KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I think you need to read the orion document again. Casabla Howetzer was NARROWING the beam of the orion shells, to try and get more range out of them.I am implying what is referred to as a "modification" which does exactly as I described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 the c#vast majority of Lasers are at the same sort of wavelengths as visible light; the power just comes from having more photons. If a field doesn't deflect photons, it doesn't deflect photons, it wouldn't make any difference how many there are. No, it was intended to project a fine jet of plasma, hence the capacity to destroy things. A 'blanket' of plasma would disperse to uselessness incredibly quickly.Yes, the ORIGINAL was designed to do this. But it was obvious, as I know much more about the Orion project than you, that I was implying a modification. And "blanket" was in quotes for a reason. It is slightly wider and designed to "shoot" a "jet" that widens as it goes farther, or something along those lines. But seriously, you think you know more than me? Are you 8 years old? Maybe 10, or more likely 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 But seriously, you think you knowm ore than meYes. Based on my experience of talking to you, yes, yes I do. Would anybody else in this thread like to back me up on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I am amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yes. Based on my experience of talking to you, yes, yes I do. Would anybody else in this thread like to back me up on that?Do you know what Quantum Foam is? How far away is Aldebaran? What's the speed of light (in vac)? What causes ALL CHEMICAL REACTIONS between atoms? Do you know what a Tokamak is? Did you grasp the majority of the Quantum Theory in 6th grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I am amazed.On what in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Um, then why did Little Boy use over 140 pounds of nuclear material and have 1% efficiency? Compared to what Kryten claims (15 pounds in Fat Man, 10 times the efficiency).Little Boy was a gun-type weapon, so the Uranium 235 was brought together as a critical mass in an uncompressed state.Fat Man was an implosion design, so the Plutonium was compressed and held together longer by the spherical implosion wave and tamper. Much more efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakaydos Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Do you know what Quantum Foam is? How far away is Aldebaran? What's the speed of light (in vac)? What causes ALL CHEMICAL REACTIONS between atoms? Do you know what a Tokamak is? Did you grasp the majority of the Quantum Theory in 6th grade?Isnt quantum foam something to do with spontaneous generation of sub-nanoscopic black holes below Plank length? I'd have to look it up to be sure. Dont know the exact number for the speed of light, but chemical reactions are caused by the electron clouds, not the nucleus, which is what makes quantum dots work. Tokomok is the term for torodal fusion devices, something about being able to compress a plasma magnetically in a circle, then capping the ends with more circles until you wrap it around to where you started.My turn. What's the difference between an alpha particle and a gamma ray? What does LASER stand for and how is the light it produces differet from "normal" light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Isnt quantum foam something to do with spontaneous generation of sub-nanoscopic black holes below Plank length? I'd have to look it up to be sure. Dont know the exact number for the speed of light, but chemical reactions are caused by the electron clouds, not the nucleus, which is what makes quantum dots work. Tokomok is the term for torodal fusion devices, something about being able to compress a plasma magnetically in a circle, then capping the ends with more circles until you wrap it around to where you started.My turn. What's the difference between an alpha particle and a gamma ray? What does LASER stand for and how is the light it produces differet from "normal" light?Alpha particles are free flying Helium particles, basically. Getting more deeply into it, they lack two electrons.Gamma rays are pure energy, on a very high wavelength.Beta rays are free-flying electrons.What LASER stands for, well, I'm not entirely sure, I would have to look it up, Idon't commit that kind of stuff to memory.A laser is not a maser, though.Laser light is more uniform than normal light. Much more focused.Now:What is a valance electron?What is Quantum Entanglement?Why are the elements where they are on a Periodic Table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 What is a valance electron?Why are the elements where they are on a Periodic Table? I'm sorry, but anybody who's done chemistry at high school will know these. Same with 'speed of light in vac', except for physics. I'd say that means anybody here should be able to get them, but then again high school physics should also teach you that light isn't deflected by EM fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I'm sorry, but anybody who's done chemistry at high school will know these. Same with 'speed of light in vac', except for physics. I'd say that means anybody here should be able to get them, but then again high school physics should also teach you that light isn't deflected by EM fields.Whose to say that it isn't? Even slightly, you'd be wrong.AND WAIT!All I have for sources is you, so please cite some.And you never answered, do you NOT know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 All I have for sources is you, so please cite some.It's impossible to prove a negative, the burden of proof is