Globul Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) Complaint Spoiler I always wanted to play in KSP in the real solar system. I want to see the same Moon in the game that I see in my sky. I don't want to go to Dune -- I want to go to Mars. Tell me, is it possible to make it so that the KSP has a real solar system and it is possible to fly in it? It turned out that yes, it can be done. We just can't fly. For this, you will need an entire system of interconnected modifications that will complicate the game so much that you won't want to play anymore. Idea But why complicate things? Especially so much. Can't something be done so that everything is as simple as in stock, only with a real planetary system? Can't we make it so that even beginners players who are just starting to learn mods can leave Kerbol's system for our real solar system, with its real planets, speeds, and distances? Over several years of playing in KSP, I didn't find a ready solution, so I had to do everything myself. Thanks to the community for their help and the existing mods that can be used to solve various problems. First and foremost this is, of course, Module Manager, which provides everything needed. My RSS Adapter has no software code. It is a system of patches for Module Manager that changes the properties of fuel and engine parameters. Engines Practically all engines in the stock game and DLC have prototypes in real astronautics. And as it turned out, the parameters of their prototypes are quite suitable for playing in RSS. Nothing needs to be invented. I passed the career without external sets of engines and saw that this was enough. In essence, for playing in the real solar system, you only need some very powerful engines to overcome the gravity of real Earth, and the rest of the variety does not matter. However, it is impossible to pass by Real Engines Pack. The old mod gained a new life thanks to my Module Manager patches. Now its engines have the characteristics of real engines and realistic exhaust based on Waterfoll. It was also impossible to ignore Tantares - its engines are also brought into line with the real ones, although not all, but only those that are critical for reaching Earth orbit. Fuel But how is the amount of fuel in the tanks resolved? It turned out to be very simple - there is such a parameter as fuel density in the game. And if you change it, then you won't have to patch each tank from each mod. There will simply be as much fuel in each tank as before, but its density will increase, which is equivalent to increasing its quantity. Thus, I managed to select such a density at which the game copy of the Soyuz rocket will be proportional to the real rocket and will put approximately the same load onto orbit. Screenshots Spoiler Dependencies I could not resist adding to the game those types of fuel that are used in real space exploration. Since assigning real characteristics to engines, one cannot refuse the fuel they used. However, this was done long ago, and I merely agreed that I would depend on Cryo Tanks. However, I had to add "hydrazine" because many engines operate on it. This proved to be very useful for RCS, since they also mainly work on this fuel pair, and now they can use main fuel without having separate tanks for monopropellant. I made an RCS switch for two types of fuel: Az50+NTO or monopropellant. The same switch I made for monopropellant tanks. Since the fuel density is greatly increased, rockets have become significantly heavier. For example, the same replica of the Soyuz rocket weighs about the same as the real rocket. Therefore, for passing the career, it was necessary to slightly increase the carrying capacity of the launch pad of the first and second level. This is done using a patch for the Custom Barn Kit mod. Now you know what will happen if you do not install this mod. Installation Real Solar System RSS Adapter As a result, we have the following list of mods required to work RSS Adapter: Cryo Tanks Custom Barn Kit Do not forget to install Cryo Tank's dependancies: Community Resource Pack B9 Part Switch Module Manager Support Tantares -- its engines will have real-life characteristics. Internal RCS -- has a switch between Az50+NTO and Monopropellant. Procedural Parts -- has a switch to Az50+NTO. Mandatory RCS -- will unlock all SAS nodes for you from the start, add an unmanned module to each cabin, and move RCS further left in the tech tree. Real Engines Pack -- has a reasonable distribution in the tech tree, real characteristics and Waterfoll. It is recommended to install the Textures Unlimited mod, which automatically fixes the appearance of some engines from this pack. Bluedog Design Bureau -- He's working at the RSS now. Kerbalism – natch – how can we do without it? Conflicts Real Fuel -- cannot be compatible with RSS Adapter, since it changes the same thing: fuel and engines. Changelog Spoiler # Changelog RSS Adapter 0.3.1 The first public release. Many patches are grouped into several files. RSS Adapter 0.3.2 Fixed the display of the traction vector for real engines. Added config unlimited textures to correct the appearance of some of the real engines. Hydrazine from tablets and containers of life support is removed. Added various corrections for Tantares. RSS Adapter 0.3.3 Changes in the Tech Tree. Fixed waterfall effects for real engines. RSS Adapter 0.3.4 SRBs are led to more real values based on the SLS side booster. RSS Adapter 0.3.5 Real engines are finally placed on the techtree. A role was found for a poodle. RSS Adapter 0.3.6 Added waterfall for