Sirine Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) [Request]Can someone build me a Mun anomalies search craft. .Seeing the sharing craft forum, or the Rocket Builders companies, for all the amazing craft. And everyone of them proud of how they can achieve something. The cool looking, the long distance, the fastest, the highest, the lander, the lifter, the interplanetary explorer, the rover, the SSTO, the SSTM, the space station, etc...Everybody seems so 'expert' in craft building.There been 2 requests from me and only got a person who try to help and at the end, just give me a screen-shot?Should I put it to the "challenge" forum thread? or my reputation so bad that everyone just ignore me?or WTF, It is too hard to accomplish? Edited September 13, 2013 by Sirine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temeriki Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You want a giant craft thats not impossible just very impractical, you cant have it all in one boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostLabs Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 [Request] Please help me to build a Mun anomalies search craft.Seeing the sharing craft forum, or the Rocket Builders companies, for all the amazing craft. And everyone of them proud of how they can achieve something. The cool looking, the long distance, the fastest, the highest, the lander, the lifter, the interplanetary explorer, the rover, the SSTO, the SSTM, the space station, etc...Everybody seems so 'expert' in craft building.There been 2 requests from me and only got a person who try to help and at the end, just give me a screen-shot?Should I put it to the "challenge" forum thread? or my reputation so bad that everyone just ignore me?or WTF, It is too hard to accomplish?Are you wanting someone to build your own ship for you and hand it to you? Because that is not what you are asking. "Help me build" is not the same as "Can someone build me a". A "Help me build" will get you suggestions and screen shots.A request for someone to build something for you may result in someone being kind enough to build you a craft or share what they have built already.Go take a look in the Rocket Exchange section of the forum. You may find something there that you can use or modify to suit your needs. I've gotten a lot of great craft there.Another option is: Just build it yourself. That is how everyone else got to where they make those cool, fast, long distance ships. They tried to build it, failed, tried again, failed, tried again and kept at it until it worked. Just do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirine Posted September 13, 2013 Author Share Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) @Temeriki Giant craft? I just need that Mun rover that can move on Mun surface fast. Not All in one boat, and not "Giant" as what you thinking of.@BostLabs Thanks. Think that is the problem, my sentence are wrong!!! I go change it. Edited September 15, 2013 by stupid_chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Perhaps they just find it too little a challenge and not enough fun.Being a noob I would probably consider something like a lightweight low-orbiter with enough fuel to land and return to orbit once or twice. One fuel tank, one RCS tank, horizontal rocket engine(s), RCS, a seat and four or six rover wheels. And of course a docking port to refuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirine Posted September 13, 2013 Author Share Posted September 13, 2013 @kasuha Perhaps....I have change the sentence. Now it make more sense, and more challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amoun Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Now now don't get upset. No one is ignoring anyone.You ARE asking for a rather complicated vehicle here. It has to be very efficient, very well balanced and very easy to fly (mainly because it is not you building it, so you need to have a predictable ways of how it will perform). I am not going to lie, I do not think I can build a perfect craft like that but the theory is there.You can have a regular delivery craft that will get you to the Mun, have a sky-crane type lander undock and then it can float to the surface. It will definitely need to be very....very efficient, so I am thinking ion engines or 2 nukes due to their ISP...though they are heavy, but if anything, you can refuel the lander at your main ship.I am trying to build a mothership which will do about the same thing, I want to be my exploration ship. with the ability to scan, land, explore and take off to refuel.What about some VTOLs though? There is a PERFECTLY balanced VTOL which can take off and land and hover and fly...its amazing, truly very well engineered. I will try to find a name....and its cockpit detaches, so you can use it as a rover. I love that thing...its just amazing.What you then need, is only the delivery craft, and thats it I am going to try and find it....have no idea what the name was...but I loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedjal Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 take the heavy stock lander, put a docking port underneath it. Build solar powered rover, attach to docking port.Land, detach rover, roam around, park rover under the lander, take in the landing gears so that the lander "lands" ontop of rover, rover is now docked, go to orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirine Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) Now now don't get upset. No one is ignoring anyone.You ARE asking for a rather complicated vehicle here. It has to be very efficient, very well balanced and very easy to fly (mainly because it is not you building it, so you need to have a predictable ways of how it will perform). I am not going to lie, I do not think I can build a perfect craft like that but the theory is there.You can have a regular delivery craft that will get you to the Mun, have a sky-crane type lander undock and then it can float to the surface. It will definitely need to be very....very efficient, so I am thinking ion engines or 2 nukes due to their ISP...though they are heavy, but if anything, you can refuel the lander at your main ship.I am trying to build a mothership which will do about the same thing, I want to be my exploration ship. with the ability to scan, land, explore and take off to refuel.What about some VTOLs though? There is a PERFECTLY balanced VTOL which can take off and land and hover and fly...its amazing, truly very well engineered. I will try to find a name....and its cockpit detaches, so you can use it as a rover. I love that thing...its just amazing.What you then need, is only the delivery craft, and thats it I am going to try and find it....have no idea what the name was...but I loved it.thanks.pls find it.take the heavy stock lander, put a docking port underneath it. Build solar powered rover, attach to docking port.Land, detach rover, roam around, park rover under the lander, take in the landing gears so that the lander "lands" ontop of rover, rover is now docked, go to orbit.ye. you dont even know the scale of how long / far you need to cover. Edited September 15, 2013 by