chobit-389 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Aye, the next generation of space travel belongs to the British. America cut too many corners and are pretty much out of the running now that NASA is focusing on probes for the next decade (plus the SLS, but they won't approve of using it until about 2020)(Since this thread moves so fast, either slow down posting or respond via quotes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonG17 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Aye, the next generation of space travel belongs to the British. America cut too many corners and are pretty much out of the running now that NASA is focusing on probes for the next decade (plus the SLS, but they won't approve of using it until about 2020)And I hope to be leading it...But we would only do that if we both change our attitude, the UKSA only wants unmanned exploration, and if we have a Labour government rather than Conservative as they spend money on things than cut things like the Conservatives. We have strong ties with space and it created lots of jobs for us, we just seem to ignore it for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShachonianX Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Which is actually an even better idea than spaceplanes. I just happen to think planes in space are cooler than trains in tubes. xDWell, both trains in tubes and planes in space are a good idea. Especially for orbital colonies. Now, what would be just as good is a ring surrounding the entire planet, and a space elevator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satcharna Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Screw conventional planets. Let's just build a planet around a star. Extremely efficient usage of massive reactors that aren't going to see much other use anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage097 Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 I just read ten pages about planes.Methinks we should change the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonG17 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Screw conventional planets. Let's just build a planet around a star. Extremely efficient usage of massive reactors that aren't going to see much other use anyway.Massive amount of resources needed for a Dyson sphere, you would need thousands of planets and it becomes useless when the star nears its red giant phase.Edit: Why, do you not like planes or even spaceplanes?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdinYggd Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Screw conventional planets. Let's just build a planet around a star. Extremely efficient usage of massive reactors that aren't going to see much other use anyway.This. It's Dyson Sphere time. My issue with spaceplanes is mostly one of questionable advantage over rockets. They don't seem to work nearly as well with larger payloads as rockets do, and economy of scale dictates that bigger is better until you start having problems with logistics and structural stability. SpaceX seems to have the satellite market in the bag at the moment, at least until Antares completes testing. Boeing is not amused about there suddenly being two competitors in the unmanned to LEO market formerly dominated by the Deltas and Russian craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satcharna Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 When it starts dying, we just drop a "stellar bomb" into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShachonianX Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Screw conventional planets. Let's just build a planet around a star. Extremely efficient usage of massive reactors that aren't going to see much other use anyway.THAT would be awesome. But, where will the resources to build such a thing come from? Interstellar mining will need to be done in order to harvest enough materials to build a custom planet. A good way this could actually be done is to put a strong center of gravity in the asteroid belt. Asteroids will be pulled towards it, and will slowly form a a proto-planet. After an even longer time, it may become a full fledged planet. Of course, this will take probably a billion years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage097 Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 Massive amount of resources needed for a Dyson sphere, you would need thousands of planets and it becomes useless when the star nears its red giant phase.Edit: Why, do you not like planes or even spaceplanes?!?!? I never said I didn't like 'em.I just think 10 pages of planes is a tad much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satcharna Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 You can never have too much planes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chobit-389 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I just think 10 pages of planes is a tad much.*growls and starts beating you to death with her old flight helmet* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonG17 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 This. It's Dyson Sphere time. My issue with spaceplanes is mostly one of questionable advantage over rockets. They don't seem to work nearly as well with larger payloads as rockets do, and economy of scale dictates that bigger is better until you start having problems with logistics and structural stability. SpaceX seems to have the satellite market in the bag at the moment, at least until Antares completes testing. Boeing is not amused about there suddenly being two competitors in the unmanned to LEO market formerly dominated by the Deltas and Russian craft.The main fact is that they are much cheaper to get things into Orbit with and have less debris. They could build interplanetary ships in orbit through docking! And what about Skylon?Planes are the best! If you say otherwise, I will kill you with my many plane models, metal, K'nex or Airfix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satcharna Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 But they're not really all that much cheaper, is what we're saying. And interplanetary ships would be easier to build from a space station than from a space plane. That's what Roskosmos were planning to do for their Mars mission last I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekkette Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I dunno, the planes conversation may be driving me back to writing. Or to drink, one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage097 Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 You can never have too much planes! unless they're insane planes. Anywho wasn't that thing in Halo Wars a Dyson Sphere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonG17 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Once the upfront costs are done, then there would be minor repairs and fuel refuelling, no need to build a new rocket. And the space planes can put all the parts up for both the ship and station.Edit: It was a shield world designed to protect species from the effect of the Halo rings.And go back to writing, not drinking Trekkette! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekes Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage097 Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 Holy crap guys! Almost 500 posts!(Or by the time of posting over 500)Edit: @zekes: O.O woah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flixxbeatz Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Ok.*throws Gilly* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekkette Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 And go back to writing, not drinking Trekkette!But... alcohol! I can't write until I get Chobit to give me an answer to a highly important question. Otherwise this scene will simply not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonG17 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Ok.*Calls down the full wrath of all the airforces in the world down onto zekes*Edit: But liver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekkette Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Edit: But liver!Fear not, my liver is safe. (For today!) Chobit's answering my questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonG17 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Perhaps keep it in a glass jar when you drink alcohol then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdinYggd Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Small amounts of alcohol aren't harmful when enjoyed responsibly. In fact some forms such as red wine can lead to health benefits, as they are often enjoyed in a relaxing environment with a good meal and family/friends to have fun with. The reduction in stress is shown to more than offset any ill effects from the alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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