bADiTCH Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Hey Porkjet love the pack! Do you have plans to make a mono-propellant tank in the MK2? I got tired of not having a nice streamlined one that I modified the drone core as a duplicate part, took away the electric charge and vessel type then put mono-propellant in it's place. Tweaked the texture a bit by adding a yellow band and warning markings. But would prefer a official part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabor Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Dang where did you get the kick butt engine from? That is really nice, I'd like to get my hands on it too!It's one that comes with KSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaske Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Ah your using a piece that hide the engine, I was talking about the hull piece and thought it was a full engine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_v Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 This is one seriously slick mod, small spaceplanes just got a whole lot more interesting Jeb approves, and so do I.Quick question: Is there a reason the mk2CrewCabin has crashTolerance = 6breakingForce = 200breakingTorque = 200 whereas say, mk2Fuselage_L, hascrashTolerance = 50breakingForce = 50breakingTorque = 50?Experimental testing (read: droping on the runway) confirms; the crew cabins are indeed far more explosive than any other fuselage part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvoification Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I just downloaded the new version for .24.2, but all of the spaceplane plus wings have completely disappeared? Even in sandbox mode, they don't exist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I just downloaded the new version for .24.2, but all of the spaceplane plus wings have completely disappeared? Even in sandbox mode, they don't exist!what new version?- - - Updated - - -Well, the strange thing is FAR didn't had any effect on the plane shown above, so it flew as if FAR wasn't installed. This issue was however limited to non-stock parts; a plane made entirely out of stock parts, responded to FAR very well. When I replaced ModuleManager 2.2.0 with 2.2.1, the problem was gone and every part is now subject to FAR. Don't know exactly what changed though ...do you have sp+ far cfg file in the install dictionary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Tao Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Harvoification,Sounds like SP+ wasn't installed correctly. The Parts folder should be in KSP/GameData/SpaceplanePlus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfondoo Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Still adore this mod. However I want to make a request if I may?The only part I feel is missing from this pack (and the stock game) is a mk2 to 2.5m adapter. Often I find myself clipping lots of parts together trying to make a nice smooth transition but the mk2 shape just doesn't really transition all that well. It would be great if you could include something like this in the future.Thanks for all the work you've put into this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 You have got to try kerbonite with this mod (generaly its wings) so much awesomeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 This is one seriously slick mod, small spaceplanes just got a whole lot more interesting Jeb approves, and so do I.Quick question: Is there a reason the mk2CrewCabin has crashTolerance = 6breakingForce = 200breakingTorque = 200 whereas say, mk2Fuselage_L, hascrashTolerance = 50breakingForce = 50breakingTorque = 50?Experimental testing (read: droping on the runway) confirms; the crew cabins are indeed far more explosive than any other fuselage part Kerbals build everything out of corbomite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitokiri Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Hi, I really like this mod, however I have one point about capacity of crew module:It seems to me little bit undercapacitated given that 6 kerbals can fit into cargo bay and cargo bay is 2/3 of crew module. Just saying that this is not habitat module, but rather charter flight cabin, so it may be bit tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmorpher Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 ^Just call it economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkjet Posted August 6, 2014 Author Share Posted August 6, 2014 Yes, the cabin could easily hold 6 crew, if it was made of tinfoil and didnt have any other pieces of equipment/technology/Lifesupport in it. You'll see how tight its in there for 4 kerbals once I get around to make the internal model for it. Another important point to consider is what number of crew makes sense from a gameplay perspective, given the parts size and mass compared to the rest of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondafarr Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Besides, you expect Jeb to fly cargo/business class? gotta have room for the reclining seats and stewardess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Javascript is disabled. View full albumengines go a bit fast but its really awesome , spesificly for this mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitokiri Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Besides, you expect Jeb to fly cargo/business class? gotta have room for the reclining seats and stewardess!Well, it is space program, I expect military class, so benches.I would by size compare it with Concorde (about same performance needed, including radiation shielding) where fuselage of width 2.87m and height of 1,96m fits 4 people and aisle (note that Kerblas are 1/2 the size compared to Human). Crew module is 2,5m long, in easyJet airplane you have 74cm between rows. so in worst case scenario in similar space as your crew module, there will be 12 humans in Airbus A320... Given that kerbals are small and whatever else life support needed on board, It seems to me that 6-8 kerbals should fit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nli2work Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 http://imgur.com/a/XKH3tengines go a bit fast but its really awesome , spesificly for this mod.how did you attach the air scoops? octocube struts? added stack nodes? the jets already have Ka intakes. Cool looking ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 how did you attach the air scoops? octocube struts? added stack nodes? the jets already have Ka intakes. Cool looking ship!yep the octocube, i made more images for in game usage rather then perspectives in hangar (now it was a v2), its totaly awesome, if you dont like the recources you can s easily edit all the jet engines to use lf , intake to keep forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolari Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Great mod! I'd love to see a Mk2 to 2.5m adapter in a future release, if that would be possible.I second this emotion. In the mean time, I hacked up this: http://i.imgur.com/elWDDmf.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I second this emotion. In the mean time, I hacked up this: http://i.imgur.com/elWDDmf.pngHow about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUberGr Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Reached 2132.3m/s with this baby. The design is clearly the SR-71 only with some changes. BTW is it natural to flame-out at 26-27km no matter the amount of intakes you put on your plane?This is another inspired by the B2 Stealth bomber. Notice the complete absence of vertical wings. Despite this fact it flies surprisingly well. It has also reached the 2000m/s area. I think 1981m/s, not sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Reached 2132.3m/s with this baby. The design is clearly the SR-71 only with some changes. BTW is it natural to flame-out at 26-27km no matter the amount of intakes you put on your plane? pure wrong, add more intakes, by more i mean a lot more, 1 or 2 intakes wont make much difference when air gets thin, when you look at my designs you can clearly see one of my signatures: abused air intakes , i once made a plane so filled with air intakes it with turbojet engine worked above 40 kms, i was able to reach orbit of 350 kms. could have pushed a lot higher but i had to cut the testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderfound Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Reached 2132.3m/s with this baby. The design is clearly the SR-71 only with some changes. BTW is it natural to flame-out at 26-27km no matter the amount of intakes you put on your plane?Tricks for high altitude jettage without air-hogging:* Shut down as many engines as possible to concentrate the remaining air. Over 30,000m the drag is so low that it only requires a small amount of thrust to continue accelerating.* Throttle down until your airtanks refill, then throttle back up as much as you can while keeping the tank levels stable.* Minimise angles of attack and climb rates. Aim the air at the intakes, not at the underside of the wings. By the time you hit 30,000m, you want your climb rate down to around 10m/s.You can get up to 35,000m or so with the jets still running if you do this. You don't need more than a couple of intakes per engine; one nacelle/ramscoop combo per jet usually does me fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Tricks for high altitude jettage without air-hogging:* Shut down as many engines as possible to concentrate the remaining air. Over 30,000m the drag is so low that it only requires a small amount of thrust to continue accelerating.* Throttle down until your airtanks refill, then throttle back up as much as you can while keeping the tank levels stable.* Minimise angles of attack and climb rates. Aim the air at the intakes, not at the underside of the wings. By the time you hit 30,000m, you want your climb rate down to around 10m/s.You can get up to 35,000m or so with the jets still running if you do this. You don't need more than a couple of intakes per engine; one nacelle/ramscoop combo per jet usually does me fine.Out of curiosity are you hitting these speeds with FAR and DRE installed or on stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Reached 2132.3m/s with this baby. The design is clearly the SR-71 only with some changes. BTW is it natural to flame-out at 26-27km no matter the amount of intakes you put on your plane?With that design, yes. Too many engines, not enough intake area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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