[0.25]KSP Interstellar (Magnetic Nozzles, ISRU Revamp) Version 0.13

[MrWizerd]

I disagree with having to grind out every single experiment in the game. Collecting science at the moment is a pretty tedious thing to do, and in no way fun if you go to such extremes. Maybe a kind of alternate way to unlock the node like have a ship land and take off of 3-4 planets rewards you a few thousand science (assuming 50k warp). I'd much rather see big rewards for setting up a functional colony and sat network through MKS and RT2 respectively, though I really doubt Fractal wants to make this mod dependent on others to get its trademark feature.

I sort of agree with you on that point, in both points actually, it is frustrating that setting up a Satellite network doesn't get ANY reward. I mean I drop four sats in geosync orbit, to give perfect coverage off of my really sad sack of com sats (four com32's and four 90mm dishes with two large solar panels and an engine and control wheels) My normal setup has the giga deployable dish, and 8 KR 14's around Kerbin, and these little pissant ones set me back all of my 150k or 1500k I dont remember were the decimal point was, but suffice to say, I launched these sats as soon as I could because I need to setup planetary mining facilities to gain money if I am going to be setting up sat networks and such and need the coverage to just START to do this! So I go to look at my missions trying to find out why there not completing and I find that the only way I am going to pass the chute tests is with a Spaceplane, beacuse I am not sure I can make these altitudes at these speeds, after trying for 4 or so hours I am positive that I cannot get a pod to do under 700ms at 23-19k alt. So making more grinding is a bad thing I think... long story short.

[Dangerous_Beans]

I think there has to be a way to upgrade still but there be a cost of some sort involved.

if you can make it require resources, you could have an upgrade pod that contains the resources needed to upgrade other things? you could also link the upgrade functionality to the pod.

so once you can build gas core fission reactors, you send up an upgrade pod, dock it to the craft with the old reactors and use the pod to upgrade it. the pod can only do the upgrades available when you launched it, so you can't have a pod launched before the gas core upgrade was researched do a gas core upgrade. make each pod only able to do one ship, or maybe some number of parts, and also require a kerbal on EVA. also have most of the cost be the resource, not the pod part.

so instead of clicking on my reactor out in Eeloo orbit and upgrading it, i have to send a kerbal out with a box of parts. it also costs money instead of science, and requires you to design craft capable of being upgraded.

[Lubergo]

Is anyone having some major problems with the .24.1 update today and interstellar? Engines appear to be firing but aren't, similar to the old b9 sabre bug, except engine flames fire out in two directions. Also the interstellar parts don't seem to have collision, they just fall through the launch pad, and ships that have interstellar parts float apart in space.

[AetherGoddess]

an upgrade pod...

I usually avoid prescribing things because 1) it feels somewhat disrespectful to the creator's artistic license and original conception, and 2) i'm usually much more impressed by what that authors come up with independently. Fractal and Wavefunction have consistently surprised and impressed me with what this mod provides. now, ignoring all of that, I think this particular idea has merit.

I like the idea of an "Retrofit Kit", containing all the tools, parts, materials, etc to retrofit gear on orbit. you could create a new resource for retrofitting parts, only purchasable from the VAB/SPH (mining improved Heisenberg compensators? not a thing; but field manufacturing maybe?) and each part that was upgraded could consume a certain amount of this resource, based on the tech level from and to, and the size and complexity of the part. maybe the 3.5m dusty plasma fusion reactor takes 1000 retrofit parts, say 10 1 meter retrofitting kits, but a small graphite heat radiator only takes 10 parts, 1/10th of a full sized kit, maybe a small side mount thing? There seems to be sufficent preceident. "outside" parts like radiators, solar panels, sensors, etc might require EVA, whereas inside parts like generators, reactors, etc could be done without getting off the boat.

Obviously the computer core would still require only science and time, because the poetry of that is undeniable. Sentience requires only sufficient knowledge refined by introspection and reflection.

[Talavar]

While were being inventive, to get the antimatter parts, Make a probe at 750 AU call it an alien craft, and its where you get the technology from. Bring it home, and it unlocks the AM capabilities.

[Excavus]

Having the same problems here. Tried to put a science lab on one of my rockets, and it just fell through the launch pad. Luckily I hadn't used many Interstellar parts since then.

[Nightdagger]

Is anyone having some major problems with the .24.1 update today and interstellar? Engines appear to be firing but aren't, similar to the old b9 sabre bug, except engine flames fire out in two directions. Also the interstellar parts don't seem to have collision, they just fall through the launch pad, and ships that have interstellar parts float apart in space.

http://i.imgur.com/3hOK5Xw.jpg

Yes, I scratched my head repeatedly over why my microwave transceiver that I was putting into my new nuclear transmitter was falling through and crashing into the landing pad when I tried to launch it. Then, I went to scrap an old nuclear satellite I had in orbit and watched it fly into three separate pieces even though it was still considered one part by KSP. And just now I built a new nuclear transmitter (with the transceiver strapped on with about half a dozen struts) and got it settled in only to find out that not only is it not producing any power, but none of the statistics are there, any of the fields with a gauge are there but the core temp, the power production, any field that's a digital display are completely blank, it doesn't even display. Also, a retrofit button was available on the reactor, and when I clicked it, it ate 200 science and told me it was a gas core reactor (interesting since I don't have fusion power unlocked yet...) but still did nothing but sit there like a gigantic, expensive tin can.

Patch seems to have broke stuffs.

[NeoAcario]

My initial thought was to raise the price of upgraded parts to something like 4x cost... but then I had to consider the fact that you cannot use un-upgraded parts once you unlock the upgrade. Would it be at all possible to add a tweakable setting to use an item un-upgraded?

~Steve

[Dal]

Same 24.1 issue, looking forward (patiently and gratefully) for a fix.