stupid_chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyRender Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Check your topic again. I have hopefully provided something that will work for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvickFlygarn87 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 If you would look at some tutorials, learn a bit of grammar, and explain a lot more details, you would most likely get a whole lot more response on your threads. Just saying.Now, that rant dealt with, try the Ultimate Mun Rover, its great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenithRising Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure stock-rovers don't move much fasters than 15-20m/s. Kind of a bummer, but there aren't any faster wheels, so unless you strap a rocket to the back (which will probably result in a fiery explosion), you're not going to improve on the speed.You can hit Alt + > to to engage the physics warp, and speed up your driving up to 4x. That has a tendency to make things very unstable, so it will only really work on flat terrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lohan2008 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Sirine the stock rover is best craft to use on the Mun > anything faster than 10 m/s will "bounce" off the ground, ending in tears.I put my rover on top of a fuel tank and collapsed the landing gear, rolling rover on it's side.Can you give ksp forum more detail on what you are building ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirine Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) Now, that rant dealt with, try the Ultimate Mun Rover, its great! @KvickFlygarn87 Ultimate Mun Rover...what?where?ZenithRising Stock-rovers CAN move faster than 15~20m/s. At Mun, you can't do physics warp.the stock rover is best craft to use on the Mun > anything faster than 10 m/s will "bounce" off the ground, ending in tears.I put my rover on top of a fuel tank and collapsed the landing gear, rolling rover on it's side.Can you give ksp forum more detail on what you are building ?? I'm using stock. I'm running at 15m/s (Can be faster but I limit it to 15m/s, that is the safest speed that it can travel anyway).KSP forum...which thread section? And what detail are you looking for?Rover I'm using on the Mun. 15m/s.Javascript is disabled. View full albumJavascript is disabled. View full album Edited September 15, 2013 by stupid_chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araym Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Already implemented like "study vehicle" to manage similar design of my own, I think that Amoun is referring to the Amphibious VTOLSSTO made by Levelord:http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/showthread.php/24734-Amphibious-VTOLSSTO-%28Image-heavy%29?highlight=Amphibious+VTOLSSTOfor the serie with also a built in cockpit/roverhttp://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/showthread.php/43499-Amphibious-VTOLSSTO-Mk1-W-STABOJET%E2%84%A2-technology-%280-21-1%29?highlight=Amphibious+VTOLSSTO for the new versions (no rover for the moment)Ensure yourself about checking where eventually you will take it: the vertical take off (like the main atmospheric engines) are made by AIR BREATHING Jet Engine.Without AIR (moons and Duna/Eve planets, that have a no-oxigen atmosphere) NO Vertical take off, if you will not manage to change propulsion For Munoliths research (and eventually mapping) add an ISAMap radar...For Kethane scanning, the right equipment...(As I use some mods, I'm going to change probably the cockpit from an mk.1 to an mk.2, using procedural fairing to build the scanner needed INSIDE an empty nosecone - like modern jet fighters that have their rada inside the nosecone in front of it )Edit: P.s.: download and try also the "Space ring" nuclear powered that allow those fine spaceplane to dock with and travel interplanetary (You will find it very Star Wars like )Edit 2: P.P.s: I made the first version a "Study prototype" just after some issues (posted by Levelord himself) regarding some problem with struts used to clip parts together, docking: I ended in a nice explosion docking ) Edited September 15, 2013 by Araym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirine Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 @AraymI need no jet engine. I need a flying rover which work at Mun, and pin point landing. Which part of your thread cover that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyRender Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 What you're requesting, unfortunately, is patently impossible. There's a good reason why the Apollo missions were constantly leaving mass behind on their way to and from the moon: delta-V is difficult to come by if you don't. Indeed, it is patently impossible to come by if you never dispose of anything. What you are asking for is basically a craft with infinite fuel to fly around as though delta-V is not a concern. That's just not going to happen unless you hit Alt+F12 and activate the cheat for it. The best you can hope for is to improve your piloting skills to better land in a pinpoint fashion, and to improve your driving skills so you can rove from site to site. The actual best solution is to develop a mobile craft that only can land and return to orbit instead of having excessive delta-V, and just refuel it after each trip down. But that, of course, will require skill in quite a number of departments (landing, ascent, interception, and docking to name the key ones).tl;dr: Space is hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvickFlygarn87 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Try searching fore it. Remember, there may be more than one page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirine Posted September 15, 2013 Author Share Posted September 15, 2013 seems that you guy dont realise. levelord plane. major in air. you could try use-up all the fuel. the craft still floating. this is part of the game bug. you guy thnk it is good it fly stable. but unfortunately it dont up to my expectation. air or no air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Deaux Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Stock craft can't pinpoint land, that's all on the pilot.However, I have posted a craft that can do most of what you wanted. I'd suggest adding Mechjeb and ISAMapsat mods if you want the pinpoint accuracy and the search for annomolies.http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/showthread.php/35584-Introducing-the-Nina-Mun-explorer-and-return-vehicle-package?highlight=Nina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirine Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 Moderator please close this thread. There are no capable helping hand. I'm on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Deaux Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 If you leave it open, you can stop back and show us all how you did it exactly as you requested it to be done. I'd be very excited to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupid_chris Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Alright, closed by request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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