Tantares RCS Added ETC engine patch Any fixes RSS Adapter 0.3.7 Finished Tantares. Begin BDB. Modified readme RSS Adapter 0.3.8 Bluedog Design Bureau -- He's working at the RSS now! A bunch of minor corrections. RSS Adapter 0.3.9 Fixed the specific impulse vacuum for the NK-33 tantares. Added switches to Az50+NTO for the BDB blocks of the RCS. Added an adaptation of the Starship Expansion Project mod (being tested) LICENCE MIT Edited July 4 by Globul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adsii1970 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Hey, thanks for posting your idea! We've moved it to a more appropriate area of the modding forum where those members who work on mods are more likely to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woeller Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 15 hours ago, adsii1970 said: Hey, thanks for posting your idea! We've moved it to a more appropriate area of the modding forum where those members who work on mods are more likely to see it. Why? Did you overlook the installation part? Seems to be a mod, not just an idea. The only thing that seems to be missing here is a license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globul Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, woeller said: Seems to be a mod, not just an idea. Yes, this is a mod ready for use. I just tried to describe the basic concept of mod in this way. 1 hour ago, woeller said: The only thing that seems to be missing here is a license. Thank you, added here. The license could be seen on github. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermel00n Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Cool mod! In my opinion, I think the Poodle should be given the Centaur config since it resembles the two-chamber variant of the Centaur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globul Posted April 22 Author Share Posted April 22 17 hours ago, Watermel00n said: In my opinion, I think the Poodle should be given the Centaur config since it resembles the two-chamber variant of the Centaur. Well, that's an option. My mod is more aimed at beginners than realism. In general, for a long time I could not define it anywhere, and then I simply assigned it characteristics based on its place in the most banal craft. But I don't think this is the final solution. I still doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globul Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 On 4/17/2024 at 4:06 AM, adsii1970 said: Hey, thanks for posting your idea! We've moved it to a more appropriate area of the modding forum where those members who work on mods are more likely to see it. I think this theme is now properly designed for the mod releases section. Is it possible to move it there now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globul Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 (edited) Bluedog Design Bureau -- He's working at the RSS now! A lot of work was done based on the BDB author's ready-made crafts. Atlas, Saturns, Deltas and others – all of them are now able to do their jobs in the RSS. Edited June 25 by Globul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globul Posted July 4 Author Share Posted July 4 Added an adaptation of the Starship Expansion Project mod (being tested). The dev version can be found on GitHub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel Kerman Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 On 7/4/2024 at 5:47 AM, Globul said: Added an adaptation of the Starship Expansion Project mod (being tested). The dev version can be found on GitHub. Underrated mod IMO! How far did you tested the SEP addon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermel00n Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Any chance I could contribute to this mod? I want to start a career in it but I want to add compatibility for some mods I use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globul Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 On 9/8/2024 at 5:53 AM, Ariel Kerman said: Underrated mod IMO! How far did you tested the SEP addon? I'm not making any progress. I'm graduating from university and I just don't have time for this right now. But I think we may need to change the tank size slightly. Quite a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globul Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 On 9/15/2024 at 6:02 AM, Watermel00n said: Any chance I could contribute to this mod? I want to start a career in it but I want to add compatibility for some mods I use The list of mods that the adapter supports needs to be extended. That's the main thing this adapter needs. Since the RSS Adapter is just a config, you can upload it here and I'll include it in the adapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaintedLion Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 will this mod work with any mod that adds fuel/engines? or just the supported ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globul Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 On 05.10.2024 at 15:15, TaintedLion said: будет ли этот мод работать с любым модом, добавляющим топливо / двигатели? или только поддерживаемые? RSS Adapter modifies 5 types of fuel: liquid (renamed kerosene), hydrogen, methane, hydrazine, monoprop. He doesn't touch the rest. RSS Adapter modifies standard engines, as well as the list of supported modifications. Hi doesn't touch the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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