Gentlemen's Naval Battle Club

[astecarmyman]

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The missiles can sink ocean dreadnoughts. It can also crush any land vehicle.

I doubt you have the pinpoint accuracy to manage to hit a tank Maybe if it was Zeke's Tog II but you must understand that the missile itself is larger than the tank you are aiming at. And keep in mind that the tank you are aiming at managed to shrug off one of my Panther I's HEAT cannons (the projectile gets up to 600m/s at long ranges)

[Megalodon 720]

Still not enough to sink my ship.

[andrew123]

You have to remember the mass of one of these missiles. It easily achieves over 300 m/s with extreme accuracy.

[Megalodon 720]

But i have a feeling it would simply bounce off the side of my Britannic.

[andrew123]

Part welding does not count as stock. Imagine what it would do to an unwelded vessel.

[ScriptKitt3h]

Part welding does not count as stock. Imagine what it would do to an unwelded vessel.

Yup, plus even if a ship (aquatic or vacuum-based) hull survives a normally devastating hit, the sheer kinetic force will more often than not turn its insides to a pulp.

That immediately makes the armor/hull strength only somewhat effective, since without internals (fuel, engines, ammo reserves, power generation/batteries, and crew modules/probe cores), a ship is essentially a giant metallic rock.

That's why I spam-fire I-beam rounds from my starships in combat, as that type of attack has time and time again managed to induce this "kinetic overload" effect upon impact.

For surface combat, similar tactics may be effective, but using different weapons (such as cluster bombs, shrapnel-filled frag rounds, etc.).

Edited June 10, 2014 by ScriptKitt3h

[Megalodon 720]

I know, the ship wasn't to be used for combat but rather to look like what I was trying to replicate.

[astecarmyman]

Yup, plus even if a ship (aquatic or vacuum-based) hull survives a normally devastating hit, the sheer kinetic force will more often than not turn its insides to a pulp.

That immediately makes the armor/hull strength only somewhat effective, since without internals (fuel, engines, ammo reserves, power generation/batteries, and crew modules/probe cores), a ship is essentially a giant metallic rock.

That's why I spam-fire I-beam rounds from my starships in combat, as that type of attack has time and time again managed to induce this "kinetic overload" effect upon impact.

I-beam spam isn't very effective vs Hybrid armor.

[ScriptKitt3h]

I'm temped to make write a "thesis" on KSP combat tactics and techniques..... just to gather info and to have a nice knowledge pool for newer players/all-stock military builders.

What do ya'll think? That, or perhaps some sort of "Volume 1" of a KSP GNBC encyclopedia?

(Also, this might come in handy if griefing and piracy become commonplace in KSP MP servers whenever SQUAD creates the official MP update.)

Edited June 10, 2014 by ScriptKitt3h

[ScriptKitt3h]

I-beam spam isn't very effective vs Hybrid armor.

To which "hybrid armor" are you referring to? I tend to use that definition to describe armor plating that works like this:

Outer Layer = Wing Plate Armor

Under-layer = Reinforced Steel Plate Armor

It functions off of the "reactive armor" principle used IRL. A weaker outer layer can be damaged more easily, but in turn cancels out the vast majority of the kinetic energy being put into the ship hull, therefore severely increasing the strength of the under-layer by slowing down incoming fire near-instantly.

Plus, this makes for "realistic" battle scarring, such as the hull of my A.D.A. in the battle between me and BrightBritches.

Edited June 10, 2014 by ScriptKitt3h

[astecarmyman]

Hydra (the "damaged" one) burns towards the enemy

Destruction

Total Annihilation

If your Tri-Frigate's I-beam spam can't disable a Hydra.. What can?

Persist:

http://www.filedropper.com/persistent_3

[astecarmyman]

To which "hybrid armor" are you referring to? I tend to use that definition to describe armor plating that works like this:

Outer Layer = Wing Plate Armor

Under-layer = Reinforced Steel Plate Armor

Well yes, that is the Hybrid Armor mounted on the Hydra. But on my Panther II a different version is mounted that makes I-beams just bounce off.

