Stranding in the moon

[Pawelk198604]

I have problem with lading manually on the moon, I already did in the past, but it was quite a long time ago and I lost my skills.

My brother come every Sunday with kids with kids to have family dinner. Last time i show him KSP mun lading, I show him KSP but he said it's to nerdy and to complex for him, but he liked watching mun lading.

In last time i want to impress my bro and do it manually, several time crash and crew died, my bro teased he said that i'm worst astronaut he ever saw:)

But finally i made i landed, almost I lost descent and ascent stage Mk2 Lander-can was unharmed and crew survived, but kerbals cannot leave the mun and dock with CSM on orbit. My brother summed up his view that such fate is worse than death, awareness that they would never leave the surface of the moon, it's good that it's just a game that you do not want such to be an astronaut.

Well fortunately I have F9 button and MechJeb2

Conversation with my brot forced me to think about what NASA had planned, if Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin could not leave the moon.

[dagothar]

If the mission were doomed, they planned to shut down communication. The president already had a speech prepared for that case: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193732/President-Nixon-The-moving-speech-delivered-Apollo-11-astronauts-return.html

In one review, when asked how he would spend his last minutes knowing that he would be stranded on the Moon, Aldrin said that he'd try to fix the engine to the end.

[Sᴄɪɴᴛɪʟʟᴀᴛᴏʀ]

If I was stranded on the moon... I'd be unable to post this.

In all seriousness though, the whole idea is very dark. I can't imagine being stuck up there.

[rpayne88]

Can you blame him? I'd be trying to do the same thing. If there was a snowball's chance in hell that I could get back after such a disaster, I'd be trying it.

[Astrobug]

Kerbals stranded on Mun?

Publicize your intrepid new Munar colony!

On the subject of the Apollo landings, though, I believe what they had planned was a speech. The LEM ascent stage had no backup and, IIRC, was impossible to test beforehand. So if something didn't fire, there would be a permanent change of address.

[Motokid600]

As you ran out of air... What would you do? Just suffocate? I might take my helmet off... Actually..Idk you'd probably black out soon as you broke the seal. Exposing yourself to the void... I can't think of a worse death.

[OtherDalfite]

As you ran out of air... What would you do? Just suffocate? I might take my helmet off... Actually..Idk you'd probably black out soon as you broke the seal. Exposing yourself to the void... I can't think of a worse death.

It actually wouldn't be that bad. So long as you didn't hold your breath, it would be completely painless. Terrifying, but painless.

[Jenteb07]

So there were no Cyanide pills on board then?

[OtherDalfite]

So there were no Cyanide pills on board then?

Nope, russian craft only. Though, those were quickly taken out after the first few flights.

[Scotius]

That is a dark fate indeed, and we should forever respect anyone brave enough to face such end. And that's why i never leave my kerbals without rescue. There is fully fueled rescue craft of proven and reliable design standing-by in orbit when i send kerballed missions to the moons. Similiar crafts are sent to key locations in system (Duna, Jool), and docked to local space stations/fuel depots. Missions to the worlds outside SAR network are handled by probes until i have enough infrastructure in place.

[Brabbit1987]

I would play bingo. Bingo is a fun game.

XD

All jokes aside, I would cry. That would be my first reaction to being stranded on the moon.

[BaneOfPilots]

As you ran out of air... What would you do? Just suffocate? I might take my helmet off... Actually..Idk you'd probably black out soon as you broke the seal. Exposing yourself to the void... I can't think of a worse death.

According to National Geographic, you would be conscious for 10 seconds and be unconscious for 80 seconds. So you mostly wouldn't feel or know you died.

[OtherDalfite]

According to National Geographic, you would be conscious for 10 seconds and be unconscious for 80 seconds. So you mostly wouldn't feel or know you died.

