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Kerbal Attachment System (KAS) 0.4.7 - Pipes as fuel lines and even fewer explosions!

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Hodo

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Hi, today I tried adding a Rockomax 24-77 to a ship in orbit putting the engine in a KAS container and using EVA to attach it to a fuel tank, but the engine does not receive any fuel. Am I missing something?

Quick save and reload, that will fix the problem.

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A radial stackable winch looses control functions if something is (or was) attached below it. GUI is empty and you can't pull connector. :(

If lower (in default VAB orientation) connection node is not occupied it works fine.

This. I was about to post about this, but i never noticed it worked without stuff attached to the bottom, i just found it doesn't show the GUI and is less controllable than the other winches.

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Hello people. I'm trying to figure out how to use winches. I've installed two of them on my ship, but they seem to be inactive. I can eject them, but there is no retraction option and their gui is empty. Have I failed ship design? Or is it something else? I have a rover where installed winch works as intended.

Here the shot of my nuclar wessel

Iqi1Ddj.png

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Phoenix84

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Hello people. I'm trying to figure out how to use winches. I've installed two of them on my ship, but they seem to be inactive. I can eject them, but there is no retraction option and their gui is empty. Have I failed ship design? Or is it something else? I have a rover where installed winch works as intended.

Here the shot of my nuclar wessel

http://i.imgur.com/Iqi1Ddj.png

I just ran into that (in addition to other issues). That particular winch seems broken (which I didn't figure out until I needed it). Use a radial winch. Also, right now I can't interact with an item after a kerbal has grabbed it, making EVA useless. It seems to have started after I interacted with that stack winch. The best I can do is move an item that's already attached via the 'Attach' menu option, or store it.

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Horman

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I there,

I have a problem, trying to connect alexstusas light globes to the KAS system.

I have placed his light globe box (attach) to the ground.

I grabbed a radial connector port and I am able to attach this to the box, but I DON'T get any conntection - there is also no Winch GUI comming up, when right clicking on the winch...

any help?

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Notice you can grab and move ladders, but seems with the extending ladders at least, you no longer have the ability to use them. You can extend and retract them, but they have a collision box (maybe caused by grabbing and moving while extended?) so you can't get close enough to grab onto it, it just gets pushed around out of the way. Unsure if saving and reloading fixes the issue.

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I really like the idea of KAS struts which have to be attached EVA in space. However, I experiency major wobble even though I used plenty of struts to connect my docked parts (a feeled little to no benefit vs only dockign ports). Is this a bug / is there any possibility to increase the struts' strength?

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I really like the idea of KAS struts which have to be attached EVA in space. However, I experiency major wobble even though I used plenty of struts to connect my docked parts (a feeled little to no benefit vs only dockign ports). Is this a bug / is there any possibility to increase the struts' strength?

Just use Strut Guns from the Quantum struts pack. You just have to remember to add them while building the pieces you're going to dock, and aim them where the other docked craft will be.

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MaHuJa

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I made a small addon to kas for myself. I just went ahead after flexrack (ex-KASPAR) was postponed.

Basically, I copied the containers, removed the parts storage, and added other stuff. I have one for fuels, one for reactor fuels (kspi ones), one for life support or spare parts, one in which one experiments can be stored. They all use the models and textures of the old containers though.

It depends on modular fuel tanks and tal's spherical and toroidal tanks (in particular the utility tank config). If anyone is interested in the configs, I can post them.

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I made a small addon to kas for myself. I just went ahead after flexrack (ex-KASPAR) was postponed.

Basically, I copied the containers, removed the parts storage, and added other stuff.

Well that's cute... I did the opposite, because I do a lot of orbital (re)construction, I basically repainted some fuel tanks and configured them as large KAS containers for shipping lots of parts in. :)

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This mod would be awesome with toolbar integration...

I don't quite see how that would be helpful in normal usage, but if it were possible to get a per-vessel list of parts held in containers, with highlighting of the container where each is located, that would be wonderful in the case of a station or large vessel with multiple containers.

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I made a small addon to kas for myself. I just went ahead after flexrack (ex-KASPAR) was postponed.

Basically, I copied the containers, removed the parts storage, and added other stuff. I have one for fuels, one for reactor fuels (kspi ones), one for life support or spare parts, one in which one experiments can be stored. They all use the models and textures of the old containers though.

It depends on modular fuel tanks and tal's spherical and toroidal tanks (in particular the utility tank config). If anyone is interested in the configs, I can post them.

Hey Please do! I can think of so many uses i could use those new boxes for.

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MaHuJa

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I don't quite see how that would be helpful in normal usage,

I'm assuming he means the winches gui. Having that available on a toolbar button could make things a bit simpler.

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And for my repurposed containers...

I made the following boxes:

Fuel

Life support/spare parts (uses tal utility tank definition)

KSPI reactor fuels (with a corresponding tank definition, which should perhaps be considered WIP.)

