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[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [16.1][28.05.2024][Mars Expedition WIP]


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Wanted to show off some inspiration you gave me. Saw the post where you added a function of the Station Science mod to the Kervant. I took that and ran a little with it, adding the module experiments to Hamal Orbital, using the green to separate it from the standard Hamal. Additionally, I used a number of your "bits" to update an old probe mod I wanted to add for aesthetics. Thank you for all the work you put into this. However my dog is not a huge fan, as she has been needing to go outside for the last hour while I finished up the last part of the docking. :P

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Nice 2nd stage!

By the way: what you have on these screenshots is a first version of Proton (UR-500) - rated as 8 tons to LEO. Next versions (Proton-K and Proton-M) were 3-stage rockets.

Well, that is good to know!

Wanted to show off some inspiration you gave me. Saw the post where you added a function of the Station Science mod to the Kervant. I took that and ran a little with it, adding the module experiments to Hamal Orbital, using the green to separate it from the standard Hamal. Additionally, I used a number of your "bits" to update an old probe mod I wanted to add for aesthetics. Thank you for all the work you put into this. However my dog is not a huge fan, as she has been needing to go outside for the last hour while I finished up the last part of the docking. :P

http://imgur.com/a/PoeyF

Thanks!

That's a really nice probe, with the arms, what mod is that?

Your idea with the Hamal orbital module has got me thinking!

Hehe, my dog is the same! He has no love for Kerbal Space Program.

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Your idea with the Hamal orbital module has got me thinking!

The way I currently have it set up, is the novice way of copied files using 1 texture and each one with the module added to it. The green Hamal have their task, with the white ones utilizing the "repair parts" from Mission Controller and DangIt, standard issue grey is KAS and life support. The ATV and Cygnus, now have an option to transport Kibbal and other utilitarian goodies. Basically, Ive just gone nuts with Mod Mgr to add more function to nearly all my parts inventory and call it Kerbal Casserole. :P

What I want to find out, is there a MM way of cycling through modules on a single part like with textures? I know modular tanks allowed me to do resources, but not sure if module experiments would work in the same way.

that is a very old mod that i think is called like space diver or something that was originally from spaceport....'

Yes, it is Space Diver No. 6. I keep updating the little guy whenever I think of it, always a happy surprise to see the animations and lights work with all the changes to the game since its initial release.

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that is a very old mod that i think is called like space diver or something that was originally from spaceport....'
The way I currently have it set up, is the novice way of copied files using 1 texture and each one with the module added to it. The green Hamal have their task, with the white ones utilizing the "repair parts" from Mission Controller and DangIt, standard issue grey is KAS and life support. The ATV and Cygnus, now have an option to transport Kibbal and other utilitarian goodies. Basically, Ive just gone nuts with Mod Mgr to add more function to nearly all my parts inventory and call it Kerbal Casserole. :P

What I want to find out, is there a MM way of cycling through modules on a single part like with textures? I know modular tanks allowed me to do resources, but not sure if module experiments would work in the same way.

Yes, it is Space Diver No. 6. I keep updating the little guy whenever I think of it, always a happy surprise to see the animations and lights work with all the changes to the game since its initial release.

The ability to cycle through modules would be perfect. Sadly I'm not all that sure how it's done. I'll take a look at how B9 does it and see if I can knock up something similar!

Thanks for the SpaceDiver! It looks really cute, chance of a link? ( Or did it vanish with Spaceport?)

Hehe, guess I don't need to make my own Ariane-5 then :)

Stage 3 Engine

Four Verniers! That's right, four!

Basically a re-hash of the Stage 2 engine, don't judge me! :wink:

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hrm beale .... as a kerballike version of the thirdstage engine it looks really really cool :D reminds me of teh engines of the Kerbal Orbiter System - reusing stock textures and inspired shape really helps a lot to get the stock-a-like feeling. but i would like to see the verniers more at the "egde" of the engine mountplate. is it possible to give the verniers the gimbal without touching the main nozzle?

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Hehe, guess I don't need to make my own Ariane-5 then :)

That's a bit sad as I try to lower the number of mods used. But anyway, you are doing such a cool job with this pack!

Stage 3 Engine

Four Verniers! That's right, four!

Basically a re-hash of the Stage 2 engine, don't judge me! :wink:

http://puu.sh/bI1p1/28725b2457.jpg

http://puu.sh/bI3sx/aec2cc2888.jpg

Yay, will those verniers be bipropellant RCS?

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Hehe, guess I don't need to make my own Ariane-5 then :)

Well i hope i didn't stop you making one of your own, its just my personal preference to make a realistic looking rocket out of currently available parts, and my main challenge was actually the EPS. i would love to see what would be your rendition of the ariane 5 if you ever make it. i already cant wait to try out your proton already!

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It looks really cute, chance of a link? ( Or did it vanish with Spaceport?)