Oh you'd know. But not for long. You would have a good 45 seconds before you were doomed. Your blood pressure would start to rise at the moment of decompression, and depending on what you have been breathing, you could develop a severe case of ebbulism. This is caused by gas expanding in your blood(as water does at the top of a peak), and would ultimately lead to either oxygen deprivation or a heart attack.

[unWinged]

Oh you'd know. But not for long. You would have a good 45 seconds before you were doomed. Your blood pressure would start to rise at the moment of decompression, and depending on what you have been breathing, you could develop a severe case of ebbulism. This is caused by gas expanding in your blood(as water does at the top of a peak), and would ultimately lead to either oxygen deprivation or a heart attack.

IIRC you would loose consciousness after 10 seconds, like BaneOfPilots said. So not that bad.

During Soyuz 11 mission one of cosmonauts died (his heart stopped) 40 seconds after depressurization, and hole was only 1mm in diameter...

But there was only few cases when people died from exposure to vacuum, so little research material is available...

[OtherDalfite]

IIRC you would loose consciousness after 10 seconds, like BaneOfPilots said. So not that bad.

During Soyuz 11 mission one of cosmonauts died (his heart stopped) 40 seconds after depressurization, and hole was only 1mm in diameter...

But there was only few cases when people died from exposure to vacuum, so little research material is available...

There was an incident long ago when testing an EVA suit, there was a leak, and the astronaut inside fell unconcious only seconds after realizing something was wrong. Luckily this was on Earth in a pressure chamber, so they were able to save him.

[Motokid600]

But for that 10 seconds... which is a long time... What would you feel? What does space feel like? I can't help, but think of that scene in the movie Sunshine. The airlock broke appart and the crew had to exchange craft essentially naked. They insulated as best they could, then it was just slowly let your breath put and hope for the best...didn't work out to well for one guy.

[unWinged]

I think that you don't feel space. After all it's vacuum.

You can feel effects of it, and I think that would be a lot of pain.

Joseph Kittinger felt it when during one jump in Project Excelsior his glove depressurized. He was lucky to live and tell about it.

Edited June 4, 2013 by unWinged
fixing typo

[SmallChange]

Conversation with my brot forced me to think about what NASA had planned, if Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin could not leave the moon.

As dagothar pointed out, Nixon had a speech ready to go for JUST YOUR scenario!

Next time that happens, clear your throat and look somberly at your brother and say: (Substituting the appropriate terms where necessary)

"Fate has ordained that the men who went to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the moon to rest in peace.

These brave men, Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin, know that there is no hope for their recovery. But they also know that there is hope for mankind in their sacrifice.

These two men are laying down their lives in mankind's most noble goal: the search for truth and understanding.

They will be mourned by their families and friends; they will be mourned by their nation; they will be mourned by the people of the world; they will be mourned by a Mother Earth that dared send two of her sons into the unknown.

In their exploration, they stirred the people of the world to feel as one; in their sacrifice, they bind more tightly the brotherhood of man.

In ancient days, men looked at stars and saw their heroes in the constellations. In modern times, we do much the same, but our heroes are epic men of flesh and blood.

Others will follow and surely find their way home. Man's search will not be denied. But these men were the first, and they will remain the foremost in our hearts.

For every human being who looks up at the moon in the nights to come will know that there is some corner of another world that is forever mankind."

[Sapphire]

But for that 10 seconds... which is a long time... What would you feel? What does space feel like? I can't help, but think of that scene in the movie Sunshine. The airlock broke appart and the crew had to exchange craft essentially naked. They insulated as best they could, then it was just slowly let your breath put and hope for the best...didn't work out to well for one guy.

Glad I'm not the only one who found that scene uncomfortable.

Skin is better at protecting you than you'd think. You could survive the heat or cold for a short time, but you'd quickly run out of air (omg no wai) and get the bends.

[Scotius]

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacesuits.php

Go to the Skinsuits section. Cool stuff, but i would completely freak out if someone put me into one of these, and made go EVA.