Science container - basically holds experiments data like capsules do.

Here's the fuel box in a nutshell:

Start with a copy of the B (large) parts container.

Change the author line: We don't want zzz to take the blame for our mistakes, yet give him credit for the base item.

Change its model definition to using a MODEL node. This allows us to not duplicate the files. Something here will have to change for custom textures.

Remove the KAS parts container module.

Add the modules you want. (E.g. ModuleFuelTanks or straight fuel storage)

Start testing the new item for function and balancing issues. (They don't work well at mass > 10 tons. Ran into that with KSPI nuclear fuels.)

Repeat as necessary to add all the containers you want.

Here's the whole file; it doesn't care where in the gamedata folders it lies. I think.

// Changing from mesh attribute to MODEL node
// http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/62918-Change-PART-from-mesh-to-MODEL-form
// Except there's a bug whereby a model using MODEL node is scaled by rescaleFactor * rescaleFactor. So you will need to set, in model node, scale = 1/rF, 1/rF, 1/rF (for any rF), where rF = 1.25 if not present in cfg. -- NathanKell
@PART[KAS_ContainerBay1] {
	@fuelCrossFeed = True
}
// B fuel
PART
{
	// --- general parameters ---
	name = KAS_Container_mhj_fuel
	module = Part
	author = zzz + MaHuJa

	//mesh = KAS/Parts/container2/container2
	//container2.mu
	MODEL
	{
		model = KAS/Parts/container2/container2
		scale = 2, 2, 2
	}
	//Waiting scale bug to be fixed by squad http://bugs.kerbalspaceprogram.com/issues/1123

	scale = 1
	rescaleFactor = 0.50

	// --- node definitions ---
	node_stack_bottom = 0.0, -0.7596, 0.0, 0.0, -1.0, 0.0, 0

	// --- editor parameters ---
	cost = 680
	category = Utility
	subcategory = 0
	title = Container Type B/Fuel
	manufacturer = Sklifosovsky Labs
	description = A KAS dedicated container which can hold fuel.

	TechRequired = composites
	entryCost = 50

	// attachment rules: stack, srfAttach, allowStack, allowSrfAttach, allowCollision
	attachRules = 1,0,1,0,1

	// --- standard part parameters ---
	mass = 0.04
	dragModelType = default
	maximum_drag = 0.2
	minimum_drag = 0.3
	angularDrag = 2
	crashTolerance = 20
	maxTemp = 3400
	fuelCrossFeed = True
	breakingForce = 15
	breakingTorque = 15

	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleFuelTanks
		volume = 100
		type = Default
	}

	MODULE
	{
		name = KASModuleGrab
		evaPartPos = (0.0, 0.10, -0.15)
		evaPartDir = (0,0,-1)
		attachNodeName = bottom
		customGroundPos = true
		dropPartPos = (0.0, 0.0, -0.55)
		dropPartRot = (-10.0, 0.0, 0.0)
		bayType = containerB
		bayNode = bottom
		bayRot = (0.0, 0.0, 0.0)
	}

}

// B LS+parts
PART
{
	// --- general parameters ---
	name = KAS_Container_mhj_LS
	module = Part
	author = zzz + MaHuJa

	MODEL
	{
		model = KAS/Parts/container2/container2
		scale = 2, 2, 2
	}

	scale = 1
	rescaleFactor = 0.50

	// --- node definitions ---
	node_stack_bottom = 0.0, -0.7596, 0.0, 0.0, -1.0, 0.0, 0

	// --- editor parameters ---
	cost = 680
	category = Utility
	subcategory = 0
	title = Container Type B/LS
	manufacturer = Sklifosovsky Labs
	description = A KAS dedicated container which can hold life support supplies or similar.

	TechRequired = composites
	entryCost = 50

	// attachment rules: stack, srfAttach, allowStack, allowSrfAttach, allowCollision
	attachRules = 1,0,1,0,1



	// --- standard part parameters ---
	mass = 0.04
	dragModelType = default
	maximum_drag = 0.2
	minimum_drag = 0.3
	angularDrag = 2
	crashTolerance = 20
	maxTemp = 3400
	fuelCrossFeed = True
	breakingForce = 15
	breakingTorque = 15

	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleFuelTanks
		volume = 200
		basemass = -1
		type = TALUTILITY
	}


	MODULE
	{
		name = KASModuleGrab
		evaPartPos = (0.0, 0.10, -0.15)
		evaPartDir = (0,0,-1)
		attachNodeName = bottom
		customGroundPos = true
		dropPartPos = (0.0, 0.0, -0.55)
		dropPartRot = (-10.0, 0.0, 0.0)
		bayType = containerB
		bayNode = bottom
		bayRot = (0.0, 0.0, 0.0)
	}

}

// A Science
PART
{
	// --- general parameters ---
	name = KAS_Container_mhj_sci
	module = Part
	author = zzz + MaHuJa

	//mesh = KAS/Parts/container1/container1
	MODEL
	{
		model = KAS/Parts/container1/container1
		scale = 2, 2, 2
	}

	scale = 1
	rescaleFactor = 0.50

	// --- node definitions ---
	node_stack_bottom = 0.0, -0.3968, 0.0, 0.0, -1.0, 0.0, 0

	// --- editor parameters ---
	cost = 680
	category = Utility
	subcategory = 0
	title = Container Type A/Science
	manufacturer = Sklifosovsky Labs
	description = A KAS dedicated container which can hold science materials.

