Mihara Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 and the problems I am having are that the buttons at the top of the MFD of RPM are greyed out instead of A-E... and with Spaceplane Plus it only has 1 MFD, instead of the multiple I have seen.They are not "greyed out". They actually are currently grey and unlabeled. The model with buttons which were labeled has been found to have irreparable problems and was replaced.and with Spaceplane Plus it only has 1 MFD, instead of the multiple I have seen.Old version of Spaceplane Plus is not compatible with RPM 0.17+For the record, here's how it looks on my install and how it should look when everything's fresh and correctly installed:Notice that Porkjet forgot to replace the IndicatorPanel with IndicatorPanelRPM. And KSI MFD won't work at all with RPM...Because it has still to be properly updated. There's a patched version available a ways off towards the end of it's thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spadeykins Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 After installing RPM my FPS dropped from 70+ to 10-15 and became extremely unplayable. This is on a x64 install, any input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextre Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Is Mk3 Internal by Torouh torpedo RPM module manager files properly works? after fresh install i ve got empty space where should be RPM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihara Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 After installing RPM my FPS dropped from 70+ to 10-15 and became extremely unplayable. This is on a x64 install, any input?It is almost certain that the cause of FPS drop is constant spam of error messages in logs. Looking into the logs should provide the clue to the cause.Is Mk3 Internal by Torouh torpedo RPM module manager files properly works? after fresh install i ve got empty space where should be RPM...No, if it has not been updated to RPM 0.17 changes it is unlikely to be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceSmith Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 They are not "greyed out". They actually are currently grey and unlabeled. The model with buttons which were labeled has been found to have irreparable problems and was replaced.Old version of Spaceplane Plus is not compatible with RPM 0.17+For the record, here's how it looks on my install and how it should look when everything's fresh and correctly installed:Notice that Porkjet forgot to replace the IndicatorPanel with IndicatorPanelRPM. Because it has still to be properly updated. There's a patched version available a ways off towards the end of it's thread.So where did you get that version of Spaceplane plus?? because I DL'd the version that was on the page after it said it was .24 compatible, it should have been the latest one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDamDog Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 RPM doesn't appear to be working in 24.1. At least for me.With the Alcor pod:http://i.imgur.com/mGsOydo.pngNone of the switches except the 'fire engine' one are working. Displays are non-functional and display different things depending on viewing angle.With vanilla pods it's just a grey screen:http://i.imgur.com/AX9gldL.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderJohnKoenig Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 TheDamDog, I also have Alcor pod and RPM is working on mine. The look of it is a little off but, seems to be working other than that. Perhaps when the update for RPM is available even that will probably be fixed. In the mean time I would suggest checking to see if your other mods are up to date. Also make sure you are using Vessel View mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihara Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) RPM doesn't appear to be working in 24.1. At least for me.See http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/57603-0-24-RasterPropMonitor-putting-the-A-in-your-IVA-%28v0-18%29-18-Jul?p=1297893&viewfull=1#post1297893 KSPAPIExtensions was broken by 0.24.1. You most probably have it. It being broken can prevent RPM components from initializing in the manner I described. EDIT: Well, it's not broken that hard, it turns out, so it doesn't. But there's enough things floating around that could be.Which makes it a perfect opportunity to test the new error detection mechanism I've set up which should, in theory, detect it and give you a more sensible error message... Edited July 25, 2014 by Mihara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihara Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hokay, so...People who are having problems introduced by 0.24.1, please try the prerelease version 0.18.1. If there's nothing wrong with it, I'll put it up in the usual places.https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532373/RasterPropMonitor%200.18.1.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDamDog Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hokay, so...People who are having problems introduced by 0.24.1, please try the prerelease version 0.18.1. If there's nothing wrong with it, I'll put it up in the usual places.https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532373/RasterPropMonitor%200.18.1.zipThanks for the explanation and the fix. I do love my IVA controls. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizopiloto Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 is someone able to see a map with ScanSat screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderJohnKoenig Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hokay, so...People who are having problems introduced by 0.24.1, please try the prerelease version 0.18.1. If there's nothing wrong with it, I'll put it up in the usual places.https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532373/RasterPropMonitor%200.18.1.zip Mihara, Love your mod. I have not been having problems with the newest .24.1 update but was wondering if it would be worth my downloading your 0.18.1 prerelease or just wait for the final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihara Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Mihara, Love your mod. I have not been having problems with the newest .24.1 update but was wondering if it would be worth my downloading your 0.18.1 prerelease or just wait for the final?All that is different between it and 0.18 are bugfixes for various obscure problems: https://github.com/Mihara/RasterPropMonitor/wiki/Changes-in-this-versionThe big change is that RPM now tries harder to tell you something if it's initialization got stopped by a third party mod dying and messing up the initialization call chain. Unfortunately a) I don't know if I screwed anything up while doing it, I have yet to stumble into a silent-grey-screens situation myself, so I can't exactly test if the error reporting works, which is why I'm not making a release. Nothing actually changed in KSP 0.24.1 that would make RPM 0.18 stop working, so there's no particular reason to update otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderJohnKoenig Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Mihara, Thanks for the info. I'll continue using current version and if I notice any problems I'll let you know. Thanks also for your great mod. I love this one. Lots of fun for us old school gamers that remember the Moon landings and dreamed of being there ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecan Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 is someone able to see a map with ScanSat screen? Yes, I have SCANSat (6.1) working on RPM (0.18). Hit the 'nav' button if everything's installed properly, and you have a map to display, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderJohnKoenig Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Yes, I have SCANSat (6.1) working on RPM (0.18). Hit the 'nav' button if everything's installed properly, and you have a map to display, of course. I can second this. Same result here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizopiloto Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 yes... that was a problem with another mod...but now, with the new patch game don't even load... I think Module Manager is the cause... not sure...it gives a [Exception]: NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an objectonce I remove module manager and all mods that uses it, game loads normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raziel420 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 yes... that was a problem with another mod...but now, with the new patch game don't even load... I think Module Manager is the cause... not sure...it gives a [Exception]: NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an objectonce I remove module manager and all mods that uses it, game loads normally.Had the same issue, but started from scratch, modulemanager does not seem to be the problem (works with module manager) but some other mod interacting wrongly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizopiloto Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) found the culprits... NavUtilities HSI is causing a nullref in ModuleManager. Edited July 25, 2014 by luizopiloto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderJohnKoenig Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Now we have to do it all over again. .24.2 update. Time to be patient everyone. Our hard working mod makers have to go back and do another fix. Everyone have a beer and praise be to the mod makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihara Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Now we have to do it all over again. .24.2 update. Time to be patient everyone. Our hard working mod makers have to go back and do another fix. Everyone have a beer and praise be to the mod makers.Pfft, RPM actually didn't break. But like I said, if you're having problems, try the prerelease which I've just recompiled for 0.24.2 just in case: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532373/RasterPropMonitor%200.18.1.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderJohnKoenig Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Pfft, RPM actually didn't break. But like I said, if you're having problems, try the prerelease which I've just recompiled for 0.24.2 just in case: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532373/RasterPropMonitor%200.18.1.zip I'm glad to hear it Mihara, I'm still going to drink a beer in your honor. Thanks a million for your work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudgetHedgehog Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Ohhh, so THAT'S what JSI stands for! I've always wondered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihara Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 Ohhh, so THAT'S what JSI stands for! I've always wondered...But that's written on the home page of every monitor, how could you miss it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudgetHedgehog Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 But that's written on the home page of every monitor, how could you miss it? Selective vision + I never really made the connection. I can be a bit slow sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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