Missing threads from before the Support sections were revamped

[Kaa253]

Something has happened to the The Linux compatibility thread! .??

I don't have "permission" to access it via the above link and it does not appear as a sticky thread anywhere I can find under Development and Support.

[fetcher]

I ran into the same problem, and just registered for a forum account (thinking the "permission" error meant only guest access was blocked), but this unfortunately didn't help...

[vexx32]

Looks like it got shifted into the archive when the Development & Support section got restructured... Hmm. Interesting. It might have been decided that it was unnecessary, considering Linux has had oficial support for a long time now. Not sure, though.

[micha]

I noticed this happened to a couple of threads which were linked to from the Internet (eg Google search). I assumed it was a temporary issue with the forum; haven't tried accessing the threads again in the meantime, and can't remember which they were now either.

However, if it's due to threads getting archived, and the archive is not accessible to the general public, then IMHO that is a huge issue. There is a lot of value in accessing older posts for their information, quite apart from breaking links all over the place.

[vexx32]

That is true, but it's simply impossible for us to go through and move every thread that was in the old support forum(s). There are simply too many. As far as I know, several months' worth of threads were moved over into here from the now-archived forums. Too many more is simply logistically impossible, as we have no way to do it automatically. Even if we did, such a volume of thread move requests to the server would likely make it keel over quite quickly.

[micha]

While I've never adminned a forum myself, I know several people who have run long-term forums (10+ years) with a significant amount of content, and they've always managed to maintain the complete history through any reorganisations/upgrades/etc, even complete changes of forum software. I'm surprised a forum would even consider doing a reorg if it means losing older posts, and even more surprised that you don't have a way to automate it! Moving content manually is mad! :-)

Any chance of making the archived posts available as a read-only resource?

[vexx32]

Not sure, but I can ask the overlords about it.

EDIT: On second thoughts, I'd better move this to the Forum Forum, too.

[sjwt]

Try once more, I believe I've temporarily restored it, I don't know if the powers that be will hang me out to dry for that.. but ;>

[KasperVld]

Moving individual threads back is always an option, however sifting through thousands of threads that need to be sorted between two forums based on specific information within a support requests, while the vast majority of these threads will not provide people with any meaningful information is more trouble than it's worth. That is why it was decided to mass-archive those threads. Moderators can still access them though. So if you want to see a specific thread you can request to have it restored.

As for the Linux thread, I've closed the original one since we created a new one when the new Support forums were created, and a link is present in the 'known issues' thread. Link!

[Kaa253]

Thank you very much for re-establishing the thread. I think it should retain its sticky and [official] status which are currently missing.

Looks like it got shifted into the archive when the Development & Support section got restructured... Hmm. Interesting. It might have been decided that it was unnecessary, considering Linux has had oficial support for a long time now. Not sure, though.

I appreciate your remark regarding the long time official support and I cannot emphasize too highly how much that means to me. It is likely that I would never have even tried the KSP trial version if it had not been available for Linux. As it has transpired I have been a dedicated fan of KSP since version 0.18.

It is true that as that thread has been going for a long time it is long to read and search, contains many pages and in some cases out-of-date information. However, I realised today that the Linux compatibility thread was inaccessible because I saw a post in a mod thread asking if there might be a Linux compatibility issue with that mod and of course, that is possible. It does make me feel strongly that there should be a sticky and official thread in the Forum (probably under Support) for Linux users to discuss their "compatibility" issues even if that is simply a place for long time Linux version users to post reassurances to new users that the problem they may be having is not due to some Linux version compatibility issue. For example it seems clear that the Linux 64 bit version is currently more stable than the new Windows 64 bit version.

There is deservedly an international section on the Forum for discussion about KSP in languages other than English. I think there is equally a need for a place in the Forums for KSP discussion between players who speak languages different from Microsoft.

Personally I would be happy and comfortable with the thread being restarted afresh provided the useful notes in the first post and the included links in that first post are retained (after vetting for continued relevance - some of these may indeed be out-of-date too). This assumes that sal_vager is willing and able to continue providing his wonderful effort and support with moderating the thread.

Edited September 9, 2014 by Kaa253
Ninja'd by KasperVld! It looks like everything I wanted has been done except I still think it should be sticky and [official]

[vexx32]

Just let us know if there are other pertinent threads that are inaccessible, okay? We'll get em back quick as blinking.

[Lucid Hills]

Moving individual threads back is always an option, however sifting through thousands of threads that need to be sorted between two forums based on specific information within a support requests, while the vast majority of these threads will not provide people with any meaningful information is more trouble than it's worth.

Why not take on a few extra (temp) mods to sort it for you? I'm sure there are those willing to do it.

Old posts are useful. I link back to them rather than rewriting stuff all the time.