Paul Kingtiger Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) As an experiment I wanted to see how much you could scale up the Kerbol system and keep everything else stock.I ended up with 2x larger than stock (planet and orbit radius) which makes the game slightly harder but still looks and feel stock. You can easily play this scale with a stock install in career mode, it take ~5300ÃŽâ€v to get to a circular 75km orbit. That's up from stock's 4500ÃŽâ€v. Javascript is disabled. View full albumWhat has changedAll bodies twice the diameterAll orbits twice the semi-major axisSolar power curve adjusted to provide stock values at new distancesAnomalies and easter eggs are buried under ground (this is hard coded and I can't do anything about it)Texture and normal for Kerbin (medium res version)What is the same as stockPotato moons still potatoesAtmosphere height and density curveBody rotation ratesThe end result is a mod that works really well with otherwise stock KSP, even in career mode, but also plays nicely with modded installed. It's harder than stock KSP, but not massively so.Download from:Kerbal Stuffhttps://github.com/Paul-kingtiger/K2/releasesSource code:https://github.com/Paul-kingtiger/K2Installation instructions included in the download (better documentation to come)LicenceK2 IS A FORK OF 6.4X KERBOL Created by Regex and Raptor831 and released as public domain. As such all the files and content in this mod, except those 3rd party mods and files specifically listed below are released under the public domain.SCREEN SHOTS, IMAGES AND VIDEOSYou may create and publish screen shots, images and videos featuring Universal Storage running as part of KSP, including for commercial or financial gain. This does not include the texture image files, except when viewed ‘in-game’ as part of Kerbal Space Program.Note: this license does not override or supersede any existing license regarding Kerbal Space Program or Squad3RD PARTY MODS AND PLUG-INS PACKAGED WITH 64K AND COVERED BY THEIR OWN LICENCEModule Manager: CC share-alike licenseMini-AVC: GNU General Public License v3 Real Solar System: CC-BY-NC-SA DDS Loader MIT Edited March 22, 2015 by Paul Kingtiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Bean Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Sounds fun, looking forward to trying it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakoflame Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 ooo! sounds fun! will it also change science? Also, would it be with any other planet pack IE: OPM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLWostal Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Been wondering. Just how tall are Kerbals anyway? About 3 centimeters tall?And I really like this mod idea. Would be fun to see larger systems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kingtiger Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 First version out.This is built from 64K 1.0.90.5 so it's already quite mature.The mod and installation are much simpler than 64K because the size difference is relatively small.Feedback welcomed!https://github.com/Paul-kingtiger/K2/releases- - - Updated - - -ooo! sounds fun! will it also change science? Also, would it be with any other planet pack IE: OPM?All atmospheres are the same height so science and contracts should work as in stock. Let me know if you find otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwind Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) This is quite interesting for other reasons too... ferram4 once estimated that when running FAR, you'd get a dV cost to orbit equal to stock if Kerbin were about twice its stock size.So this is the perfect opportunity to check if that's true EDIT - you need some sort of license in your opening post. Edited February 18, 2015 by Streetwind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon91 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I'll give it a try, looks interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirligig Girl Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 And with that, Jumbo32 is officially no longer supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 And with that, Jumbo32 is officially no longer supported. Too bad, that's what I'm currently playing Least I can bang away on it until 1.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirligig Girl Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 The PQS and ScaledSpace terrain doesn't match on Minmus and Mun, probably others.- - - Updated - - -Too bad, that's what I'm currently playing Least I can bang away on it until 1.0. Jumbo32 became a mess the moment I tried resetting Gilly, Bop, etc. I'd be happy if someone were to pick up the project themselves, though I'd prefer the not to use the "Jumbo" name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kingtiger Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 The PQS and ScaledSpace terrain doesn't match on Minmus and Mun, probably others.The only way around that is to have custom textures for everything, which I am working on for 64k and so will be able to port over to here when complete. It's not a high priority though and the difference is minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellion Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 PQS and scaledspace should match when the .obj files get generated by RSS on startup afaik. Just be careful to include the right .obj files in the download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kingtiger Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) PQS and scaledspace should match when the .obj files get generated by RSS on startup afaik. Just be careful to include the right .obj files in the download.I generated a full set of .obj files before uploading the mod, so they should be accurate.