"Armed Chinese Troops in Texas!" video on YouTube

[ForumHelper]

I\'ve just seen this and thought I should share it with you, in my opinion it\'s amazing. I\'m not from the US myself, however it\'s still interesting:)

[your mom]

is this real or just an advertisement for Ron Paul....

and for some reason that video reminded me of homefront

[Hypocee]

Good, can\'t think of a better place for them to be.

[rdfox]

Hooray, fearmongering! Ron Paul can kiss my ass.

[NovaSilisko]

I can\'t help but agree with the dislike of american military bases all over the world, but... Yeah, fear mongering.

[ryacko]

Sounds more like Red Dawn.

[Warshawski]

Which they are remaking... with armed chinese troops.

[Guest GroundHOG-2010]

Sounds like a good idea for a game.

But really. This is essentually why america will go bankrupt (yet they still cut nasa budget to put into the military?).

[Howson]

Sounds like a good idea for a game.

But really. This is essentially why America will go bankrupt (yet they still cut NASA budget to put into the military?).

It\'s called Homefront, but it\'s North Korea not China

This advertisement is for a presidential Candidate that will actually make some major changes, like balancing the budget in 3 years

[Johno]

Okay, I\'m Australian and not American. So some of the nuances will be lost on me no doubt. But to me it seemed like the very opposite of fearmongering.

In case you\'re wondering, if you watch the entire video, Senator Paul is NOT saying 'elect me or there will be Chinese bases in Texas'. His point is rather more clever than that. He\'s putting you in the place of, say, a citizen of Iraq; and he\'s asking you what you\'d do. He\'s showing you that the 'insurgents' may well be doing just what you\'d do if you were in their shoes, and demonstrating how offensive current American foreign policy appears to people from overseas.

I am from overseas, though I have a fairly similar culture and language. I can back up what he says - your foreign policy is seen AT BEST as being a good-natured bull in a china shop, and at worst as a spoiled bully getting what he wants by violence[1].

Worse, as an ally of the USA we send our boys to the same trouble spots. Some of them die by accident from the bullets of their friends (not as many as the black humour would have you think, admittedly - but nevertheless the problem is real). Also they come home saying that after they go in and respectfully earn the trust of the local people, an American squad comes in and throws their weight around, undoing much of the good work they\'ve done.

No, he\'s not fearmongering. Not at all. As far as I can tell, this guy is right on the money.

I know little else about him. For all I know he might be no good on any other issue; but I have to tell you that on this one he would seem to be quite persuasive.

[1] Whether this is an accurate idea of what is happening or not is a separate issue. This is very definitely the perception.

[Hypocee]

You\'re correct; that is the perception, and the perception is quite accurate. America\'s got a bad case of imperialism, and we may be in the death throes at this point. 'How would you feel if it were happening here?' is a fine message. However, I assume you\'re familiar with 'dog-whistle' politics? I\'m pretty confident there\'s another payload on that ad.

For the past three years I\'ve worked in a small room with, no way around it, a neurotypical nutcase. If it\'s contrary to what liberals, scientists or THE GOVERNMENT says, he\'s in. Young-Earth Creationist. Bircher. Takes his colloidal silver, his patented herbal heart drops and his megadose omega supplements every day. Most relevantly he plays the Genesis Communications Network (wink wink) all day, particularly his favorite show, Alex Jones... where Rand Paul drops in every few weeks for a long chat as one of Jones\' favorite guests, alongside such luminaries as the Loose Change guys, the Christian Dominionist politician of the day, professional Holocaust denier David [Ed, derp] Irving, rich hobbyist climate change denier Lord Monckton, and a pump-and-dump precious metals merchant. Also every few weeks, Jones finds some way to mention that the National Guard is running roadblock checkpoints in Texas - always in Texas - in cooperation with ARMED MEXICAN TROOPS to practice for the implementation of MARTIAL LAW axross America by the ZioniJst tnEternaWtional baSnkers and their military body, the UN. Keeping Texans worried about foreigners entering illegally much? Dog-whistle messaging isn\'t about persuading the target audience that something is true, so the ad can be explicitly fictional and still achieve its purpose. The method is to repeatedly state that something is true, then move on. You can admit it\'s false a second later. That one second of shock is what matters. Invasion invasion invasion. Commies\'n\'Jews. Fnord fnord fnord.

