Bermuda Triangle might be natural

[jwenting]

the Bermuda Triangle is natural, in that there's nothing weird going on there whatsoever.

[Brethern]

I enjoy reading these tinfoil hat theories. Usually makes for good entertainment and makes for good creepypasta.

However I used to be obsessed with the Bermuda triangle. So I did allot of reading on it.

Right now my stance is this.

People like to be scared. So when a plane crashes in the Bermuda triangle the story is always going to involve something that causes chills.

Because of it's reputation ships and planes that are late are reported missing, when they show up no one notifies the proper people saying they are here, Delete their name from the missing ship list.

I read somewhere that the torpedo bombers did in fact crash in the everglades. If I knew where the article was I'd link it.

And finally Allot of these yachts that disappear. 10/1 says the operators were drunk or didn't know what they were doing, what do you expect to happen?

So yeah unless a UFO lands on the white house lawn and says were are behind the triangle. It's just a over hyped area.

[Person012345]

Larry Kusche

Lawrence David Kusche, a research librarian from Arizona State University and author of The Bermuda Triangle Mystery: Solved (1975)[16] argued that many claims of Gaddis and subsequent writers were often exaggerated, dubious or unverifiable. Kusche's research revealed a number of inaccuracies and inconsistencies between Berlitz's accounts and statements from eyewitnesses, participants, and others involved in the initial incidents. Kusche noted cases where pertinent information went unreported, such as the disappearance of round-the-world yachtsman Donald Crowhurst, which Berlitz had presented as a mystery, despite clear evidence to the contrary. Another example was the ore-carrier recounted by Berlitz as lost without trace three days out of an Atlantic port when it had been lost three days out of a port with the same name in the Pacific Ocean. Kusche also argued that a large percentage of the incidents that sparked allegations of the Triangle's mysterious influence actually occurred well outside it. Often his research was simple: he would review period newspapers of the dates of reported incidents and find reports on possibly relevant events like unusual weather, that were never mentioned in the disappearance stories.

Kusche concluded that:

The number of ships and aircraft reported missing in the area was not significantly greater, proportionally speaking, than in any other part of the ocean.

In an area frequented by tropical storms, the number of disappearances that did occur were, for the most part, neither disproportionate, unlikely, nor mysterious;

Furthermore, Berlitz and other writers would often fail to mention such storms or even represent the disappearance as having happened in calm conditions when meteorological records clearly contradict this.

The numbers themselves had been exaggerated by sloppy research. A boat's disappearance, for example, would be reported, but its eventual (if belated) return to port may not have been.

Some disappearances had, in fact, never happened. One plane crash was said to have taken place in 1937 off Daytona Beach, Florida, in front of hundreds of witnesses; a check of the local papers revealed nothing.

The legend of the Bermuda Triangle is a manufactured mystery, perpetuated by writers who either purposely or unknowingly made use of misconceptions, faulty reasoning, and sensationalism.[16]

[Motokid600]

" A boat's disappearance, for example, would be reported, but its eventual (if belated) return to port may not have"

That's a large loophole lol. I don't believe in this stuff, but if there is something going on it has a natural explanation. Not super. For instance ...I believe in ghosts. Ive had an encounter with an anomaly a few years back. But again I do not believe in the super natural. Just like the triangle ghosts must have a physical explanation. There are things we do not understand about our universe. How does death work? Is the soul recycled and used for infants? Stuff like that.

[PakledHostage]

And finally Allot of these yachts that disappear. 10/1 says the operators were drunk or didn't know what they were doing, what do you expect to happen?

It is all too easy to judge from the comfort of your armchair. Have you ever been out there? There's a funny little thing called the Gulf Stream that flows between the North American mainland and Bermuda. Water temperatures change incredibly fast at the north wall of the stream. I've personally witnessed it go from 6°C to 30°C in a distance of only 20 NM. What do you think that does to the weather? Add the effect of wind over current on the waves and you can get some properly nasty conditions. The same wind speed and MSWH that might only be uncomfortable in some parts of the ocean could well be deadly in the Gulf Stream.

Edited August 8, 2013 by PakledHostage

[Guest]

That's the thing about the ocean: you can do everything right, everything perfect to the letter, and it will still kill you. Your best hope is that if you're a really good navigator, you'll know exactly where you were when you died.

The Bermuda Triangle is a myth concocted around 1950. Consider that European ships have plied those waters since the late 15th century (even earlier for native boats) and there were no such mysterious stories about that particular area of the ocean prior to 1950. So yeah, it's bunk.

[zxczxczbfg]

The torpedo bombers crashed because of lack of MechJeb.

[Brethern]

Double post my bad.

Edited August 9, 2013 by Brethern

[Brethern]

Larry Kusche

Lawrence David Kusche, a research librarian from Arizona State University and author of The Bermuda Triangle Mystery: Solved (1975)[16] argued that many claims of Gaddis and subsequent writers were often exaggerated, dubious or unverifiable. Kusche's research revealed a number of inaccuracies and inconsistencies between Berlitz's accounts and statements from eyewitnesses, participants, and others involved in the initial incidents. Kusche noted cases where pertinent information went unreported, such as the disappearance of round-the-world yachtsman Donald Crowhurst, which Berlitz had presented as a mystery, despite clear evidence to the contrary. Another example was the ore-carrier recounted by Berlitz as lost without trace three days out of an Atlantic port when it had been lost three days out of a port with the same name in the Pacific Ocean. Kusche also argued that a large percentage of the incidents that sparked allegations of the Triangle's mysterious influence actually occurred well outside it. Often his research was simple: he would review period newspapers of the dates of reported incidents and find reports on possibly relevant events like unusual weather, that were never mentioned in the disappearance stories.