	TechRequired = composites
	entryCost = 50

	// attachment rules: stack, srfAttach, allowStack, allowSrfAttach, allowCollision
	attachRules = 1,0,1,0,1

	// --- standard part parameters ---
	mass = 0.02
	dragModelType = default
	maximum_drag = 0.2
	minimum_drag = 0.3
	angularDrag = 2
	crashTolerance = 20
	maxTemp = 3400
	fuelCrossFeed = True
	breakingForce = 15
	breakingTorque = 15

	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleScienceContainer

		reviewActionName = Review Stored Data
		storeActionName = Store Experiments
		evaOnlyStorage = False
		storageRange = 2.3
	}


	MODULE
	{
		name = KASModuleGrab
		evaPartPos = (0.0, 0.10, -0.15)
		evaPartDir = (0,0,-1)
		attachNodeName = bottom
		customGroundPos = true
		dropPartPos = (0.0, 0.0, -0.55)
		dropPartRot = (-10.0, 0.0, 0.0)
		bayType = containerB
		bayNode = bottom
		bayRot = (0.0, 0.0, 0.0)
	}

}

// B Nuclear Fuel
// KSP Interstellar reactor fuels, minus antimatter.
TANK_DEFINITION
{
	name = MFTREACTORFUELS
	basemass = 0.005 * volume
	TANK {
		name = UF4
		utilization = 200
		mass = 0
		amount = 0.0
		maxAmount = 0.0
		// note = 
	}
	TANK {
		name = ThF4
		utilization = 200
		mass = 0
		amount = 0.0
		maxAmount = 0.0
		// note = 
	}
	TANK {
		name = DepletedFuel
		fillable = false
		utilization = 200
		mass = 0
		amount = 0.0
		maxAmount = 0.0
		// note = 
	}
	TANK {
		name = Deuterium
		utilization = 1.3
		mass = 0
		amount = 0.0
		maxAmount = 0.0
		// note = 
	}
	TANK {
		name = Tritium
		utilization = 1.3
		mass = 0
		amount = 0.0
		maxAmount = 0.0
		fillable = false
		// note = 
	}
	TANK {
		name = Helium-3
		utilization = 1.3
		mass = 0
		amount = 0.0
		maxAmount = 0.0
		// note = 
	}
	TANK {
		name = Lithium
		utilization = 1
		mass = 0
		amount = 0.0
		maxAmount = 0.0
		// note = 
	}


}

PART
{
	// --- general parameters ---
	name = KAS_Container_mhj_nuclear
	module = Part
	author = zzz + MaHuJa

	MODEL
	{
		model = KAS/Parts/container2/container2
		scale = 2, 2, 2
	}
	scale = 1
	rescaleFactor = 0.50

	// --- node definitions ---
	node_stack_bottom = 0.0, -0.7596, 0.0, 0.0, -1.0, 0.0, 0

	// --- editor parameters ---
	cost = 680
	category = Utility
	subcategory = 0
	title = Container Type B/Nuclear
	manufacturer = Sklifosovsky Labs
	description = This container was made as a movable way of bringing reactor fuels around. It was made to comply with the ubiquitous KAS container format.

	TechRequired = composites
	entryCost = 50

	// attachment rules: stack, srfAttach, allowStack, allowSrfAttach, allowCollision
	attachRules = 1,0,1,0,1


	// --- standard part parameters ---
	mass = 0.04
	dragModelType = default
	maximum_drag = 0.2
	minimum_drag = 0.3
	angularDrag = 2
	crashTolerance = 20
	maxTemp = 3400
	fuelCrossFeed = True
	breakingForce = 15
	breakingTorque = 15

	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleFuelTanks
		volume = 200
		basemass = 0.04
		type = MFTREACTORFUELS
	}


	MODULE
	{
		name = KASModuleGrab
		evaPartPos = (0.0, 0.10, -0.15)
		evaPartDir = (0,0,-1)
		attachNodeName = bottom
		customGroundPos = true
		dropPartPos = (0.0, 0.0, -0.55)
		dropPartRot = (-10.0, 0.0, 0.0)
		bayType = containerB
		bayNode = bottom
		bayRot = (0.0, 0.0, 0.0)
	}

}

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