[ScriptKitt3h]

Well yes, that is the Hybrid Armor mounted on the Hydra. But on my Panther II a different version is mounted that makes I-beams just bounce off.

That's why smart tacticians always have a backup plan. I tend to always have one in the form of heavy ammo, such as SRBs, guided missiles, or special armor-piercing/cracking rounds (like ZS Shredders).

Also, get something large going fast enough with some explosive kick (LFO/Solid Fuel works great), and you can simply destroy almost anything. Of course, there's the problem of ammo weight, but that can be.... *in Matrix Agent voice* "worked around".

[Megalodon 720]

I am still developing a super tank you know...

[astecarmyman]

I am still developing a super tank you know...

Pics or it didn't happen!

The current super tanks are Vaos's Hell Rain, my Panther II, and allmharans Science Tank

[Spartwo]

Pics or it didn't happen!

The current super tanks are Vaos's Hell Rain, my Panther II, and allmharans Science Tank

20 tons isn't super.

[Megalodon 720]

It's secret, and construction has been halted to make way for Britannic.

[astecarmyman]

20 tons isn't super.

If it can survive a direct hit from one of my HEAT Panthers and survive, if it can bounce off I-beams, then it is SUPER.

Like me saying "2Ton warhead isn't super must zerg 700Ton warhead)

[Megalodon 720]

Mine would be classed as 'super heavy' due to it's weight of 79 tons

[andrew123]

My unsc prowler uses a very different form of hybrid armor, but the destroyer I built survived gigantic I beam spam barrages and srb strikes while remaining fully battle operational.

Megalodon can attest to that.

[Megalodon 720]

I can , I still have the craft file and use it to test experimental weapons but I still can't do massive damage.

[sdj64]

To which "hybrid armor" are you referring to? I tend to use that definition to describe armor plating that works like this:

Outer Layer = Wing Plate Armor

Under-layer = Reinforced Steel Plate Armor

It functions off of the "reactive armor" principle used IRL. A weaker outer layer can be damaged more easily, but in turn cancels out the vast majority of the kinetic energy being put into the ship hull, therefore severely increasing the strength of the under-layer by slowing down incoming fire near-instantly.

Plus, this makes for "realistic" battle scarring, such as the hull of my A.D.A. in the battle between me and BrightBritches.

This. Or really any armor that uses both plates and wings. Seems everyone is calling any armor "hybrid" and it's confusing since you all are really using different armor methods.

[BrightBritches]

Yup, plus even if a ship (aquatic or vacuum-based) hull survives a normally devastating hit, the sheer kinetic force will more often than not turn its insides to a pulp.

That immediately makes the armor/hull strength only somewhat effective, since without internals (fuel, engines, ammo reserves, power generation/batteries, and crew modules/probe cores), a ship is essentially a giant metallic rock.

That's why I spam-fire I-beam rounds from my starships in combat, as that type of attack has time and time again managed to induce this "kinetic overload" effect upon impact.

For surface combat, similar tactics may be effective, but using different weapons (such as cluster bombs, shrapnel-filled frag rounds, etc.).

Its almost like you pulverized the insides of someone's ship recently! I wonder who!

[astecarmyman]

My unsc prowler uses a very different form of hybrid armor, but the destroyer I built survived gigantic I beam spam barrages and srb strikes while remaining fully battle operational.

Megalodon can attest to that.

Your ships are so Gigantic that I-beam barrages will not damage it because they are so small in comparison (Spaced armor helps too)

I challenge you to make a ship that DOESN'T cause immense lag and will survive the aforementioned punishment.

[andrew123]

That destroyer is one of my smallest ships and induces no lag on my computer with an amd processor from a few months ago. I will upgrade the prowler to have fuel and engine survivability soon.