phoenix_ca Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) Cool beans. So here's a question, and apologies for not testing this myself but my computer with KSP on it is in for repair: What happens to airships when they're put on rails? When I saw these parts I immediately thought "this would be perfect for He3-gathering in KSPI on Jool". The idea is to drop a large airship in Jool's atmosphere, with piles and piles of scoops on it to collect He3. Then I could send a spaceplane down to collect the He3, assuming I could figure-out a decent way to get the resources transferred. Fuel lines to transfer resources means docking, docking means bad, bad things in mid-air.But none of that matters if the thing will just drop from the sky when it goes on rails. Might need to find a way for the airship to put itself into orbit instead. Edited May 1, 2014 by phoenix_ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Cool beans. So here's a question, and apologies for not testing this myself but my computer with KSP on it is in for repair: What happens to airships when they're put on rails? When I saw these parts I immediately thought "this would be perfect for He3-gathering in KSPI on Jool". The idea is to drop a large airship in Jool's atmosphere, with piles and piles of scoops on it to collect He3. Then I could send a spaceplane down to collect the He3, assuming I could figure-out a decent way to get the resources transferred. Fuel lines to transfer resources means docking, docking means bad, bad things in mid-air.But none of that matters if the thing will just drop from the sky when it goes on rails. Might need to find a way for the airship to put itself into orbit instead.Sadly I can tell you that it will not work short of using KAS to anchor it and 'fake' it being landed. Without that KSP won't let you put it on rails or change vessels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix_ca Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Well. That's unfortunate. But possible with KAS you say? So it might be doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 That's unfortunate. But possible with KAS you say? So it might be doable.I will talk with the owner of KAS and see about adding an extended version just for HL Airships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix_ca Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 It'd certainly be interesting if the SrfLanded status could be faked above ground for the purposes of stationary airships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 It'd certainly be interesting if the SrfLanded status could be faked above ground for the purposes of stationary airships.That is the reason and point of the KAS Anchor part. It allows the ship to be 'Landed' while still being airborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galane Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 But Jool has no surface, at least not that can be reached.If the HE3 collection will work when the ship isn't the focus, you could put the airship into an elliptical orbit with an apoapsis above the atmosphere and KSP won't kill it when it's not the active ship and you can switch away when its above atmo. You will have to deal with aerobraking if you're on that ship when it dips into the atmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 But Jool has no surface, at least not that can be reached.If the HE3 collection will work when the ship isn't the focus, you could put the airship into an elliptical orbit with an apoapsis above the atmosphere and KSP won't kill it when it's not the active ship and you can switch away when its above atmo. You will have to deal with aerobraking if you're on that ship when it dips into the atmo.Jool surface CAN be reached it just takes some care and you can't bring the main part of the ship to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix_ca Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 AFAIK, KSPI atmospheric scoops don't work when not focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix_ca Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Jool surface CAN be reached it just takes some care and you can't bring the main part of the ship to it.So what's involved in that? Get to say...1,000m up or so and launch a grappling hook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 So what's involved in that? Get to say...1,000m up or so and launch a grappling hook?As far as I know. I have never attempted it but I have heard people say it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westi29 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Any plans on making runways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Any plans on making runways?Runway for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygun Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Runway for what?Didn't the original mod have runway pieces? People would make flying aircraft carriers out of them, unless I'm thinking of a different mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Didn't the original mod have runway pieces? People would make flying aircraft carriers out of them, unless I'm thinking of a different mod.The only runway parts it had were in the Landing Pads mod for use with EL. Most people used ID's BoatParts mod to make what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westi29 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 The original mod has runways for extra planetary launchpads mod. They are really hard to get into position and are relatively useless. Clip into the ground, can't recover or launch from them, and they can't be a root part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 The original mod has runways for extra planetary launchpads mod. They are really hard to get into position and are relatively useless. Clip into the ground, can't recover or launch from them, and they can't be a root part.I am unlikely to remake those at this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuBisCO Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 So the HL Mod still has not be updated with the new squid parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 So the HL Mod still has not be updated with the new squid parts?Having some Spaceport issues at the moment but I am working on it and I have the master file updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Squid mod is updated with the new textures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix_ca Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Squid mod is updated with the new textures!Those the blue-striped textures that were posted earlier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 Those the blue-striped textures that were posted earlier?Correct! They are the new blue tinted ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivaii Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Out of curiosity, does the airships still play decent with FAR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewelShisen Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 Out of curiosity, does the airships still play decent with FAR?As far as I know. I have not tested them yet though I will be soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivaii Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 As far as I know. I have not tested them yet though I will be soon.I just loaded it up with FAR installed, the bigger envelopes (Octo and Hecto) are pretty bad due to drag, but the end cap is AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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