[Airships in 1.12.3] HooliganLabs Mods

[phoenix_ca]

Cool beans. So here's a question, and apologies for not testing this myself but my computer with KSP on it is in for repair: What happens to airships when they're put on rails? When I saw these parts I immediately thought "this would be perfect for He3-gathering in KSPI on Jool". The idea is to drop a large airship in Jool's atmosphere, with piles and piles of scoops on it to collect He3. Then I could send a spaceplane down to collect the He3, assuming I could figure-out a decent way to get the resources transferred. Fuel lines to transfer resources means docking, docking means bad, bad things in mid-air.

But none of that matters if the thing will just drop from the sky when it goes on rails. Might need to find a way for the airship to put itself into orbit instead.

Edited May 1, 2014 by phoenix_ca

[JewelShisen]

Cool beans. So here's a question, and apologies for not testing this myself but my computer with KSP on it is in for repair: What happens to airships when they're put on rails? When I saw these parts I immediately thought "this would be perfect for He3-gathering in KSPI on Jool". The idea is to drop a large airship in Jool's atmosphere, with piles and piles of scoops on it to collect He3. Then I could send a spaceplane down to collect the He3, assuming I could figure-out a decent way to get the resources transferred. Fuel lines to transfer resources means docking, docking means bad, bad things in mid-air.

But none of that matters if the thing will just drop from the sky when it goes on rails. Might need to find a way for the airship to put itself into orbit instead.

Sadly I can tell you that it will not work short of using KAS to anchor it and 'fake' it being landed. Without that KSP won't let you put it on rails or change vessels.

[phoenix_ca]

Well. That's unfortunate. But possible with KAS you say? So it might be doable.

[JewelShisen]

That's unfortunate. But possible with KAS you say? So it might be doable.

I will talk with the owner of KAS and see about adding an extended version just for HL Airships

[phoenix_ca]

It'd certainly be interesting if the SrfLanded status could be faked above ground for the purposes of stationary airships.

[JewelShisen]

It'd certainly be interesting if the SrfLanded status could be faked above ground for the purposes of stationary airships.

That is the reason and point of the KAS Anchor part. It allows the ship to be 'Landed' while still being airborn.

[Galane]

But Jool has no surface, at least not that can be reached.

If the HE3 collection will work when the ship isn't the focus, you could put the airship into an elliptical orbit with an apoapsis above the atmosphere and KSP won't kill it when it's not the active ship and you can switch away when its above atmo. You will have to deal with aerobraking if you're on that ship when it dips into the atmo.

[JewelShisen]

But Jool has no surface, at least not that can be reached.

If the HE3 collection will work when the ship isn't the focus, you could put the airship into an elliptical orbit with an apoapsis above the atmosphere and KSP won't kill it when it's not the active ship and you can switch away when its above atmo. You will have to deal with aerobraking if you're on that ship when it dips into the atmo.

Jool surface CAN be reached it just takes some care and you can't bring the main part of the ship to it.

[phoenix_ca]

AFAIK, KSPI atmospheric scoops don't work when not focused.

[phoenix_ca]

Jool surface CAN be reached it just takes some care and you can't bring the main part of the ship to it.

So what's involved in that? Get to say...1,000m up or so and launch a grappling hook?

[JewelShisen]

So what's involved in that? Get to say...1,000m up or so and launch a grappling hook?

As far as I know. I have never attempted it but I have heard people say it can be done.

[Westi29]

Any plans on making runways?

[JewelShisen]

Any plans on making runways?

Runway for what?

[Tommygun]

Runway for what?

Didn't the original mod have runway pieces?

People would make flying aircraft carriers out of them, unless I'm thinking of a different mod.

[JewelShisen]

Didn't the original mod have runway pieces?

People would make flying aircraft carriers out of them, unless I'm thinking of a different mod.

The only runway parts it had were in the Landing Pads mod for use with EL. Most people used ID's BoatParts mod to make what you are talking about.

[Westi29]

The original mod has runways for extra planetary launchpads mod. They are really hard to get into position and are relatively useless. Clip into the ground, can't recover or launch from them, and they can't be a root part.

[JewelShisen]

The original mod has runways for extra planetary launchpads mod. They are really hard to get into position and are relatively useless. Clip into the ground, can't recover or launch from them, and they can't be a root part.

I am unlikely to remake those at this time

[RuBisCO]

So the HL Mod still has not be updated with the new squid parts?

[JewelShisen]

So the HL Mod still has not be updated with the new squid parts?

Having some Spaceport issues at the moment but I am working on it and I have the master file updated.

[JewelShisen]

Squid mod is updated with the new textures!

[phoenix_ca]

Squid mod is updated with the new textures!

Those the blue-striped textures that were posted earlier?

[JewelShisen]

Those the blue-striped textures that were posted earlier?

Correct! They are the new blue tinted ones.

[Jivaii]

Out of curiosity, does the airships still play decent with FAR?

[JewelShisen]

Out of curiosity, does the airships still play decent with FAR?

As far as I know. I have not tested them yet though I will be soon.

[Jivaii]

As far as I know. I have not tested them yet though I will be soon.

I just loaded it up with FAR installed, the bigger envelopes (Octo and Hecto) are pretty bad due to drag, but the end cap is AWESOME!