Kusche concluded that:

The number of ships and aircraft reported missing in the area was not significantly greater, proportionally speaking, than in any other part of the ocean.

In an area frequented by tropical storms, the number of disappearances that did occur were, for the most part, neither disproportionate, unlikely, nor mysterious;

Furthermore, Berlitz and other writers would often fail to mention such storms or even represent the disappearance as having happened in calm conditions when meteorological records clearly contradict this.

The numbers themselves had been exaggerated by sloppy research. A boat's disappearance, for example, would be reported, but its eventual (if belated) return to port may not have been.

Some disappearances had, in fact, never happened. One plane crash was said to have taken place in 1937 off Daytona Beach, Florida, in front of hundreds of witnesses; a check of the local papers revealed nothing.

The legend of the Bermuda Triangle is a manufactured mystery, perpetuated by writers who either purposely or unknowingly made use of misconceptions, faulty reasoning, and sensationalism.[16]

thanks for getting a source for me.

It is all too easy to judge from the comfort of your armchair. Have you ever been out there? There's a funny little thing called the Gulf Stream that flows between the North American mainland and Bermuda. Water temperatures change incredibly fast at the north wall of the stream. I've personally witnessed it go from 6°C to 30°C in a distance of only 20 NM. What do you think that does to the weather? Add the effect of wind over current on the waves and you can get some properly nasty conditions. The same wind speed and MSWH that might only be uncomfortable in some parts of the ocean could well be deadly in the Gulf Stream.

Actually I have been to sea. I am fully aware of what the conditions can be like. I also know what private boat owners are like. They go into conditions that they are not equipped or experienced for.

[Spacemarine658]

No magnetic anomaly would bring down a plane, or sink a boat. I'm dead certain about that. However, a massive methane buildup and release produced by, say, algae, might (by greatly lowering the density of an area of the sea and the air above it). And in fact, I seem to remember I once read that there is an area somewhere in the pacific where this kind of thing happens relatively often, thus providing a natural explanation to the Bermuda Triangle legends.

idk if anyone answered this but,

to the plane thing, false certain resonate magnetic fields can throw planes compasses out of sync and also can cause vibrations in the engines air intake resonator which if thrown out of sync will cause problems with the engine usually resulting in power loss, engine flame outs and emergency crashes/

[Spacemarine658]

That's the thing about the ocean: you can do everything right, everything perfect to the letter, and it will still kill you. Your best hope is that if you're a really good navigator, you'll know exactly where you were when you died.

The Bermuda Triangle is a myth concocted around 1950. Consider that European ships have plied those waters since the late 15th century (even earlier for native boats) and there were no such mysterious stories about that particular area of the ocean prior to 1950. So yeah, it's bunk.

true to the first part but the second part is a lie they have document proof from the 15th and 16th centuries of ships sailing in there and experiencing weird compass issues that would cost huge delays. Christopher Columbus himself avoided this area.

[Lanfranc]

true to the first part but the second part is a lie they have document proof from the 15th and 16th centuries of ships sailing in there and experiencing weird compass issues that would cost huge delays. Christopher Columbus himself avoided this area.

"Document proof"? Sources?

[Guest]

true to the first part but the second part is a lie they have document proof from the 15th and 16th centuries of ships sailing in there and experiencing weird compass issues that would cost huge delays. Christopher Columbus himself avoided this area.

Interesting. I've been studying maritime history, particularly the Golden Age of Sail, for many years now, and I'm not familiar with this "document proof" as you put it. I'd love to see the sources. Also, Columbus ran into storms while in unfamiliar waters that compounded his dodgy navigational skills, so he's not what you'd call a very reliable source.

[jwenting]

The torpedo bombers crashed because of lack of MechJeb.

or more likely a wild party in the BOQ the night before the flight

[wafflemoder]

My personal opinion is that, assuming there is a higher rate of crashes and shipwrecks. It is because of a higher rate of air and ocean traffic. If more things fly/sail though an area, more things will crash.

[jwenting]

My personal opinion is that, assuming there is a higher rate of crashes and shipwrecks. It is because of a higher rate of air and ocean traffic. If more things fly/sail though an area, more things will crash.

more in absolute numbers, not in percentage of traffic. Which is exactly what we see.

[KOCOUR]

Ah bermuda triangle fairytales. I love those stories, and stories about bigfoot, Jesus christ, chemtrails and aliens. Its so sad that they are all made up. Life would have been a lot more interesting if they were true.

[Payload]

idk if anyone answered this but,

to the plane thing, false certain resonate magnetic fields can throw planes compasses out of sync and also can cause vibrations in the engines air intake resonator which if thrown out of sync will cause problems with the engine usually resulting in power loss, engine flame outs and emergency crashes/

Dumbest thing I have heard in a week.