POTKC Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Oh well. I keep hope!For HOME info, go to the BobCat Ind. thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ShroomOfDoom Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Looks great BobCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phers Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Can this be launched same as Apollo/lm in same launch? Or does it need 2? 1 for Orion and 1 for Altair then orbital rendezvous and docking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShroomOfDoom Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Can this be launched same as Apollo/lm in same launch? Or does it need 2? 1 for Orion and 1 for Altair then orbital rendezvous and docking?It's 2 launches. Ares V will bring up the Altair lander. After that is done,Ares I will bring up the Orion and then both ships dock in orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver4470 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 It's 2 launches. Ares V will bring up the Altair lander. After that is done,Ares I will bring up the Orion and then both ships dock in orbit.Note that the lander will still have the second stage (the EDS) attached, and that's what will be used for transluna... er, transMunar injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShroomOfDoom Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Note that the lander will still have the second stage (the EDS) attached, and that's what will be used for transluna... er, transMunar injection.You're right daver,i totally forgot about that. Thanks for clarifying it,otherwise i might have led the poor guy astray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDBenson Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 BobCat: Looking awesome! I can't wait to take it for a spin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good_Apollo Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) Nevermind... Edited June 6, 2013 by Good_Apollo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little square dot Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Just want to say thanks for working on the Orion. It has replaced the Gemini and Soyuz capsules as my go-to pod. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajshell1 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Yes! Finally, I shall be able to use the rockets I grew so dearly attached to in IFE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthPhilly Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Thanks Bobcat for the Orion m8... "Flies like I stole it"!!!! Quick question though... How do you dock a pair of them together... 3 tries now and failed on each one. Does it only dock to the ISS dock??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elven_sword Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Ah, I remember IFE. I always felt like and idiot launching that Ares without proper solar panel folding mechanics, so they had to be out during launch. It'd be nice if he came back, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCOLE360 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Thanks Bobcat for the Orion m8... "Flies like I stole it"!!!! Quick question though... How do you dock a pair of them together... 3 tries now and failed on each one. Does it only dock to the ISS dock???No I docked to the clamp-otron regular just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthPhilly Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 No I docked to the clamp-otron regular just now.Ok on the regular docking port... That's good to know. But how about docking Orion to Orion... Every time I've tried it's a no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCOLE360 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Maybe they're not meant to dock together. Inspires Orion-Soyuz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthPhilly Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Maybe they're not meant to dock together. Inspires Orion-Soyuz.I bet ya if I get a running start at I'd get them to stick together.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOST_141 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 will this pack have the whole atlas and delta launch vehicle family?or just the delta IV +ares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netris Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 will this pack have the whole atlas and delta launch vehicle family?or just the delta IV +aresOnly Ares. If you want Atlas and Delta, check this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDBenson Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) Ok on the regular docking port... That's good to know. But how about docking Orion to Orion... Every time I've tried it's a no go.They aren't designed to dock wit h each other, the ports have a 'male' and 'female' side. Because the Orion capsules have the same docking port they wouldn't mesh in real life, unlike modules that use the Common Berthing Adapter, like the SpaceX Dragon cargo pod.I clearly know nothing about NASA docking adapters... There isn't much room under the fairing on the Ares I for any adapters, so I'm not sure what to suggest. Edited June 7, 2013 by MDBenson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phers Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 they dock together for me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDBenson Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) Oh! maybe he got whacked with the docking bug? I dunno. They aren't *supposed* (IRL) to but I guess KSP doesn't stop ports working with themselves. Edited June 7, 2013 by MDBenson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibb31 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 They aren't designed to dock wit h each other, the ports have a 'male' and 'female' side. Because the Orion capsules have the same docking port they wouldn't mesh in real life, unlike modules that use the Common Berthing Adapter, like the SpaceX Dragon cargo pod.There isn't much room under the fairing on the Ares I for any adapters, so I'm not sure what to suggest.Orion was supposed to use LIDS, which is androgynous. KSP doesn't care though, all docking ports are androgynous as long as the collision model works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDBenson Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I think it still will use LIDS as one of it's early manned missions will be flight and docking with ISS via the PMA which also uses LIDS, the same as the Shuttle docking adapter did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibb31 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) The Shuttles used the APAS-89 docking rings that were fitted for the Shuttle-Mir program and are also fitted to the PMAs.LIDS (Low Impact Docking System) and its NASA implementation called NDS (NASA Docking System), were supposed to become an international standard that would facilitate international collaboration while improving on the old APAS system. However, it was mothballed for the ISS project in favor of Boeing's in-house SIMAC adapter. I'm not sure about the reason, but I think it was due to some disagreement with the Russians about the internal diameter of the docking adapter.The plan is for two International Docking Adapter rings (IDA) to be carried to the ISS (not sure how) and fitted to the APAS-89 rings of the PMAs. Then, the COTS vehicles (DragonRider, CST-100 or DreamChaser) will be equipped with SIMAC and dock to the IDA/PMA. Cargo vehicles will continue to use CBM and berthing instead of docking.Orion is never going to the ISS. Therefore it is not constrained to SIMAC and exploration missions could use the NDS/LIDS system. I don't think a decision has been made yet.Anyway, I have no problems with docking BobCat's Orion: Edited June 7, 2013 by Nibb31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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