[Kesselya]

I'm having similar issues, plus I can't get any amount of power to be put out by my reactors, and my helium-cooled IR Telescope has shut down because I can never get the 8kw of power to be recognized.

[WaveFunctionP]

New compile for .24.1

API for resources changed a bit, I had to edit the plugin code to fix the error. It compiled, hopefully that will be good enough. I did no testing.

Let me know if there are any issues.

[merendel]

I'll try your new compile soon as I to was haveing some weird issues. Some parts would fall through ships or fall off ships. The small reactors were particularly bad. I was trying to launch a new station module with a small nuke reactor instead of other power methods and the ship would suffer a spontanious dissassembly at 6km. Another ship out in solar orbit had its reactor just fall off when I switched to it to perform a manuver. Swaping out the reactor on the station module for conventional solar pannles allowed it to launch although there wasnt much else from KSPI on the thing.

To be clear these issues were with your 24.0 compile after .24.1 update dropped, haven't tried your new one yet.

[Excavus]

Tried your update, Wave, seems to work so far. The science lab isn't falling through the launchpad anymore which is good news. Haven't tried anything else yet.

[Kesselya]

Thank you, Wave. My Interstellar parts are working as intended again. They aren't doing what I want them to do, but that's because I suck at designing space stations, and not because the mod is broken

[Atrius129]

New compile for .24.1

API for resources changed a bit, I had to edit the plugin code to fix the error. It compiled, hopefully that will be good enough. I did no testing.

Let me know if there are any issues.

I tried your new release and it doesn't seem to have solved the reactor issue. It seems like nothing will produce megajoules. I was having issues with my reactors collapsing into the spacecraft before, but I forgot to take the clamps off while testing it here.

It's kind of funny. I had just unlocked the Vista engines, this playthrough, so this was one of the first ships to actually use reactors. I was going crazy trying to get them to work earlier. Glad to see I am not the only one having the same issues.

Has anybody noticed the aerodynamics being weird too? I know FAR updated very quickly, but spaceplanes that were working for me perfectly last night are flipping around crazily today. I wonder if it has anything to do with the Firespitter.dll still posting as being out of date.

[WaveFunctionP]

You'll have to be more specific about your issue if I am to investigate it. "nothing will produce megajoules" leads me to believe user error. No offense. Bonus points if you post a log of the errors, preferably with no other addons installed.

[Stage]

I would like to see KSPI use Water (like TACLS) instead of LqdWater for compatability.

Would it be possible for you to change that one ressource of KSPI?

There was a MM config for this, but native support would be much better.

Otherwise thanks for updating

[smart013]

Hi, same here more or less. At first i had the problem that the small fission reactor in my orbital station was slowly drifting away after the game loaded the vessel. Not good. But i had a savegame, so no biggy. And your last update fixed this. But now the reactor is still running and in place, but the generator says "no reactor" and shuts down. Granted, the reactor and the generator are NOT directly connected (one part is between them) but up until yesterday that worked without problems.

Hope i could help and a fix is possible ..

PS: Your last fix was fast and a godsend for my really expensive Station. Thank you for that!

I'll try your new compile soon as I to was haveing some weird issues. Some parts would fall through ships or fall off ships. The small reactors were particularly bad. I was trying to launch a new station module with a small nuke reactor instead of other power methods and the ship would suffer a spontanious dissassembly at 6km. Another ship out in solar orbit had its reactor just fall off when I switched to it to perform a manuver. Swaping out the reactor on the station module for conventional solar pannles allowed it to launch although there wasnt much else from KSPI on the thing.

To be clear these issues were with your 24.0 compile after .24.1 update dropped, haven't tried your new one yet.

[WaveFunctionP]

Hi, same here more or less. At first i had the problem that the small fission reactor in my orbital station was slowly drifting away after the game loaded the vessel. Not good. But i had a savegame, so no biggy. And your last update fixed this. But now the reactor is still running and in place, but the generator says "no reactor" and shuts down. Granted, the reactor and the generator are NOT directly connected (one part is between them) but up until yesterday that worked without problems.

Hope i could help and a fix is possible ..

PS: Your last fix was fast and a godsend for my really expensive Station. Thank you for that!

If your generator was working while not directly connected to a reactor then that was a bug.

[Nightdagger]

I'll load up a save game (unfortunately it won't be with Interstellar as the only mod, but I'm running minimal others) and set up a quick and dirty reactor so I can get you an error log.

[Nightdagger]

Nevermind - your patch seems to have fixed the reactor bug for me, I tested multiple sizes and types of fission reactor (unfortunately I do not have fusion or AM to test with yet) and all seem to work.

Thank you very much for the quick fix, WaveFunctionP! KSPI has quickly become one of my "must have" mods for this game and having it broken trashes the desire to play for me.

Edited July 25, 2014 by Nightdagger
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[smart013]

Each generator directly attached to the reactor?

Nevermind - your patch seems to have fixed the reactor bug for me, I tested multiple sizes and types of fission reactor (unfortunately I do not have fusion or AM to test with yet) and all seem to work.

Thank you very much for the quick fix, WaveFunctionP! KSPI has quickly become one of my "must have" mods for this game and having it broken trashes the desire to play for me.

[Nightdagger]

Each generator directly attached to the reactor?

Yeah, I didn't try it without the generators attached directly to the reactors, since that's not how they're supposed to work to begin with. I was testing to see if they worked at all, because prior to this patch nuclear reactors did absolutely nothing, they weren't even properly recognized as reactors.

[smart013]

Ah, i see. So my working reactor is a bug thats now fixed, aka not working

Ok, time to unpack the solar panels.

[Physic]

The experimental build crashes my game on the 64 bit version but not the 32 bit. Anyone else getting this?

Thanks for all the work on this mod.