunityTechTree
ConfigurableContainers
Contares
Contares_EYE
Contares_IND
Contares_JPN
Contares_KHI
Contares_LEM
Contares_MEU
Contares_NAM
Contares_NBS
Contares_PROBES
Contares_RUS
CRERecolors
CrewLight
CryoEngines
CryoEnginesExtensions
CryoEnginesRestock
CryoTanks
DecouplerShroud
DeployableBatteries
DeployableEngines
Diazo
   AGExt
   RCSLandAid
   TWR1
DistantObject
DMagicOrbitalScience
DMagicScienceAnimate
DraggableAltimeter
DraggableNavball
DynamicBatteryStorage
EasyVesselSwitch
EditorExtensionsRedux
Eisenhower-Astronautics
ExceptionDetectorUpdated
Firespitter
FixDockingNodes
FShangarExtender
FuelTanksPlus
GravityTurn
HeatControl
ImprovedSeaDragon
InternalRCS
InterstellarFuelSwitch
JanitorsCloset
JetSoundsUpdated
JSI
JX2Antenna
KAS
KeepItStraight
KeR-7
KerbalAtomics
KerbalEngineer
KerbalImprovedSaveSystem
KerbalJointReinforcement
KerbalReusabilityExpansion
Kerbaltek
KermangeddonIndustries
   InlineBallutes
KIS
KlockheedMartian
   KlockheedMartianLtd
   SpaceShuttleEngines
Knes
KourageousTourists
KRASH
KSP-AVC
KspCraftOrganizer
KWRocketry
LandingHeight
LonesomeRobots
LShipPartsModern
LShipPartsRequired
MechJebForAll
MinimumAmbientLightingUpdated
Mk2Expansion
Mk3Expansion
MoarFilterExtensionConfigs
ModActions
ModPods
ModularLaunchPads
ModuleManagerWatchDog
NavBallAdjustor
NavBallDockingAlignmentIndicatorCE
NearFutureAeronautics
NearFutureConstruction
NearFutureElectrical
NearFutureExploration
NearFutureLaunchVehicles
NearFutureProps
NearFuturePropulsion
NearFutureSolar
NearFutureSpacecraft
NEBULA
   EVAHandRailsPack
NecroBones
   LithobrakeExplorationTechnologies
   ModularRocketSystems
   SeaDragon
NovaPunch
OrbitalColony
ParkingBrake
PartInfo
PartWizard
PatchManager
Pebkac
PersistentRotation
PreciseEditor
PreciseManeuver
ProceduralFairings
PWBFuelBalancerRestored
QuickMods
   QuickContracts
   QuickExit
   QuickGoTo
   QuickRevert
   QuickSearch
   QuickStart
RCSBuildAid
RealPlume
RealPlume-Stock
ReCoupler
REPOSoftTech
   BackgroundResources
   DeepFreeze
ReStock
ReStockPlus
RestockRigidLegs
RestockWaterfallExpansion
RetractableLiftingSurface
RocketMotorMenagerie
SCANsat
ShipManifest
SimpleAdjustableFairings
SituationModuleInfo
SmartDockingAid
SmartParts
SmokeScreen
SpaceTuxLibrary
SpaceY
Squad
SquadExpansion
   MakingHistory
SSTUWaterfall
StagedAnimation
StationPartsExpansionRedux
SteeringTweaker
StockWaterfallEffects
StructuralPanels
SXT
SystemHeat
TacFuelBalancer
TankLock
Tantares
TantaresLV
TantaresSP
TarsierSpaceTech
TDProps
TextureReplacer
ThrottleControlledAvionics
ThunderAerospace
ToadicusTools
TokamakIndustries
TrackingStationEvolved
Trajectories
TriggerTech
   TransferWindowPlanner
TundraExploration
TundraTechnologies
TweakableEverything
TweakScale
TweakScaleCompanion
UmbraSpaceIndustries
WarpEverywherePlus
WasdEditorCamera
Waterfall
WaterfallRestock
WildBlueIndustries
   000WildBlueTools
   001KerbalActuators
   ClassicStockResources
   DSEV
   KerbalKISItems
   MOLE
ZeroMiniAVC
zFinal_FilterExtensions

