HotRockets! Particle FX Replacement + Tutorial

[HafCoJoe]

XD one more question. Is there any possible way to make the smoke spawn moving in the direction of the flame, and not in the retrograde direction like this? I'm sort of doubting it though.

Note that I don't mean moving the smoke so it spawns at the end of the flame. I mean have it spawn moving the correct direction.

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UPDATE: I have had no problems with the current release in 1.0.3. It appears to be compatible. Woo!

Edited June 23, 2015 by Avera9eJoe

[WolfGeek101]

UPDATE: I have had no problems with the current release in 1.0.3. It appears to be compatible. Woo!

Not exactly...the jets are a bit wonky:

[HafCoJoe]

Not exactly...the jets are a bit wonky:

http://puu.sh/iAb68/5c17b3c322.png

Oh XD I forgot about the new jet effects.

[Nothalogh]

Not exactly...the jets are a bit wonky:

http://puu.sh/iAb68/5c17b3c322.png

Yeah, they even do that in space

[WolfGeek101]

I have a fix in the works, testing now.

Update: Taking longer than expected, those effects just won't give up!

Edited June 23, 2015 by WolfGeek101

[WolfGeek101]

YES! I did it, and it works perfectly!

Just replace the squad_hotrockets.cfg with this one, and everything will work fine:

http://www./download/2pcbo2kdoxbauuz/squad_hotrockets.cfg

Cheers!

[HafCoJoe]

YES! I did it, and it works perfectly!

Just replace the squad_hotrockets.cfg with this one, and everything will work fine:

http://www./download/2pcbo2kdoxbauuz/squad_hotrockets.cfg

Cheers!

Nice! I have my own custom config for smoke so I'll take your jet engine configs and replace them in my config.

[sebi.zzr]

YES! I did it, and it works perfectly!

Just replace the squad_hotrockets.cfg with this one, and everything will work fine:

http://www./download/2pcbo2kdoxbauuz/squad_hotrockets.cfg

Cheers!

Congratulation for your success,but unfortunately you totally mixed up new(ModuleEnginesFX) and old(ModuleEngines).There is much simpler and proper way to edit new effects.Here are two examples for "basic jet" and "turbojet":

@PART[turboFanEngine]

{

@EFFECTS

{

@shockDiamond

{

@MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE

{

| = MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST

@emission,1 = 0.85 0

@emission,2 = 0.9 1

@emission,3 = 0.1 1.5

energy = 0.7 0

energy = 1 0.9

logGrow

{

power = 0 0

power = 1 -1

}

}

}

@running_turbine

{

@MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE

{

| = MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST

@modelName = MP_Nazari/FX/flamejet

@emission,1 = 0.67 0.8

@emission,2 = 0.71 1.4

@emission,3 = 1.0 1.5

@speed,0 = 0.0 1.5

@speed,1 = 1.0 1.6

size = 0 1.6 // 0 1.0 for ven stock revamp

size = 1 1.5 // 1 1.35 for ven stock revamp

energy = 0.0 0.3

energy = 0.7 0.33

energy = 1.0 0.99

logGrow

{

power = 0 5

power = 1 -0.5

}

}

}

}

}

@PART[JetEngine]

