CrisK Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Ohoho, It's been a bizarre day. A big surprise to see this, but it makes me very happy Now that you are rich and famous, take us all out for drinks to celebrate the success of Tantares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindemherz Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Beale, Lexx Thai is right, LK has three-axis control; the thing here is that I think you and MACman have different frames of reference.Looking engine block to Kontakt, the 40kgf thrusters provide pitch and yaw, and the 10kgf provide roll (MACman's FOR).Looking like a cosmonaut out of the window, the 40kgf provide pitch and roll, and the 10kgf provide yaw (your FOR).Edit:Interestingly enough, astronauts in the LEM would have to do this frame of reference transition for CSM rendezvous, which worried some Grumman engineers a bit (the other engineers went more like "Meh, they're pilots; they'll handle"). I don't know if cosmonauts with Kontakt ever had to deal with that. Edited March 1, 2015 by lindemherz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) No. -> And not so big. Really, KSP have lack of really small things, especially ullage engines and separation engines. No, that is not landing radar.http://epizodsspace.airbase.ru/bibl/energia46-96/254.jpgAt this picture landing radar shown as #17.Thanks for the info!I must have gone a bit brain dead reading MACman's diagrams (he has deleted his post?).Yeah I would make the Nesting jets smaller than separatrons, plus they only need to fire for less than a second.Now that you are richBahahahah.... Beale, Lexx Thai is right, LK has three-axis control; the thing here is that I think you and MACman have different frames of reference.Looking engine block to Kontakt, the 40kgf thrusters provide pitch and yaw, and the 10kgf provide roll (MACman's FOR).Looking like a cosmonaut out of the window, the 40kgf provide pitch and roll, and the 10kgf provide yaw (your FOR).Edit:Interestingly enough, astronauts in the LEM would have to do this frame of reference transition for CSM rendezvous, which worried some Grumman engineers a bit (the other engineers went more like "Meh, they're pilots; they'll handle"). I don't know if cosmonauts with Kontakt ever had to deal with that.I recall the LEM-orientation-thing. They made a little deal out of it in the drama series (From the Earth to the Moon? With Tom Hanks).If people use the LK's docking window and not RPM or whatever, they'll have to switch the pitch controls, a interesting little challenge, but probably not disastrous.I'm just now making replacement flags for the current not-so-nice agency ones.Kerwell North West is the company I'm giving to the Gemini, ATV and Cygnus.Any suggestions? I'm not a graphic designer, nope.(Any submissions? That would be cool!)OR Edited March 1, 2015 by Beale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemand303 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Congrats Beale on the new wave of popularity! I love the ideas of the new RCS with complex thruster (although I'm not sure it can be easily implemented). I had a bizarre day too, but I'll look over already existing configs to make them ready for RealFuels and CRP update. You are doing great! Keep up with awesome stuff!EDIT: Oh, for the logo I might try something as well (although I'm not a designer too ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tygoo7 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I like the 2nd logo better than the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapejara Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) I'm just now making replacement flags for the current not-so-nice agency ones.Kerwell North West is the company I'm giving to the Gemini, ATV and Cygnus.Any suggestions? I'm not a graphic designer, nope.(Any submissions? That would be cool!)http://puu.sh/gi7p9/fd539be809.pngORhttp://puu.sh/gi7CV/f963702479.pngI like the second one.Afraid I'm not a graphic designer either so I can't help directly, but one thing I'd do is use different colours for different manufacturers. At present they're all blue and grey, which looks nice and neat but doesn't give them much personality.EDIT: I was just thinking that RSC Energia has a cool and distinctive logo, and I stumbled on this. Food for thought?http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/rkk-energia/process/ Edited March 1, 2015 by Tapejara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemand303 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I like the second one.Afraid I'm not a graphic designer either so I can't help directly, but one thing I'd do is use different colours for different manufacturers. At present they're all blue and grey, which looks nice and neat but doesn't give them much personality.That's actually a pretty good idea, I might try doing it, like light yellow/red for TST, blue for ADB etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZodiaK Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 here's my entry for the K-NW thingy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Thai Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I updated my previous post with another picture. I think, were several variants of LK construction. And the second picture I saw at one site with Landing Radar Unit photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Congrats Beale on the new wave of popularity! I love the ideas of the new RCS with complex thruster (although I'm not sure it can be easily implemented). I had a bizarre day too, but I'll look over already existing configs to make them ready for RealFuels and CRP update. You are doing great! Keep up with awesome stuff!EDIT: Oh, for the logo I might try something as well (although I'm not a designer too ).Thanks! You keep doing wonderful stuff! I like the 2nd logo better than the first.I like the second one.Afraid I'm not a graphic designer either so I can't help