666_ModuleManagerWatchDog.dll
999_Scale_Redist.dll
ModuleManager.4.2.3.dll
ModuleManager.Physics
ModuleManager.TechTree
toolbar-settings.dat
WBIPlayMode.cfg

DLL List from Player.Log:

Mod DLLs found:
Name Assembly Version Assembly File Version KSPAssembly Version SHA256

Assembly-CSharp                         0.0.0.0                  0.0.0.0                  1.12                     d9e42483f25ee80a9c11d6c1c0a0d29b4ec78c1e08d76c971b71580c9cce51e4
ModuleManagerWatchDog                   1.1.1.1                  1.1.1.1                  1.1                      a448b8e5a34871b87512f7148da8937bba0d70de971882e6a530ac8a6aec16ce
Scale_Redist                            1.0.0.0                  2.5.0.62                                          717da7153a0b3789e5f21d7605f21e2365c8d73c4adcc45de070144d98aae525
ModuleManager                           4.2.3.0                  4.2.3.0                  2.5                      95847827ab293b9e82a19b7efb97ffea3e98cc03b181862536ac8eb572e30d7d
000_AT_Utils                            1.10.1.0                 1.10.1.0                 1.10                     8067a1579c444d5c3cc87fe6fcf0ef05f23b43863af55e048eebab5f91cabaea
001_AnisotropicPartResizer              1.5.0.1                  1.5.0.1                  1.5                      8121f05989a0e1ea562f62eaf7fb2f1beed7287229b63dcce077c6c038c8554a
0_00_AT_Utils_UI                        1.0.0.0                  1.0.0.0                                           ea38ee0f96c90783f076a3b88cb8ee0c9620919ada90ecf2971f7a8966fa25fa
CC.UI                                   1.0.0.0                  1.0.0.0                                           e4ae82a8540aa851c505e8fef0cbbb53d76de491e22c2ecdc9c34f51b9c02bb0
ConfigurableContainers                  2.6.2.1                  2.6.2.1                  2.6                      d5b8b24c0879e6ef44cea396983b55553ddf48785e9be5efaa02c1a5e0d770dd
ClickThroughBlocker                     2.1.10.21                2.1.10.21                2.1                      4f2750c9b95b543392821a77a07a3564c300ead674380b15c5af2c9b9f0d7e69
FilterExtensions                        3.2.9.0                  3.2.9                    3.2                      db1e6d8e5ed2554908d1cdd0700c5495bca416dd2f077e556d62d293db9d6f2f
aaa_Toolbar                             1.8.1.1                  1.8.1.1                  1.8                      926507fb1f6bc1cfdeb2f8ed418434b268481efdc5e60e1bb027f02d1ddf9a72
USITools                                1.0.0.0                  1.0.0.0                                           b67965e8c41a79634b17216e987222f57d4a5e1d584fa2ff92a803f72243fac0
USIToolsUI                              1.0.0.0                  1.0.0.0                                           b71fdee670368311ef4912ff3fc151ca2d89da2189fca1f62d8024174f79ca04
ToolbarControl                          0.1.9.11                 0.1.9.11                 1.0                      c14afb3cc01611a37f9607e514a15e40cb2a8842cb34d398c3cb43e5468cd100
KSPe.Light.Recall                       2.5.2.0                  2.5.2.0                  2.5                      72414459ef240f216af82450c5f9bb5976c33e83f8bbe7c80d83aff05cd3df03
Attached                                0.4.0.4                  0.4.0.4                                           aa02883c31dd5bef3512d267ac7cf245277a40808669184ac83548fa12b69d18
AttachedOnEditor                        0.4.0.4                  0.4.0.4                                           a5dd0068e2c14cf12ffacaafa7901127cb38f532bda3854b8a947bb8028d12b6
ChillingOut                             0.4.0.4                  0.4.0.4                                           8e98b57e37363f6ad05732202dac9ece78062e23ef906b9fc6d234200f0361f9
Driftless                               0.4.0.4                  0.4.0.4                                           45c1c942435bfe1d83320c317b2a7c6404722ef35d19a115a08a0ffc88ed0cf6