{

@EFFECTS

{

@running_thrust

{

-PREFAB_PARTICLE{}

MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST

{

name = smokethrust

modelName = MP_Nazari/FX/smokejet

transformName = thrustTransform

emission = 0.0 0.0

emission = 0.07 0.0

emission = 0.2 0.4

emission = 1.0 1.1

energy = 0.0 0.2

energy = 1.0 3.2

speed = 0.0 1.0

speed = 1.0 0.8

grow = 0.0 0.0

grow = 1.0 0.15

scale = 0.0 1.0

scale = 1.0 1.0

offset = 0.0 0.0

offset = 1.0 0.5

size = 0.0 1.0

size = 1.0 1.1

fixedEmissions = true

fixedScale = 1.0

sizeClamp = 50

emission

{

mach = 0.0 1.0

mach = 0.8 1.0

mach = 1.0 1.0

density = 1.0 1.0

density = 0.4 1.0

density = 0.3 1.0

density = 0.002 1.0

density = 0.001 0.0

}

}

}

@running_turbine

{

MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST

{

name = flamejet3

modelName = MP_Nazari/FX/flamejet3

transformName = thrustTransform

emission = 0.0 0.0

emission = 0.42 0.0

emission = 0.54 1.55

emission = 1.0 1.78

speed = 0.0 1.45

speed = 1.0 0.55

energy = 0.0 0.05

energy = 0.5 0.77

energy = 1.0 0.99

fixedEmissions = false

}

}

}

}

Edited June 26, 2015 by sebi.zzr

[WolfGeek101]

Congratulation for your success,but unfortunately you totally mixed up new(ModuleEnginesFX) and old(ModuleEngines).There is much simpler and proper way to edit new effects.Here are two examples for "basic jet" and "turbojet":

@PART[turboFanEngine]

{

@EFFECTS

{

@shockDiamond

{

@MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE

{

| = MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST

@emission,1 = 0.8 0

@emission,2 = 0.85 1

@emission,3 = 0.1 1.5

energy = 0.7 0

energy = 1.0 0.9

logGrow

{

power = 0 0

power = 1 -1

}

}

}

@running_turbine

{

@MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE

{

| = MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST

@modelName = MP_Nazari/FX/flamejet

@emission,1 = 0.67 0.8

@emission,2 = 0.71 1.4

@emission,3 = 1.0 1.5

@speed,0 = 0.0 1.5

@speed,1 = 1.0 1.2

size = 0 1.6

size = 1 1.5

energy = 0.0 0.3

energy = 0.7 0.33

energy = 1.0 0.99

logGrow

{

power = 0 5

power = 1 -0.5

}

}

}

}

}

@PART[JetEngine]

{

@EFFECTS

{

@running_thrust

{

-PREFAB_PARTICLE{}

MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST

{

name = smokethrust

modelName = MP_Nazari/FX/smokejet

transformName = thrustTransform

emission = 0.0 0.0

emission = 0.07 0.0

emission = 0.2 0.4

emission = 1.0 1.1

energy = 0.0 0.2

energy = 1.0 3.2

speed = 0.0 1.0

speed = 1.0 0.8

grow = 0.0 0.0

grow = 1.0 0.15

scale = 0.0 1.0

scale = 1.0 1.0

offset = 0.0 0.0

offset = 1.0 0.5

size = 0.0 1.0

size = 1.0 1.1

fixedEmissions = true

fixedScale = 1.0

sizeClamp = 50

emission

{

mach = 0.0 1.0

mach = 0.8 1.0

mach = 1.0 1.0

density = 1.0 1.0

density = 0.4 1.0

density = 0.3 1.0

density = 0.002 1.0

density = 0.001 0.0

}

}

}

@running_turbine

{

MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST

{

name = flamejet3

modelName = MP_Nazari/FX/flamejet3

transformName = thrustTransform

emission = 0.0 0.0

emission = 0.42 0.0

emission = 0.54 1.55

emission = 1.0 1.78

speed = 0.0 1.45

speed = 1.0 0.55

energy = 0.0 0.05

energy = 0.5 0.77

energy = 1.0 0.99

fixedEmissions = false

}

}

}

}

Thank you for your help, and I really appreciate the smoothing out of the config, but I personally am just trying to be happy with myself for getting something to work in the first place. If you like the smoothed out config, where the stock particles are replaced, or if my config which brings in new particles and abolishes the old ones, I don't care. Just trying to improve the lives of people

Edited June 24, 2015 by WolfGeek101

[sebi.zzr]

I doubt,you are familiar with constructive critic concept.And FYA,you are not improving anybody's life,you just make it more complicated.Please look at ModuleManager.ConfigCache and see how your pach is working.

