Goldilocks Zone Around Kerbol/Sun

[M.Wolfy]

Ok, so i want to build a space station in the Goldilocks zone (because i want to ) in orbit around Kerbol/Sun (whichever one you prefer) and then i realized "wait, where exactly is the Goldilocks zone?" i know its around kerbin, but i want to build this station on the inner boundary of the zone (lets just call it the zone, ok?), because we all know it is cold in deep space, and i would just prefer it closer as well. is there some sort of equation to figure this out (because if there is i don't know it) and i'm wondering if you guys can help me, uh... figure it out?

Edited August 28, 2013 by M.Wolfy

[Dortmunder]

Well, Kerbin is in it, so anywhere near Kerbins orbit around Kerbol should be within that zone.

As for an equation, you would probably have to know exactly how hot Kerbol actually is etc. I don't think that sort of info is in the game, so I would just put your station either a bit closer or a bit further out from Kerbins orbit and you should be fine.

[M.Wolfy]

well i did find this http://www.planetarybiology.com/calculating_habitable_zone.htm

i don't understand it so... uh, yeah if i knew what any of this means i would calculate it, i'm not exactly good or at least fine at physics and astronomy, i'm terrible at it. so i essentially do not understand 1 bit of it

Edited August 28, 2013 by M.Wolfy

[M.Wolfy]

Well, Kerbin is in it, so anywhere near Kerbins orbit around Kerbol should be within that zone.

As for an equation, you would probably have to know exactly how hot Kerbol actually is etc. I don't think that sort of info is in the game, so I would just put your station either a bit closer or a bit further out from Kerbins orbit and you should be fine.

also i want it as far from kerbin as possible

[shand]

also i want it as far from kerbin as possible

simplest answer is then, place yourself in the same orbit as kerbin with a 180* phase difference.

its the only way to be consistantly far away from kerbin without leaving the system

[M.Wolfy]

simplest answer is then, place yourself in the same orbit as kerbin with a 180* phase difference.

its the only way to be consistantly far away from kerbin without leaving the system

yeah, like i said, i'm not good at this type of stuff, so um... i don't exactly get what you mean (yeah, i don't know what you mean by phase [Yes, i suck at this stuff , sorry if i'm being a bit, y'know... annoying.]).

[KasperVld]

what he means is place it in an orbit identical to Kerbins orbit, but exactly opposite from it relative to the Sun

[shand]

yeah, like i said, i'm not good at this type of stuff, so um... i don't exactly get what you mean (yeah, i don't know what you mean by phase [Yes, i suck at this stuff , sorry if i'm being a bit, y'know... annoying.]).

hehe don't worry you aren't annoying! KasperVld explains it better.

to achieve that orbit, burn out from kerbin orbit until you are orbiting the sun, then change your orbit as much as your fuel allowances allow (you will need the same fuel again plus wriggle room) i suggest increasing your Ap (high bit of orbit), then timewarp til you are 180 degrees from kerbin and perform the opposite manoeuvre to get your orbit the same as kerbin.

if that doesn't make sense feel free to ask for clarification - i suck at explaining so don't worry

The more fuel you burn the faster you will get to the right place but you can do it for as little as you care for (hypothetically a 1m/s burn at each end would acheive it.... evenutually)

[Guest]

what he means is place it in an orbit identical to Kerbins orbit, but exactly opposite from it relative to the Sun

Like the 1969 Gerry Anderson movie, Journey to the Far Side of the Sun (originally known as Doppelgänger). Kind of a fun movie. Not great, but fun.

[M.Wolfy]

ah, well, i'm gonna spend a bit trying to match velocities, thanks guys!

EDIT: and learning rocket science

Edited August 28, 2013 by M.Wolfy

[TheTriniFlyer]

Wait, I Remember that I did this calculation before:

Well, I just did some 'rudimentary' calculations (Very Rudimentary, to the Effect that I can be wrong, so please correct me if I am) and I figured out that Kerbol's Circumstellar Habitable zone According to:

Mass: ! Kerbol cannot support nuclear fusion !

Radius: About 19 500 000 KM which is near Duna

Luminosity: About 1.2 AU which past Eeloo

[capi3101]

Yeah, the parameters for Kerbol are all over the place; even the wiki mentions that there are no fewer than four possible stellar classifications into which it could based on its parameters (G-type, K-type, M-type, or sub brown dwarf). Kerbin orbits at a distance of about .09 AU from Kerbol and is habitable - that would be consistent with an M8V star, which would have an ecosphere from about 0.077 to 0.113 AU (11.55 to 16.95 million kilometers) give or take. You probably could just go ahead and use those figures and no one would be the wiser.

Jool/Laythe are at .458 AU, incidentally...

Bear in mind I'm swiping this information from an RPG, so take about the appropriate amount of stock in those figures. It's a well-researched RPG, if that helps.

Frost Line at .159 AU, Roche Limit at .009 AU (Moho's safe at .035), Outer Planetary Radius at 10.56 AU.........Tidal Lock Radius at .463 AU...................