Please make the location of the handhold ladder on the Mk1-2 Command Pod sane.

[Dunbaratu]

You can only rotate a part by exactly 90 degrees. Therefore when the ladder of the Mk1-2 Command pod is rotated 30 degress off from the ladders embedded in all the other parts in the game, there isn't a thing you can do about it. It's impossible to make it line up. This has been a problem for many versions now and it's getting a bit silly.

I refer to this:

[Black_Tomcat]

Objection:

You can turn in 5 degree steps using Shift + WASDQE.

However, I do agree that it still is annoying to have this one part that doesn't fit in.

[Dunbaratu]

Objection:

You can turn in 5 degree steps using Shift + WASDQE.

Wait... you CAN? Gaargh why is so much basic functionality of this game a secret easter egg?! I've played over 1000 hours and never found that.

I agree, that given that previously unknown fact it does rather mitigate the need for my request. It's still a bit annoying that the weird ladder alignment means you have to build a rather weirdly skewed looking craft to make the ladder line up but at least it's possible. (i.e. the fact that the cockpit's idea of "up" on the navball can't line up properly with the rest of the craft if you rotate the capsule to get the ladder to line up is still a bit annoying. )

Edited December 23, 2013 by Steven Mading

[vexx32]

Yeah. The controls list on the wiki lists all the hidden stuff, but there really needs to be a screen in-game that lists all the editor commands and so forth.

EDIT: I think that the small increments are actually 15 degrees, not 5... but yes, you can properly orient the pod as you see fit.

[Eric S]

Pretty sure that the small increments are 5 degrees, and it takes 5 shift-e to rotate the habitat to line up with the mk1-2 capsule (not an exact match, but six of them is too far).

I'd actually prefer it if the hitchhiker and lab module were permanently rotated by the same amount so that the ladders line up without having to place RCS quads over the ladders/hatches.

[StarkRG]

The "snap" is 15 degrees, the shift-rotate is 5 (you can get more snap and symmetry options with the Editor Extensions mod.

I don't think it's any more hidden than any of the other key bindings. That'd be like saying that the different camera modes or quicksave are hidden. They're not hidden, there just isn't a built-in key reference so you have to pull out your phone or tablet to look them up.

[technicalfool]

If you open settings.cfg in a text editor, it'll show you all the various sneaky Easter eggs that are hidden away behind undocumented keyboard shortcuts.

I guess it's just one of those things on the "to-do" list before 1.0.

[Kasuha]

Mk1-2 command pod's ladder is unusual but it actually makes the pod rather convenient to mount symmetric stuff like RCS ports. So I prefer if it stays the way it is. There are ways how to get Kerbals around:

Edited December 24, 2013 by Kasuha

[thereaverofdarkness]

the small increments are probably 5 degrees exactly. It takes 18 of them to go 90 degrees.

They might be alternating 4 and 6 degrees for all I know. But I think they're 5.

[Dunbaratu]

There are ways how to get Kerbals around:

Except that I'd tried that solution many times before and it never works. The kerbalnaut just refuses to move onto a ladder facing 90 degrees off from the one he's currently on.