KSP-Recall                              0.4.0.4                  0.4.0.4                                           fd4e0d8db53daed2eb76066fe2fb202c6f718951591b3b70e4b791a445e8e580
Refunding                               0.4.0.4                  0.4.0.4                                           9deddd037d0e4a37d4133b502777f12b63db504007de1c1596653d817d751dfe
Resourceful                             0.4.0.4                  0.4.0.4                                           2884472a141ed30e1452794a9dab277ac336b1fc5708bf991d890066af4b3c3b
AnimatedDecouplers                      1.4.2.19194              1.4.2.19194                                       110de668c94355a7c3116a0aed7b2347d07c71b7e4361b1d43332edbc7909421
AnyResContinued                         2.0.9.1                  2.0.9.1                  2.0                      b059af543ccec08f5413a0f9bb5baec5cdbd5c00611e7ee6b18ab7e9f1e04009
ASETPropsIdentifier                     1.5.0.0                  1.5.0.0                                           de67fa4b61ead19cab9dd48d24d2e2a265f7ad8ec930c9d2729ce8c06b9088f9
AttitudeAdjuster                        1.0.0.0                  1.0.0.0                                           d2e687103e88e4fdbef6d00a76a17903d5d6e6c8e07f8f4ee80c25995084433b
AugmentedReality                        0.2.2.5                  0.2.2.5                                           3e82552e28f82926936a1b2952a8f1a497fe3067caeec5269d61fbabec997a20
AutoAGL                                 1.0.0.0                  1.0.0.0                                           db6a1dd066a71384a26073738ccc98ae1c72a1f9c6f5d34e70c5fddd80d86a2a
B9PartSwitch                            2.20.0.0                 2.20.0.0                 2.20                     dcac96c5274d797bb0be965b5b9b941196b3d75fe2af6f29cc0b4bb5335c3439
BetterBurnTime                          1.0.0.0                  1.0.0.0                                           fb54635e7b3e75efd59936dab593b710c9a974b9f4b038d5cd577f0c07c488ac
BetterTimeWarpCont                      2.3.13.0                 2.3.13                   2.3                      6673bb8258601474baf44aaa5bed344a9c8a8ca44ba5e91f49c2b4cf28e92344
BDB                                     1.11.1.0                 1.11.1.0                                          2aaba6241ea2855833ec73bfa7d24cbbfa4d54047f0beaa9bae3b688f1423629
BurstAtomicThrust                       0.1.0.3                  0.1.0.3                                           ff750461f6b4e1ddf9ed459b182dab228a30b20e7b77db47312d685ded7d7137
CameraFocusChanger                      1.1.0.2                  1.1.0.2                  1.1                      d74dfcd12ddd69e3cb9414f13348f08ed2a697c92b3b3b90a0af4159fb8ac740
ComfortableLanding                      2.0.2.5                  2.0.2.5                  2.0                      ab4f9b323f335d709cf118a529cc767fd560c48b58e4224fd704b62cabc8447e
CCK                                     5.1.0.0                  5.1.0.0                                           c139accf47abe6cf6aa3772c5f7bd7b10da049d7da8706b3e8c7fbf743a107fc
CrewLight                               1.20.1.1                 1.20.1.1                 1.20                     20e410dab25a5eb718458653168932a930d456970685b9fcd318ac5b2d794343
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DecouplerShroud                         0.8.1.0                  0.8.1                    0.8                      82626763e8677819ec255ee57a524c1504e1cd68665bfe34055ae4d0968d304d
KSP_Log                                 1.2.0.1                  1.2.0.1                  1.2                      542be24bf5eedd3d4f43b73d9f96782832d163d5a4fb9b8e3e3cef1b80cfec9c
DeployableBatteries                     0.2.0.8                  0.2.0.8                                           80c906e1690022f93d402ba020817154cf1c9c8a5eb975e7433d5fe8f915e6f4
