High inclination Launch Center in Germany?

[Nephf]

I found someone made plans fo a Space Center in Peenemuende/Germany. It says that there would be Falcon and Atlas V launches at the place, where Wernher von Braun developed and tested his Aggregat 4 rocket and invented the time of space flight. The place is at 54° 8', so there could be flights with an inclination from 54° to 90° in order to not flying over countryside. What do you think of this?

Edited December 25, 2013 by Nephf

[Camacha]

It very much depends on who that someone is

[Tex_NL]

If you're going to build a space center in western Europe Peenemuende might indeed be one of the better locations. It's location on the Baltic coast gives it a wide open area to the east where failing rockets can't do too much damage.

With a latitude of 54° 8' it isn't even too far off the ISS' maximum inclination (51.65°).

P.S.

A link to your source would be appreciated by many.

[Nephf]

A link to your source would be appreciated by many.

Sorry but this wasn't any web source

[Tex_NL]

Don't get me wrong, I like this to be true. But without any reliable source this is just hearsay and scuttlebutt.

Both the Atlas V and Falcon 9 mentioned on the map are modern rockets. Therefor the 'plan' must date from no later than the turn of the century. The only things I have been able to find thus far on a Peenemünde space center is either WWII related or fictional.

[Nephf]

So I now found it. It's a local Facebook site.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=623703147687453&set=a.623703207687447.1073741826.623701394354295&type=1&theater

Edited December 25, 2013 by Nephf

[Canopus]

It would definetly be very cool and interesting but i haven't heard of it ever before. I wish it would happen though.

[Tex_NL]

So I now found it. It's a local Facebook site.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=623703147687453&set=a.623703207687447.1073741826.623701394354295&type=1&theater

Thanks for that link. Now I know it's not true.

How? I hear you say. Easy! I let some Google-Fu loose on that image and guess what I found: That images is NOT the so called Peenemünde Space Center but is in fact Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral.

So called Peenemünde Space Center: https://www.facebook.com/wvbsc

Space Launch Complex 41: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Canaveral_Air_Force_Station_Space_Launch_Complex_41

Too bad.

Edited December 25, 2013 by Tex_NL

[Nephf]

Well, look at the text of that picture

(or take Google translater)

[Canopus]

He is right though. And now that i took a look at the Facebook page i would say this is nothing believable. Too bad.

[Nephf]

Yaeh, very bad but I like the idea

[Kryten]

I don't think the norweigans, finns balts or russians would would. Given the length of time the first stage on a falcon 9 burns, the drop zone would probably be outside the baltic; definitely so for a polar launch.

[Nephf]

As Falcon 9 is completely reuseable, the drop zone is exactly the launch site.

[Nuke]

apparently there is a space center on kodiak island. my first thought was why would anyone build a space center in alaska.

[Canopus]

As Falcon 9 is completely reuseable, the drop zone is exactly the launch site.

The Falcon 9 is not completely reusable.

[Nephf]

apparently there is a space center on kodiak island. my first thought was why would anyone build a space center in alaska.

Fom Kodiak exactly 3 orbital missions were launched. It is Compareable with the Meillerwagen.

The Falcon 9 is not completely reusable.

Of course it is

[Canopus]

Of course it is

Its not. The video you have there is about the proposed reusable Falcon 9.

[Nephf]

http://www.spacex.com/falcon9

[Nuke]

Fom Kodiak exactly 3 orbital missions were launched. It is Compareable with the Meillerwagen.

omg lies!

they have a vab, tower, and 2 pads.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodiak_Launch_Complex

http://www.akaerospace.com/

Edited December 26, 2013 by Nuke

[Nephf]

omg lies!

they have a vab, tower, and 2 pads.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodiak_Launch_Complex

http://www.akaerospace.com/

I KNOW Kodiak Launch Complex. But if you wish to use it as a common launch center for Rockets with payloads heavier than 2 tons, you have to build as much infrastructure as if you would build a launchpad on the moon, because it is located in the middle of nothing .

[m1xte]

Peenemünde has a little history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFZudxPNYcQ

[Nephf]

I know that film already. of course no rocket launched from there since 1945. But its location is very well for flights.

[Canopus]

Sorry m1xte but you don't say.

As if somebody wouldn't know that.

[Kryten]

I KNOW Kodiak Launch Complex. But if you wish to use it as a common launch center for Rockets with payloads heavier than 2 tons, you have to build as much infrastructure as if you would build a launchpad on the moon, because it is located in the middle of nothing .

There are thousands of people on Kodiak, and a large USCG base; it's not as if we're talking about Antarctica here. It's certainly got a lot more relevant infrastructure than Peenemünde, unless you're proposing reusing Prüfstand VII.

[Nephf]

So if you have a look at the Pictures you'll see that the 2 fictional pads are about 1-2 kilometers away from the old one, and fact is that Kodiak was opened 15 years ago and had 3 successful orbital launche now, and these were Athena I (820 kg LEO) and Minotaur IV (1745kg LEO) launchers. The Minotaur IV has 2/3 the diameter, 2x the hight and 9x the thrust of the A 4.