Guest meteorite 101 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Kreuger flaps are entirely different, used for delaying stall. Flaperons are the name for combined flaps and ailerons, again completely different. What he\'s suggesting is a rare design that works a lot better in KSP than IRL, but there are aircraft that have similar things. Probably the best example is the Sukhoi T-50, though in this case they\'re more for engine management and stall delay than control:You can see at the leading edge wing root, the wing appears to be separated and pointed down. This is what he means by an 'in-line canard'; a forward control surface that is part of the main wing.Granted, those and the ones on the outer wing -are- actually kreuger flaps, which -do- behave differently, but this shows the idea of the in-line canard best.that jet is a photo shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC3craze Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 that jet is a photo shop No its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPFlyer Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Nope, real deal. It\'s also known as the PAK-FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cepheus Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 That\'s just, like, your opinion, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarkun Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 After coming to conclusion that I have 3 different fuel tanks (1 rcs + 2 liquid), and no way to make the center of mass immobile with the 0.4 design, I\'ve decided to upgrade and do an ASAS module for her. It sits where the docking module will go, I guess now it will sit atop of the ASAS.I\'ve modelled and coded the RCS thrusters, am 50% done with the textures... I\'m getting there I\'m not going to be fiddling with her on my own forever though - I plan to release her this weekend and tweak her according to the Voice Of The Public Orbit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico88 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Looks nice, it seemes we\'ll have a lot of shuttle testing at the weekend. (Slew\'s shuttle is going to be released this weekend as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cepheus Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 There go my plans for this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venku122 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 There go my plans for this weekend.My plans were to play KSP so JACKPOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarkun Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Shuttle is out!Download link: here or in the first post - (I\'ll do a proper update later).There are two craft files related to Hope in the pack - shuttle itself and one mounted atop of an Able Class Rocket. It\'s enough to put the Hope in low Kerbin Orbit with full fuel tanks.Try her and tell me what you think - I\'ll be working on her flight characteristics and new parts in the near future.Final note - a few parts are kind of polygon heavy - especially the RCS tanks - may take them a while to load for the first time. All the parts were tested on my two not-so-powerfull laptops, and were running pretty smooth so you should be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYJ Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Your shuttle decoupler/adapter has fuelcrossfeed set to true, causing the main rocket to drain the shuttles fuel. I\'m guessing that this wasn\'t done on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryo Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 why is there no ASAS for Baker? its horrible to land this thing on moon. Besides of that, its awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedwedianPresident Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Here is an Album with photos of an Sub-Orbital flight of the Hope. The Hope can be launched with my LASC - Low Altitude Spacecraft Carrier.http://imgur.com/a/lrejb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubru Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 My favourite of the two(?) other shuttles. Easiest to fly, and the best-looking too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splendid Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I don\'t like the shuttle too much, I mean it\'s great, but one wrong pitch and you\'re done for, it\'ll spin on for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonJames Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Made it in to a concentric(+/-100m) Mun orbit with your Able+Hope.craft with easily enough fuel to get back. I absolutely love this mod pack, thank you sarkun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarkun Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 Your shuttle decoupler/adapter has fuelcrossfeed set to true, causing the main rocket to drain the shuttles fuel. I\'m guessing that this wasn\'t done on purpose.Fixed. Download link updated.I\'ll upload the pack to Kerbal Space Yard once I\'m able to login into it again.why is there no ASAS for Baker? its horrible to land this thing on moon. Besides of that, its awesome I wanted to make it balanced with the base game parts - the ASAS weights an additional 1 ton - that\'s a lot for a light lander like the Baker.I don\'t like the shuttle too much, I mean it\'s great, but one wrong pitch and you\'re done for, it\'ll spin on for ever.If you get into a spin with full fuel tanks then yeah... you\'re probably done for. Not that the original space shuttles were spin certified. The Hope can recover from a spin if the tanks are empty though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryo Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I wanted to make it balanced with the base game parts - the ASAS weights an additional 1 ton - that\'s a lot for a light lander like the Baker.well but it should be optional. I would rather make Baker little heavier and have ASAS^^I play with keyboard and its hard to land it without ASAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comradephil Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I must say, hope is the best of all the small shuttles so far, vanguard and AUSPLANE have their charm, but this one just handles like a dream! Even at supersonic speeds it doesn\'t spin wildly out of control, it\'s just almost impossible to manoevre, which is just fine by me I built a carrier plane for it, to take it into the stratosphere and launch from there, most fun I\'ve had in a while in KSP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest meteorite 101 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 i have a question i need to ask Why dose the Able class fist stage LRB engine has a bad wobble problem and how do i control hope and i know how to control RCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polecat Industries Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 i have a question i need to ask Why dose the Able class fist stage LRB engine has a bad wobble problem and how do i control hope and i know how to control RCS Because it is gimballing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarkun Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 i have a question i need to ask Why dose the Able class fist stage LRB engine has a bad wobble problem and how do i control hope and i know how to control RCS I haven\'t notices any out-of the ordinary wobbling on the Able - perhaps you have a slow computer/launch at 2x warp?Regarding the hope - you control her like you would any unpowered, heavy shuttle - gently.I\'m thinking about making some training videos, but apparently I suck at directing ;-) Besides I\'d rather be modeling. If anyone wishes to make some videos of flying the Hope Shuttle, I\'d be very glad to stick them to the first post on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunlake Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Thank God!. I think it is the first good-looking shuttle. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gojira Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I love this and the Vanguard, nice work.KSP really IS going into a shuttle age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaborn111 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I\'ve attempted a couple times now, but i cant land the thing. i\'m coming in with an empty fuel tank, low angle of attack but i can\'t get the nose to come up even with RCS. i still end up with much too fast descent and smoosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gojira Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 AlsoWhat defines a gliding landing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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