DeployableEngines                       2.2.0.0                  2.2.0.0                                           6223c9ed38d08f2526df3433fc8816caa8b5953959c188d5d3dcf87e97660dd5
AGExt                                   2.4.1.3                  2.4.1.3                  2.4                      24ebad539f29ae2b35bc6492c87301ea931ac62dff2e5596b3de15375b1f7e40
RCSLandAid                              3.4.0.2                  3.4.0.2                  3.4                      7b4bf160b048f7d9b410fd70f2699407471935509288cc2d1748a40e2278d029
TWR1                                    1.34.0.3                 1.34.0.3                                          74bbca5809d6385600a76d4c7bd334f4e1dd2b2d225375282ff21b8725af2e46
DistantObject                           0.0.0.0                  0.0.0.0                                           8e19a20961714f583f7fd33d36b29a52112479ce234e95e5f48f266c5f68b86e
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Firespitter                             7.3.8184.27760           7.3.8184.27760                                    a193ec86445055f832a9b6b97ad7376cc5e15a1d1315780cd9872e5e956b5f87
FixDockingNodes                         1.1.0.0                  1.1.0.0                  1.1                      41e64aedb1d95037f9f091b7aa74662c079a952020cea0674d3b512708ec5b47
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GravityTurnContinued                    1.8.4.0                  1.8.4                    1.8                      818d1735be49b9daacc026535fe25f8087e6c903fb8a78a8961e60f8b609f00a
InterstellarFuelSwitch                  3.30.0.0                 3.30.0.0                                          2d1403487112a380276dcda9cf52af130d75be074eac51428bf4bbb12c1d37b5
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RasterPropMonitor                       0.31.13.4                0.31.13.4                0.18                     cc842abf37ee38ea275fa61d75ad8a448e91ca6815c85dbc11e9da6276995d3c
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KAS                                     1.12.8285.34332          1.12.8285.34332          1.12                     4f3786d8ab5ab86d6dd5657fb9070acb45da2c1c115a35033901e1776a2a2ff8
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KeepItStraight                          1.4.0.0                  1.4.0.0                                           31de3f0e348d63baeaf907330e58083e9dca0d60cb855d2825ec24610079acab
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KerbalEngineer                          1.1.9.0                  1.1.9.0                                           83c75e4f935dda43ca8b781cf4769a4e6ad365f2cb17a24028076afe87515958
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HyperEdit                               1.5.8.0                  1.5.8                                             785d17c6a63581909ecbf4b6fb450b01315c4041e4a1c69a9d51ddcc6e9911c6
KIS                                     1.29.8039.40483          1.29.8039.40483          1.29                     aafdd744081e24fdb7f638c34c46de78c5a7ebba439248733b9718061175dc5d
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KRASH                                   0.5.34.0                 0.5.34                   0.5                      2f5ec2a457abeb606e30bedd44ca7378c5ef05bd9bc595c6353f20ffa53b5615
KSP-AVC                                 1.4.1.9                  1.4.1.9                  1.4                      4d3ac899c0dc2cf68ece70e03060d930ee012c90aaf3dce13e911d755208bd51
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DiazosLandingHeight                     2.3.0.1                  2.3.0.1                                           5cbb5bdededa0ed90c40d7b2183b3e3d126646811c8543611db2a4237b194274
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Reproduction: load a vessel, regardless of elapsed mission duration, one that is outside the Kerbin SOI. Load once for partial explosion, load a second time for total obliteration.