Internet Anarchists don\'t like to admit that that\'s Paul\'s crowd. Yes, he\'s for withdrawing from Iraq and reducing our ridiculous military expenditures...as one facet of eliminating the Federal government. He and his fellow Jesusland wranglers are in the business of saying things that are 95% reasonable, then covertly applying that final spin into reverse. Yes, the invasion of Iraq was a war crime that must stop. Yes, police forces inevitably abuse their power sometimes, and have recently been allowed to do it more. Yes, a small cartel of banks have a corrupt Congress at their heel. You\'re right, Rand Paul, what shall we do about that? Repeal the Civil Rights Act, give all law enforcement power to local warbandsmilitia, eliminate the SEC and all corporate taxes, and change our currency back to the gold standard that a much smaller cartel can control completely.

...What?

[mojoey]

maybe im nit picking here, but when they did the shadow outline of the foreign troops, note not ONE of the guns looked like an AK (standard Gun of the chinese and russian militaries) but looked instead like the barrel of an M-16. When people get sick of the things this government has done for years, i wont be suprised to see american troops in the streets. Sometimes its not whats outside, its whats inside that could be dangerous. I would infact be one to fight off anyone who tried to invade the US. And Closing bases around the world, is NOT how to do it.

EDIT: after doing some googling, it seems that one Naval carrier is enough to deter violent activities. Sending our Fathers and Mothers and Sisters and Brothers And Sons and Daughters to fight a loosing ground is not how to keep the world in check.

[Howson]

Okay, I\'m Australian and not American. So some of the nuances will be lost on me no doubt. But to me it seemed like the very opposite of fearmongering.

In case you\'re wondering, if you watch the entire video, Senator Paul is NOT saying 'elect me or there will be Chinese bases in Texas'. His point is rather more clever than that. He\'s putting you in the place of, say, a citizen of Iraq; and he\'s asking you what you\'d do. He\'s showing you that the 'insurgents' may well be doing just what you\'d do if you were in their shoes, and demonstrating how offensive current American foreign policy appears to people from overseas.

I am from overseas, though I have a fairly similar culture and language. I can back up what he says - your foreign policy is seen AT BEST as being a good-natured bull in a china shop, and at worst as a spoiled bully getting what he wants by violence[1].

Worse, as an ally of the USA we send our boys to the same trouble spots. Some of them die by accident from the bullets of their friends (not as many as the black humour would have you think, admittedly - but nevertheless the problem is real). Also they come home saying that after they go in and respectfully earn the trust of the local people, an American squad comes in and throws their weight around, undoing much of the good work they\'ve done.

No, he\'s not fearmongering. Not at all. As far as I can tell, this guy is right on the money.

I know little else about him. For all I know he might be no good on any other issue; but I have to tell you that on this one he would seem to be quite persuasive.

[1] Whether this is an accurate idea of what is happening or not is a separate issue. This is very definitely the perception.

He\'s a Congressman not a Senator. Other than that you are right on the money

[DoctorEvo]

Okay, I\'m Australian and not American. So some of the nuances will be lost on me no doubt. But to me it seemed like the very opposite of fearmongering.

In case you\'re wondering, if you watch the entire video, Senator Paul is NOT saying 'elect me or there will be Chinese bases in Texas'. His point is rather more clever than that. He\'s putting you in the place of, say, a citizen of Iraq; and he\'s asking you what you\'d do. He\'s showing you that the 'insurgents' may well be doing just what you\'d do if you were in their shoes, and demonstrating how offensive current American foreign policy appears to people from overseas.

Wait... so you\'re saying... we ARE the China in this analogy?!

(But seriously, thanks for clearing that up. I feel like the people who missed it didn\'t listen to the entire message.)

maybe im nit picking here, but when they did the shadow outline of the foreign troops, note not ONE of the guns looked like an AK (standard Gun of the chinese and russian militaries) but looked instead like the barrel of an M-16.

The Chinese shoot the QBZ-95 now.

[Reflector]

FUD.