[Correction] The object files never made it to the upload which would explain why you're seeing this and I'm not. I'll update github.Version 0.90.0.2 releasedFixes the above issue. This should be the last pre-release version. https://github.com/Paul-kingtiger/K2/releases/tag/0.0.90.2 Edited February 20, 2015 by Paul Kingtiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira_R Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 How will this work with E.V.E. will custom packs be needed like with RSS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kingtiger Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 How will this work with E.V.E. will custom packs be needed like with RSS?No, it should work with standard EVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira_R Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) No, it should work with standard EVESweet, trying it out when I get home Edit: If this is installed on a game with a career save already in progress and ships in orbit (comm sats in keostationary and some mapping sats) will there orbits be adjusted properly or will things get interesting? Edited February 20, 2015 by Akira_R avoid double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Things will get interesting in some cases. If they are in an orbit that would be inside the planet if it is double scaled, then say goodbye to that craft. I made a copy of my career save and installed K2, and my commsat network ended up very close to eachother (they were 90 deg apart before), but were in a stable orbit.I need to work out what Kerbstationary orbit is now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirligig Girl Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Would very much appreciate an alternate texture for Kerbin where the oceans don't light up like the daytime sky! Oceans look dark from orbit, and a darker texture on the oceans would make the whole thing way prettier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kingtiger Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 Would very much appreciate an alternate texture for Kerbin where the oceans don't light up like the daytime sky! Oceans look dark from orbit, and a darker texture on the oceans would make the whole thing way prettier.I've added a link to the source code to the first post, the current version up there has darkened ocean, let me know what you think.https://github.com/Paul-kingtiger/K2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Paul Kingtiger, I did some very slow adjustments to the orbit of a satelite, and a Kerbin Stationary Orbit is 4.306 MegaMeters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira_R Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 So I'm about to install this, what is the atmo height? Since planet size is doubled would the height of the atmo be doubled as well, like 140km? Also I notice it says planet rotation speed unchanged, does this mean that a kerbin day is still 6 hours, so a keo orbit would be one with a period of 6 hours? I have never actually played with any rescalling mods before so this is all very new to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kingtiger Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 So I'm about to install this, what is the atmo height? Since planet size is doubled would the height of the atmo be doubled as well, like 140km? Also I notice it says planet rotation speed unchanged, does this mean that a kerbin day is still 6 hours, so a keo orbit would be one with a period of 6 hours? I have never actually played with any rescalling mods before so this is all very new to me.Atmo height is the same as stock. Doubling the size of the planets is quite a small change as far as the atmosphere is concerned, as they don't scale the same. Really it should be a little bigger, but I wanted to keep everything as stock like as possible and changing the atmosphere height would cause issues with contracts.Rotations are the same, again this means the planet rotates a little fast for it's size but it keeps everything simple and stock like. A stationary orbit will be 6 hours as before.I'm about to push out an update that darkens the ocean of Kerbin from space, so it's closer to stock. I'll update this post when I have completed the update.- - - Updated - - -Version 1.0.90.0 releasedThis is the full release of the mod. The only change from the previous version is a darker ocean texture for Kerbin, so it looks closer to stock.From here on in the mod is feature complete and I'll only be updating the mod to keep it compatible with the latest KSP version or to fix bugs.Download from Githubhttps://github.com/Paul-kingtiger/K2/releases/tag/1.0.90.0I'll be adding the mod to Kerbal Stuff shortly, maybe Curse as well.Let me know if you encounter any problems, and also any FAR users, I'd be interested to know how the mod effects Delta V requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sashan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Nice indeed. May try it out. How does it go with landed ships in current saves? I have a mining base on Vall. As for orbiting - I know, if their orbits are below new surfaces they are lost.Is it Kethane-compatible? If yes, I'll test it with NEAR. Maybe even FAR, idk.As for anomalies and such - it may be possible to use KerbTown or whatever it is called now to recreate them and add some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kingtiger Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Nice indeed. May try it out. How does it go with landed ships in current saves? I have a mining base on Vall. As for orbiting - I know, if their orbits are below new surfaces they are lost.Is it Kethane-compatible? If yes, I'll test it with NEAR. Maybe even FAR, idk.As for anomalies and such - it may be possible to use KerbTown or whatever it is called now to recreate them and add some more.I haven't tested Kethane, but I think Shimmy uses it with 64K, so if it works there, then it'll work here. I can test it easy enough.The anomalies, could be fixed by Squad by snapping them to the terrain level, but it's probably very low down on their todo list.For landed ships, I haven't tested it, but if you make a backup of your saves folder then you can give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kingtiger Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 I just confirmed with Shimmy that Karbonite works great with 64K, so it will also be fine with K2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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