Logs: Here is Player.log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12FZxQzGn-Yv5kPpsNl9GphnOUpTzIIl2/view?usp=drive_link
Here is a .rar with Player.log, Player-prev.log, Exception Detector Updated log, logs from the SpaceTux mods, and Module Manager logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Se-ua349RbXGNXN0cV5bnCoEFhWDeaH/view?usp=drive_link

Googling around, the only suggested solution that I found involved getting into my .sfs file and looking for a "ridiculously long number" in place of some temperature, and once located, replace it with a more reasonable number. Unfortunately, I found no such number.

I don't expect anyone try to replicate my save, of course.
I would however be incredibly grateful for any help in fixing this. In 2022, my motherboard died, and this set off a 2 year odyssey of disassembling and reassembling my gaming rig. Every time I have it running again, something else breaks. I somehow went through four motherboards (fun fact: water damage isn't covered by warranty), two radiators, and so much more.
I live on a disability pension, and since most of my eyesight was taken from me, there are only so many games I can enjoy. FPS are right out.

Please, I beseech thee. How can I fix this?
I am not above using the debug console or hyperedit, or manually editing files. If there is no fix, and the only workaround would count as a cheat, I would try that in a pinch, too.

Edited April 3 by DerGolgo
marked solved

DerGolgo · April 2

I don't usually use the debug menu, but some more close study of some very old google results suggested that by checking the box for "No Crash Damage", the overheat-explosions could be averted.
I tested it out, along side "No Max Temperature".
As evident in the video, the former is no help, while the latter does prevent explosions - yet leaves my vessels glowing in the dark, even if I turned off the heat bars.

I'd still prefer a fix to this workaround and would greatly appreciate any assistance.

DerGolgo · April 2

On further consideration, the game remains broken.
Deep space missions depending on fission reactors don't play nice even when "Max Temperature" is being ignored.
I switch to a vessel, first thing I must do is turn off the fission reactors before they take damage. Followed right by opening hyperedit, and manually adjusting the electric charge until the radiators etc. have cooled down enough.
Which really requires timewarp, and several minutes of me spamming the electric charge slider, lest a lack of electric charge interfere with my frozen kerbals.

Yes, I did try playing around with the various "thermal" sliders in the debug menu. Couldn't really affect the problem significantly.

There must be some value in some cfg or sfs file that can fix this. Anybody?

Krakatoa · April 2

I definitely don't know if I can help you, but I have seen in the past (and possibly currently) a notice on the Kopernicus thread warning about interstellar overheating. You also have quite a few mods, so any of them could be a problem. I don't think you've posted your ksp.log file mentioned in the how to get support thread. Add that to this thread and perhaps someone that can understand them better will be able to help or explain what's going on.

Edit: Ah, I see the player.log. That has most of the info, but the KSP.log one might help folks, too. My first inclination is something with System Heat, but on looking again at the video, do those craft have reactors but no radiators?

Edited April 2 by Krakatoa

DerGolgo · April 2

16 minutes ago, Krakatoa said:

I definitely don't know if I can help you, but I have seen in the past (and possibly currently) a notice on the Kopernicus thread warning about interstellar overheating. You also have quite a few mods, so any of them could be a problem. I don't think you've posted your ksp.log file mentioned in the how to get support thread. Add that to this thread and perhaps someone that can understand them better will be able to help or explain what's going on.

Thanks. I was sure I had read somewhere some warning to absolutely not post ksp.log, for confuddling reasons.
I just tried to upload my ksp.log to my Google Drive and... ehm... it's 1.4 GB. Even if I get it uploaded. Is such a gigantic pile of data going to be any help to anyone?

20 minutes ago, Krakatoa said:

My first inclination is something with System Heat, but on looking again at the video, do those craft have reactors but no radiators?

The big one (not the one with the huge exploding dish) has reactors, and each reactor has a surfeit of radiator cooling capacity. A pair of graphene radiators which, between them, have a few hundred kW more cooling than needed, if memory serves.
Until last week, when this overheating problem manifested out of noplace, those reactors were running all kinds of content and happy at 800K and 100% core health.

