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You know, I never though I'd be utterly and completely fascinated (I watched all this guys videos last night. Every single minute) by something that to most people is probably about as exciting as watching Harry Potter go to the bathroom compared to the big picture of what this was all a part of. Makes the entirety of the Apollo program seem even more real than I've ever felt it was. (And thats not to say that I ever doubted what we did. But actually seeing and hearing it makes all the difference)

Its also just plain awesome to see the astronauts screwing around at times.

But anyway, just thought I'd share this for those who haven't seen it. I had hoped I could find similar recordings for Apollo 11, but so far my search has not yielded much more than what I've already seen just from growing up so close to Kennedy. (I can walk there from my house :D)
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Look at how filthy they were! Dealing with lunar dust is one of the big challenges of any future missions. It might even be the cause of the Chang'e 3 rover problems...

Was the dangers of that dust not really known back then? Because im really surprised the Apollo 17 astronauts didn't have a problem. Three EVAs iirc.. and they fell a few times.. Im pretty sure they brushed eachother off as best they could before returning back into the LEM, but still..

Future missions are going to need some sort of air-hose to really clean up. And a lot of upkeep on the suits.

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Was the dangers of that dust not really known back then? Because im really surprised the Apollo 17 astronauts didn't have a problem. Three EVAs iirc.. and they fell a few times.. Im pretty sure they brushed eachother off as best they could before returning back into the LEM, but still..

Future missions are going to need some sort of air-hose to really clean up. And a lot of upkeep on the suits.

No brushing helped them. They were filthy as pigs. After several EVAs, they were sweaty and the dust was everywhere. Imagine the smell inside the ship at the end of the mission.

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Future missions are going to need some sort of air-hose to really clean up. And a lot of upkeep on the suits.

Air hose would just displace the dust. You would still bog up filters. Due to the lack of erosion, each particle of moon dust has tiny sharp edges, like glass shards, making it extremely abrasive. Not safe to breath either. It's also very fine and static, which makes it get into every little nook and cranny, which can cause big trouble on moving parts.

Future missions will use suitports to avoid contaminating the interior of the vehicle. Basically, the suit has a rear hatch that attaches to the airlock. The suit stays outside and the astronauts climb into it.

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Air hose would just displace the dust. You would still bog up filters. Due to the lack of erosion, each particle of moon dust has tiny sharp edges, like glass shards, making it extremely abrasive. Not safe to breath either. It's also very fine and static, which makes it get into every little nook and cranny, which can cause big trouble on moving parts.

Future missions will use suitports to avoid contaminating the interior of the vehicle. Basically, the suit has a rear hatch that attaches to the airlock. The suit stays outside and the astronauts climb into it.

But what about the suit itself? That devil dust would eat away at joints and seals like it was nothing. I'd wanna keep that thing as clean as possible via an exterior air hose ( cO2 maybe ). Just blast the dust off before I'm done the EVA. Especialy if the suit had to last. Go to bend over one day, next thing you know *hisssss*. Got problems..

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But what about the suit itself? That devil dust would eat away at joints and seals like it was nothing. I'd wanna keep that thing as clean as possible via an exterior air hose ( cO2 maybe ). Just blast the dust off before I'm done the EVA. Especialy if the suit had to last. Go to bend over one day, next thing you know *hisssss*. Got problems..

The suit would stay outside, be used only for the EVAs, then never again. For the few hours of an Apollo style mission that's good enough.

And there won't ever be something longer as long as we're talking space exploration rather than exploitation, as long as manned space travel is a political game rather than driven by economic incentives.

And when those economic incentives are there, I'm sure the geniuses working in corporate engineering departments can come up with something that works, maybe multiple nested airlocks.

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Cling film comes to mind. Wrap the suit before each EVA and cut it off before entry into the airlock after the EVA is over. Heck, multi million dollar problem solved with a dollar worth of plastic film :-)

God forbid we would actually use something that simple and straightforward !

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