Worth trying to get KSP to work in Windows?

[xtoro]

KSP Version: 0.24.2 Windows 32 bit & 64-bit

Mods Installed: (Also crashes with no mods on a clean install) They are all up to date.

-Active Texture Management

-B9

-Quantum Struts

-City Lights and Clouds

-Community Resource PAck

-CrewXfer

-Distant Object Enhancement

-Environmental Visual Enhancements

-Firespitter

-JSI

-Procedural Fairings

-HyperEdit

-Kethane

-Karbonite

-Klockheed Martian

-Lackluster Labs

-Mechjeb2

-ModStatistics

-Notes

-NovaPunch 2

-Open Resource System

-Protractor

-R&S Capsuledyne

-ScanSat

-SmokeScreen

-SpacePlane Plus

-SurfaceLights

-Texture Replacer

-Kerbal Alarm Clock

-Vessel View

-Wayland Corp (various packs)

Problem:

I'm posting to see if anyone is running with no problems...

So I got a new gaming rig. My old one was running Linux and was playing KSP on it since last summer/fall-ish. Last version I used was the current 0.24.2. I got a new rig now running Windows 8 Pro, so I installed the win version of KSP 0.24.2. The 32-bit won't even load because of how many mods I use, I'm aware of the memory limit. But the 64-bit works for me and loads fine, and runs all my previous ships with no problems. But it "crashes" often. By crashes, I mean it just closes. No error message, nothing in the logs, it just goes from gaming to my desktop.

I've tried all kinds of different tweaks to get it to work, including different drivers and game card settings. I've also tried removing enough mods to run it in 32-bit, but it also crashes often. Tried disabling a bunch of Windows Services, tried running it on my SSD and my mechanical drive, tried so so many things.... And this is on a fairly new Windows install... Running even with NO mods at all, STILL crashes...

My old rig was

Core2 Quad OC'ed @ 3.6Ghz

8GB Ram OC'ed

Dual Radeon HD5870 cards

New rig is

Core i7 @ 4Ghz

16GB Ram OC'ed

Radeon HD7990 card

It's not an AMD problem and I don't want this thread to be an AMD/NVidia thing. It ran fine in the old rig. So, I installed a 10GB Linux partition onto my new rig, put KSP on it, copied all my saves and ships, and it works flawlessly running 64-bit. I can play all day long and run tons of missions all over the solar system and it never crashes. So it's not an issue with the new hardware.

The reason I want to get it to work in Windows is because I already started installing a bunch of Windows games and programs and don't want to switch between OSes. Does anyone run this game in Windows with no crashes? Or very few crashes? Is there some fix I don't know about? Why does it run perfectly in Linux and not Windows? I'm just curious about fixes because there were some glitches in old Linux versions where you had to run a few commands to get it to work properly on some distributions.

Reproduction Steps:

Just play the game, and it will randomly crash within an hour. No specific event causes it and can be anytime.

Thanks,

XT

Edited September 9, 2014 by xtoro

[KasperVld]

Moved to the Modded Support forum, General KSP Discussion is not where this belongs. Please read the sticky thread in this forum and provide the information requested. There's no telling if anyone will be able to help you if you don't give it a serious try.

[xtoro]

I've listed all mods. However, as stated, even with no mods, I'm still getting crashes randomly. There is nothing in the log except for what I was doing last, and it's never the same so there's no common denominator here. And yes I've been giving it a serious try. I've been trying to get it working properly for 5 days now and I even installed a Linux OS on my new system to rule out a hardware problem...

[KasperVld]

It could still be a driver issue or something of the sorts. Please provide the output log file, a dxdiag and tell us which software is running concurrent with KSP, such as your anti-virus. It may provide clues.

[xtoro]

That's part of the problem. There is no output log file, it just crashes to desktop. I know where the log files SHOULD be, but there are none. I also uninstalled McAfee, still crashes. Installed Avast, still crashes. Tried different versions of the video drivers. No other software running, it's a fresh system, and I'm not running it off of steam. I guess what I'm really looking for is to hear from someone who got it running with no problems, and what they did, if anything.

[Master Tao]

xtoro,

KasperVld referred you to this post about what information to provide, including another location for the output log. You should also read the Known Issues & Self Help post.

[xtoro]

xtoro,

KasperVld referred you to this post about what information to provide, including another location for the output log. You should also read the Known Issues & Self Help post.

Like I said in my last post, I know where they're SUPPOSED to be, I already read the sticky and I googled it, but they aren't there. I also know that there's supposed to be folders that are year-month-day-xxxxxx and the logs should be in those folders, but they are not there. I get no message box saying the game crashed, I get nothing. The game just stops and instantly goes to desktop.

Re-downloaded the game, fresh install, still crash, same deal.

Ran it on my wife's laptop for a bit, eventually crashed, but on hers I got an output log file for the 32-bit crash. Yes this was with mods. It also crashed when I tried it the first time without mods but the log file is 58MB and I have slow upload speeds.

On the win64-bit version, there's no crash logs after it crashes, it just goes to desktop.

Here it is (32-bit log with mods) : https://www.dropbox.com/s/gnr9qq7fhpc2ezy/output_log.txt?dl=0

It was exactly where it was supposed to be, but again, on my machine, no log files in that location...

Edited September 9, 2014 by xtoro

[Master Tao]

Sorry, usually when people say there's no output log, they mean there's no crash log folder. There should always be an output_log.txt in KSP_win64\KSP_x64_Data\ when you're running the 64-bit version. If there's not, something is going seriously wrong with your computer before KSP even has a chance to start loading. Does a stock install load? Where is KSP installed on your computer?

In the log you provided from your wife's computer, you're running out of memory. That said, there are other issues, like having two versions of Module Manager that aren't compatible with KSP 0.24. I can't tell if most of your other mods are up-to-date because you haven't provided the versions.

[vexx32]

If there are no logs being created, it indicates that KSP does not have adequate permissions to read/write files from its own directory. It's not impossible for this to cause a lot of crashes. I would recommend you check your permissions, and ensure that KSP is not located on the Desktop, or in Program Files, or any other Windows-managed folders (unless you have a Steam install, in which case you should check in case Steam has marked the KSP directory Read-Only for whatever reason).

If you have KSP on the Desktop, or in Program Files, you'll need to copy it out to another location, then delete the original.

[xtoro]

Well, I'm about ready to give it up.... I did have it on my Desktop so I created a new folder on C:\ called KSP, put in a fresh install, and in the permissions for the folder and all it's contents, I gave System, Myself, Administrators and Everyone full control. Same issues. It does play for longer when it's stock than with mods, but in stock-only, when I start flying one of my larger stock-parts-only ships, it crashes within 30-60 minutes of playing.

I started googling a lot more about crashing in windows and it seems to happen to a lot of people with no real fixes in sight. I guess I just don't understand why the windows versions are so buggy when I can play the linux version all day long... I'll even just leave it running, close my laptop and then the next day, open it up and continue playing, for days. I think the last time I had a crash was when I was playing version 0.20 last year and it was because of a mod (don't remember which one). So for now, I guess I'll keep switching into Linux to play KSP until I see something of a fix come up, or until the next version comes out.