Krakatoa · April 2

44 minutes ago, DerGolgo said:

Thanks. I was sure I had read somewhere some warning to absolutely not post ksp.log, for confuddling reasons.
I just tried to upload my ksp.log to my Google Drive and... ehm... it's 1.4 GB. Even if I get it uploaded. Is such a gigantic pile of data going to be any help to anyone?

The folks that are good at troubleshooting can use the find feature to look for specific flags, so yes, possibly. You may need to zip the file to put it on your drive. Those logs can get large, but the fact it's that big may be the first clue that there's something afoot, as it might be bloated with NullReferenceExceptions.

Gotmachine · April 3

A 1.4 GB ksp.log is a sure sign that there is something very wrong and that can at least help identify which one of your billions of mods you should remove.

Just zip the file before uploading it.

DerGolgo · April 3

10 hours ago, Krakatoa said:

The folks that are good at troubleshooting can use the find feature to look for specific flags, so yes, possibly. You may need to zip the file to put it on your drive. Those logs can get large, but the fact it's that big may be the first clue that there's something afoot, as it might be bloated with NullReferenceExceptions.

2 hours ago, Gotmachine said:

A 1.4 GB ksp.log is a sure sign that there is something very wrong and that can at least help identify which one of your billions of mods you should remove.

Just zip the file before uploading it.

Thanks guys!
The file zips down to 21.6 MB, which to my limited understanding of compression suggests a lot of those 1.4 gig is indeed just repeats.
ksp.log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z9I_8Mo1Zp2SK6Z3sC98hYWA31r5tjEV/view?usp=drive_link

Since last I uploaded player.log, I played around some more with the thermal options in the debug menu.
So here's a new player.log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XuEjyn-g5HXVnHTLLKJGIrl1sA4t8GMx/view?usp=drive_link

[EDIT: since I was in there, I also grabbed the contents of Kerbal Space Program\Logs\, with AVC, SpaceTux, and ModuleManager logs. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R3rfkxKz65o-iDpsgnlsuPALYzHHvF96/view?usp=drive_link ]

Not that that last round of fettling helped at all, though with "ignore max temperature" preventing explosion, I was able to convince a ship to cool down, given enough timewarp. This did require shutting down my fission reactors immediately, since with all parts overheating, the radiators were overheated, also. So a lot of spamming the "electric charge" slider in hyperedit while timewarping.
But after switching away from the vessel and then coming back, the overheating had returned, also, so that's not a feasible workaround, either.

Not sure about relevance, but a day or two before the overheating first manifested, I started getting "out of EC" errors for the REPOSoftech Cryo modules I have on my Eeloo ship. The rest of the ship wasn't out of EC, and even dialing up the reactors before the countdown ran out didn't help. Googling around suggested an old bug in the mod.
Workaround that fixed it was to either have a Kerbal do an EVA, switching to another ship or Tracking Station and coming back, or using Hyperedit's Orbit Editor tool in complex mode, simply setting it to "current orbit" and hitting apply on that, resetting the ship's orbit to what it had already been.
That warning also still comes up when everything overheats, on first visit, though only after a small number of parts has already exploded.

Edited April 3 by DerGolgo

Gotmachine · April 3

Hard to say what is going on. I see 3 potential issues :

1. There are a few plugins erroring out in minor ways, but for whatever reason DeepFreeze is having a really bad time.
I don't see any obvious link between that and your issue, but I would still recommend removing it, as playing with unstable plugins isn't a good idea in general.

2. It seems you have updated some plugins between the last time you used that save.
There are tons of module index reordering happening when you're loading your vessels, caused by the "Refunding" module from the KSP-Recall plugin to have been removed, I guess following some update.
This can potentially cause some data loss that could in theory cause weird issues like you're having, but it's difficult to establish a relation with your specific issue.
(On a side note, for whatever reason, you have some MM patch trying to put a non-existent "TestPersistentId" from KSP-Recall module on every part, not much of an issue, but there is something weird happening with that plugin in your install)

3. What seems to happen is something applying unrealistic temperatures before the vessel is even fully loaded, as things are starting to explode before the flight integrator has a chance to apply the initial analytic temperature to your vessel.
This could be due to some game loop interleaving problem caused by heavy CPU load on scene switches that didn't happen previously. If I understood your previous posts correctly, the issue doesn't always happen, which is a hallmark of such problems.
If that isn't already the case, I would suggest reducing the "max physics delta-time per frame" main menu setting to its minimum value of 0.03, which can help with such issues.