Sorry for,me going into defense mode.

[WolfGeek101]

I doubt,you are familiar with constructive critic concept.And FYA,you are not improving anybody's life,you just make it more complicated.Please look at ModuleManager.ConfigCache and see how your pach is working.

Sorry for,me going into defense mode.

I apologize as well for going into defense mode. Our patches do the same thing, yours much simpler than mine, and I congratulate you.

I guess it's up to the user to decide which config they like better.

Edited June 24, 2015 by WolfGeek101

[blnk2007]

Has anyone had problems with flames continuing after burnout?

[WolfGeek101]

Are you using sebi.zzr's config? If so, it should work.

Edited June 24, 2015 by WolfGeek101

[Virtualgenius]

Perhaps we could create a thread under releases that has the current working Hot Rockets configs its starting to get quite confusing which ones are working and what ones are not seeing as this is the development thread I dont see this as an unreasonable request

[blnk2007]

Are you using sebi.zzr's config? If so, it should work.

Are you talking to me?

[WolfGeek101]

Are you talking to me?

Oh, yes, sorry for not quoting. I've found no issue with that in either of our configurations, you may want to double check.

[blnk2007]

Oh, yes, sorry for not quoting. I've found no issue with that in either of our configurations, you may want to double check.

I should probably clarify. This happens on quite a few engines, not just jet engines. Will this new config be part of the next update?

[smunisto]

As nice as the mod is, the lack of information with regard to updates/cfg compatibilities ruins the experience every new patch.

The patches posted above do not fix the issues that appear each new patch - flames even without actual thrust. I tried the patches posted above - they do not work. The exaust changes, yes, but does not disappear when there is no throttle.

[Virtualgenius]

Could the guys doing the fixes please start a community hot rockets fixes thread and post the working configs like I asked a few posts ago, its very frustrating trying to find the correct working configs

[HafCoJoe]

Could the guys doing the fixes please start a community hot rockets fixes thread and post the working configs like I asked a few posts ago, its very frustrating trying to find the correct working configs

This is a great idea actually. I can run one if no one else wants to. I'd ask Akira_R as he seems to be the guy who knows it all. xD

[sebi.zzr]

As nice as the mod is, the lack of information with regard to updates/cfg compatibilities ruins the experience every new patch.

The patches posted above do not fix the issues that appear each new patch - flames even without actual thrust. I tried the patches posted above - they do not work. The exaust changes, yes, but does not disappear when there is no throttle.

Can you post a screenshot with your problem?

[blnk2007]

As nice as the mod is, the lack of information with regard to updates/cfg compatibilities ruins the experience every new patch.

The patches posted above do not fix the issues that appear each new patch - flames even without actual thrust. I tried the patches posted above - they do not work. The exaust changes, yes, but does not disappear when there is no throttle.

This is exactly what I am talking about.

Can you post a screenshot with your problem?

The screenshot will just show that the thrust is at zero and flames are still being produced. I've seen this happen even after separating a spent stage. Flames still shoot out of the empty separated stage.

[Nothalogh]

Can you post a screenshot with your problem?

All engines disabled, throttle at zero, Whiplash still displaying exhaust flame

[HafCoJoe]

All engines disabled, throttle at zero, Whiplash still displaying exhaust flame

http://i.imgur.com/X8N9xSi.png

That's a bug specifically with that engine (idk if it's on the other jet). I don't know if a fix that works though.

[sebi.zzr]

All engines disabled, throttle at zero, Whiplash still displaying exhaust flame

http://i.imgur.com/X8N9xSi.png

This is because you are using old configs(pre 1.0.3,Squad changed both jet engines from ModuleEngines to ModuleEnginesFX).You have to open squad hotrockets.cfg with text editor and delete config for "JetEngine" and "turboFanEngine",then you can use my patch.There is no meaning to post something that don't work.