on you. You said the magnetic field of the earth deflects lasers to a significant enough degree to make them useless as weapons, that shouldn't exactly be hard to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 It's impossible to prove a negative, the burden of proof is on you. You said the magnetic field of the earth deflects lasers to a significant enough degree to make them useless as weapons, that shouldn't exactly be hard to prove.Useless on Earth, not to mention the medium in which it travels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Useless on Earth.And I'm just supposed to take your word on it? C'mon, if what you're claiming happened happened it should be extremely easy to find sources. Edited February 7, 2014 by Kryten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakaydos Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Valence... damn, I know that word, but... is it the electron loaned to another atom for a non-ionic, non metalic bond? (A valence bond, as it were yep, I'm pretty sure it's right)Quantum Entanglement is a relationship that two particles can be in where they will have the same quantum state when that state is revealed, even though the state itself is not known.The electron energy levels of an atom are built up in a pattern. The innermost shell has only two slots- when only one of those slots is filled, you have a highly reactive element (hydrogen) and when both are filled, you have a highly UNreactive element (helium) The next two shells are 8 electrons, the next two are 16, and the two after that are (however large the transuranic elements are).Because these electrons deturmine the chemical properties, you can often predict the properties of an element by what elements have a similar atomic structure.Getting a little deeper into light and lasers, since that's the source of the current debate problems. What happens when a continius beam of light passes between the poles of a continius magnetic field? How does this compare to the path of a free electron passing between the same magnets, as in a Cathode Ray tube? (remember the maxwell equations!) Edited February 7, 2014 by Rakaydos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 And I'm just supposed to take your word on it? C'mon, ff what you're claiming happened happened it should be extremely easy to find sources.Admittedly, not COMPLETELY useless, but it would be very bulky and not really helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenok Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 You said:Electromagnetic fields.Why?Because if you can alter the laser's path enough, you could essentially dodge it by activating the field. Earth's field already renders lasers a pretty much useless weaponSo far, you're the one putting a claim, and failed to provide any source, while evading questions and diverting attention on the last page with high school questions. To me, and to anyone who might be reading the discussion, it seems that you don't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Admittedly, not COMPLETELY useless, but it would be very bulky and not really helpful.Find one source that states lasers can be noticeably deflected by the earth's magnetic field. Just. One. This should be a major topic in laser research after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 You said:So far, you're the one putting a claim, and failed to provide any source, while evading questions and diverting attention on the last page with high school questions. To me, and to anyone who might be reading the discussion, it seems that you don't know what you're talking about.Pretty much useless, yeah. The cost alone renders it unpractical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakaydos Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Seriously, KASA, judging by your replies and questions, you seem to be heavy into particle and atomic theory, but a bit light on electromagnetic theory.I believe you are honestly confusing how Alpha "Radiation" and electromagnetic "Radiation" interact with a magnetic field, because you'd be completely right if were were talking charged ions and not a self propagating wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Seriously, KASA, judging by your replies and questions, you seem to be heavy into particle and atomic theory, but a bit light on electromagnetic theory.I believe you are honestly confusing how Alpha "Radiation" and electromagnetic "Radiation" interact with a magnetic field, because you'd be completely right if were were talking charged ions and not a self propagating wave.Eh, it's just as good being wrong as it is being right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Eh, it's just as good being wrong as it is being right.That'd explain the three pages you blathered on for rather than just admitting your assertion was wrong in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 That'd explain the three pages you blathered on for rather than just admitting your assertion was wrong in the first place.It's called saying that if I'm right, then it's just as good as if you're right.That hasn't been decided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASASpace Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 according to the Quantum Theory, or A Quantum Theory, matter can exist in particle form, or wave form, and as electrons can be waves, and they are radiation, and lasers are based off of radiation to an extent, it is possible that an electromagnetic field COULD distort some kind of laser based on electrons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 A 'laser based on electrons' isn't a laser, by definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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