Assuming you still have a backup of your save from before the problem started to appear, I would suggest installing KSPCommunityFixes, which has some mitigation fixes for issues 2 and 3, as well as allowing a lower 0.02 "max physics delta-time per frame" value, which is guaranteed to eliminate every problem linked to game loop interleaving. It might not help at all, but it's worth a try.

Note that in general, similar issues as yours (vessel overheating on load) aren't unheard of in unmodded KSP, especially when converters, drills and radiators are involved, so you might "just" be hitting that stock bug for whatever reason.
It would be nice to be able to reproduce it with a minimal setup in terms of installed mods, as TBH, externally diagnosing such issues in heavily modded installs is near impossible, even more when mods were installed manually and not through CKAN.

Edited April 3 by Gotmachine

DerGolgo · April 3

1 hour ago, Gotmachine said:

1. There are a few plugins erroring out in minor ways, but for whatever reason DeepFreeze is having a really bad time.
I don't see any obvious link between that and your issue, but I would still recommend removing it, as playing with unstable plugins isn't a good idea in general.

DeepFreeze was being buggy before the overheating thing manifested. Removing it would kill my Eeloo mission, so that would be something I try later, but good to have more info.

1 hour ago, Gotmachine said:

2. It seems you have updated some plugins between the last time you used that save.
There are tons of module index reordering happening when you're loading your vessels, caused by the "Refunding" module from the KSP-Recall plugin to have been removed, I guess following some update.
This can potentially cause some data loss that could in theory cause weird issues like you're having, but it's difficult to establish a relation with your specific issue.
(On a side note, for whatever reason, you have some MM patch trying to put a non-existent "TestPersistentId" from KSP-Recall module on every part, not much of an issue, but there is something weird happening with that plugin in your install)

I do update mods when updates are out. I know I updated KSP Recall after the problem had manifested, trying to make sure all my mods were up to date.
But it's been updated a few times recently, I think I'll go back to an earlier version.

1 hour ago, Gotmachine said:

Assuming you still have a backup of your save from before the problem started to appear, I would suggest installing KSPCommunityFixes, which has some mitigation fixes for issues 2 and 3, as well as allowing a lower 0.02 "max physics delta-time per frame" value, which is guaranteed to eliminate every problem linked to game loop interleaving. It might not help at all, but it's worth a try.

I will try that, too, thanks!

DerGolgo · April 3

Found it!
Community Fixes and reducing physics delta didn't do it, problem persisted.
I downdated KSP Recall back to 4.0.1.0, released a year ago, and nothing explodes. Deep Freeze is still buggy, though. ;.;

I will spend the next couple of hours trying to nail down which version of KSP Recall got explosive.

Thank you, @Gotmachine, thank you, @Krakatoa!
I really should have figured this out myself, thank you for sticking with me regardless!

Gotmachine · April 3

Well, if you keep having issues with KSP-Recall (which I assume you got only because of TweakScale), notice that there is a new fork of TweakScale dubbed "TweakScale Rescaled".
It is basically a ground up rewrite of that mod that consequently doesn't need the KSP-Recall thing to work, is way less buggy, and has a few nice QoL addtions.

DerGolgo · April 3

Haha!
Here is how dense I am. :confused:
When I updated Recall last, I had decided I wanted to try out the "Extras". The folder structure therein had not been entirely clear, so I chucked the _LOCAL folder just into GameData.
Without it, the latest Recall version makes no boom.
With it. BigBaddaBoom!

I will give rescaled a whirl, though. I've been unhappy with TweakScale for a while.

[Solved] Suddenly, everything overheats and explodes when loading ANY vessel in interplanetary space

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