directly, but one thing I'd do is use different colours for different manufacturers. At present they're all blue and grey, which looks nice and neat but doesn't give them much personality.EDIT: I was just thinking that RSC Energia has a cool and distinctive logo, and I stumbled on this. Food for thought?http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/rkk-energia/process/That's actually a pretty good idea, I might try doing it, like light yellow/red for TST, blue for ADB etc.Wow, thanks for the feedback so quick! You may guess I'm not so creative with colour (Grey spaceships!), so that kind of stuff is interesting ideas.The link to RKK Energia is really nice!The work that goes into these designs is absurd! here's my entry for the K-NW thingy:http://i.imgur.com/cLMDnaX.pngooh! That's nice!It reminds me of Elite for sure! Would you mind if I re-purpose this for Tanto, the Fuji guys? I think the video-gamey look fits in! Or Damocles maybeI updated my previous post with another picture. I think, were several variants of LK construction. And the second picture I saw at one site with Landing Radar Unit photo.Thanks again!There is always differences between every picture of the LK that can be found.I'll have to go see one in person to be sure Edited March 1, 2015 by Beale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZodiaK Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 feel free to do what you want with the flag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) feel free to do what you want with the flagNice! Thanks Did a quick vectorize of it in Photoshop, though the little craft still needs detail.Edit:It could look okay without the detail, but I'm not sure. Edited March 1, 2015 by Beale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapejara Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Nice! Thanks Did a quick vectorize of it in Photoshop, though the little craft still needs detail.http://puu.sh/gidPV/5b7376e4bd.jpgThat's pretty cool as it is! A brighter/bolder red would be nice but that's just me being picky. Edited March 1, 2015 by Tapejara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 That's pretty cool as it is! A brighter/bolder red would be nice but that's just me being picky.Please, be picky!Feedback for this things is good.Interesting to try different colour schemes, even though I personally enjoy more quiet colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passinglurker Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 That's pretty cool as it is! A brighter/bolder red would be nice but that's just me being picky.I'd agree in my uncultured american way when I think japan I think brighter colors n_nEDIT: maybe a stronger contrast between the planet and the background? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 EDIT: maybe a stronger contrast between the planet and the background?mmmm... I don't know It makes my eyes bleed a little, but that just might be bad contact lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapejara Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Please, be picky!Feedback for this things is good.Interesting to try different colour schemes, even though I personally enjoy more quiet colours.http://puu.sh/giewI/911f5a2749.jpgHmm, too bright, maybe you were right to begin with Maybe move the text into the brighter blue bit, behind the craft?I guess it's a case of coming up with five or ten permutations and then picking or combining one or two from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hmm, too bright, maybe you were right to begin with Maybe move the text into the brighter blue bit, behind the craft?I guess it's a case of coming up with five or ten permutations and then picking or combining one or two from that.I think that's a good plan I'll have a look at the other companies in the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passinglurker Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 actually I meant a brighter background to contrast the dark planet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 actually I meant a brighter background to contrast the dark planet Aha, okay, yeah that is another interesting idea. It works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passinglurker Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 but wait if this is for the japanese equivalent shouldn't it be the planet in the center that is red? as in red planet, white background and ship, and blue thrust trial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) but wait if this is for the japanese equivalent shouldn't it be the planet in the center that is red? as in red planet, white background and ship, and blue thrust trial?That's pretty interesting!Though far from ZodiaK's design.HmmmOrOROROR... Edited March 1, 2015 by Beale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapejara Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 That's pretty interesting!Though far from ZodiaK's design.Hmmmhttp://puu.sh/gigWv/d4b0afae8a.jpgOrhttp://puu.sh/gih1v/e0edec5b3a.jpgORhttp://puu.sh/gih5s/004c1e35a9.jpgORhttp://puu.sh/gih7c/a53e532f67.jpgOR...http://puu.sh/gihvG/79cb0b95da.jpgI like that first one, the problem with removing the craft is that someone who hasn't seen the design process might think it's a wonky pink Pacman... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passinglurker Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Out of curiosity what would cherry red(at the brightest part but keep the shadow) and bright white get us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACman Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I must have gone a bit brain dead reading MACman's diagrams (he has deleted his post?).I wrote your nickname with a misprint. I have tried to edit the post. But he just disappeared. Apparently something went wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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