I did a search for both name of the part, and who I believe the creator was Lando. All came up as a dead ends in the spaceport. However, I will do some looking around to see how forum rules and Lic applies for something that falls into a grey area like this with no Lic, no link, no forum posts. In an ideal world, the creator will see this and post it on forums themselves.

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hrm beale .... as a kerballike version of the thirdstage engine it looks really really cool :D reminds me of teh engines of the Kerbal Orbiter System - reusing stock textures and inspired shape really helps a lot to get the stock-a-like feeling. but i would like to see the verniers more at the "egde" of the engine mountplate. is it possible to give the verniers the gimbal without touching the main nozzle?

Could you any chance mock up what you are saying with an image? Sorry I don't quite understand it.

That's a bit sad as I try to lower the number of mods used. But anyway, you are doing such a cool job with this pack!
Well i hope i didn't stop you making one of your own, its just my personal preference to make a realistic looking rocket out of currently available parts, and my main challenge was actually the EPS. i would love to see what would be your rendition of the ariane 5 if you ever make it. i already cant wait to try out your proton already!

Ah, the Ariane wasn't really in the plans for the time being. Who knows, if the other launch vehicles work out well, I could expand to support ATV and CYGNUS launchers...! :)

Yay, will those verniers be bipropellant RCS?

Yeah, LF/OX!

I just learned that the ATV was a human-rated spacecraft. Interesting.

I might be wrong, but was this not just Human rated for the sake of it being docked to the ISS (Because the people travel inside it)?

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okay here are the screens of the Proton thirdstage and how it should look and work.

first of all: the 4 verniers are part of the mainengine, they only provide attittude controll without the need to build a mainnozzle that can be steered, typical russian design like the engines of Soyuz launcher (core and secodn stage). so the 4 verniers are NOT a RCS-style system, they are engines for the third stage and fire all the time during the burn of the main nozzle (in realtiy they fire a bit longer and start earlier for physical and engeenieringreasons)

current layout on my stock proton, notice the mainenigne cover:

WcujQH1.jpg

mockups of the Tantaresstyl engine:

5ZDaNOU.jpg

vector of the thrust: parallel thrust of all 5 nozzles in one direction

vk67C5m.jpg

vector of the steering

LpzjgB3.jpg

here a video. at 8:10+ you can see the third stage firing: main nozzle + all 4 verniers

i hope this can help you Beale :)

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okay here are the screens of the Proton thirdstage and how it should look and work.

first of all: the 4 verniers are part of the mainengine, they only provide attittude controll without the need to build a mainnozzle that can be steered, typical russian design like the engines of Soyuz launcher (core and secodn stage). so the 4 verniers are NOT a RCS-style system, they are engines for the third stage and fire all the time during the burn of the main nozzle (in realtiy they fire a bit longer and start earlier for physical and engeenieringreasons)

current layout on my stock proton, notice the mainenigne cover:

http://i.imgur.com/WcujQH1.jpg

mockups of the Tantaresstyl engine:

http://i.imgur.com/5ZDaNOU.jpg

vector of the thrust: parallel thrust of all 5 nozzles in one direction

http://i.imgur.com/vk67C5m.jpg

vector of the steering

http://i.imgur.com/LpzjgB3.jpg

here a video. at 8:10+ you can see the third stage firing: main nozzle + all 4 verniers

i hope this can help you Beale :)

You have convinced me.

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Revised design, ignore those shadows, but this should provide something closer to reality.

Nice informative post!

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My PC's monitor burned and I have no possibility to do modding and videos, so I switched to build a munar infrastructure on laptop according to the "Energia"-presented Lunar Orbiter Station project I've previously posted. I tried to copy with the parts the R-56 (monoblock variant) launcher, proposed by Yangel for Moon Race:

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Hey Beale, I have been having a lot of fun with your parts recently, and I was wondering: How do I get the Salyut station with the TKS and the Tantares on both ends of it? Would you happen to have a craft file of that particular arrangement? That would be awesome, Thanks!

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Some aircraft were never made. But if they were, it would be awesome.

As I remember, the plane on the picture is Yak-15, which not only flew, but was also on service in Soviet Airforces in the late 40-s. ;)

Edit: and now it's MiG-9, as I remember, it was used the same time as Yak-15/17, but was less reliable. Don't try to run away from Russian aerospace engineer! :D

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As I remember, the plane on the picture is Yak-15, which not only flew, but was also on service in Soviet Airforces in the late 40-s. ;)

Nein. Ist das LaGG-3. You would only know about it if you played IL-2 Sturmovik 1946. The Yak-15 had a bubble canopy. Not a razorback.

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Nein. Ist das LaGG-3. You would only know about it if you played IL-2 Sturmovik 1946. The Yak-15 had a bubble canopy. Not a razorback.

Well, it was a Yak-15, the one with the turbojet. LaGG-3 never had a turbojet engine and was deprecated at the beginning of WW2 in USSR.

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