Chronic crashing since purchase

[Deimos Rast]

I post this somewhat reluctantly, as I don't think anybody will take this seriously, or believe the magnitude of the problem. Searching the support forum yielded results for people having a collection of 1.1+ related crashes, but seeing as mine have been ongoing for 6 months, I feel this warrants it's own thread. Let's begin.

Game runs maybe 30min-1hr before crash, if I'm lucky. Sometimes it crashes immediately within 5 minutes. This has been going on since I bought the game in December, for 2000 or so hours. Do the math...we're talking a lot of crashes.

It runs smoother in 1.1.2 than in 1.0.5 but crashes significantly more frequently. I am continually forced to accept less and less of what I deem an acceptable level of performance, for no apparent reason that I can discern. Example: I play with 100 less mods now than I did in 1.0.5 because KSP simply cannot handle it. In 1.0.5, when I was running 160 mods, a lot of my crashes were because KSP used up more than the 16GB of memory I had available (I have always run 64 bit Linux). Even now, with 80 mods, I still occasionally get the "16GB memory not enough" crash. Note: almost all my mods are up-to-date, as I use KSP-AVC and spend a lot of time browsing the addons subforum and Spacedock. Of the ~85 mods, maybe two are still from 1.0.5, and they're parts mods; ~10 are 1.1 built, the rest are 1.1.2. There are a handful of updates available, but given the systematic and chronic nature of the condition, it's unlikely to make a difference. I should also note here, that my install has changed completely many times over between 1.0.5 and 1.1.2, and in the interim, in the course of debugging this issue, and it has made very little difference.

To continue: I have, what I believe to be, a very good computer, as I built it myself (see specs below) and it is less than a year old. I have played other games just fine at max graphics (e.g. Shadows of Mordor), no problem.
Graphics driver is the latest non-beta available, last I checked (nvidia-361.42). Main Hardware is as follows, (see HardInfo Report for more details here):

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16375MB RAM
OS Linux Mint 17.2 Rafaela
GTX 980
Samsung SSD 850 x2
MAXIMUS VII HERO MoBo

A short list of things that causes KSP to crash:

• Loading the game - game doesn't always load successfully and frequently crashes; generally on scene change to menu but not always.
• Loading a save - another scene change. Note: not related to a specific save.
• Entering buildings in the Space Center (particularly the VAB/Observatory). Probably due to a number of mods running in the VAB and having to load parts?
• Adding/Deleting parts in the Editor.
• Saving in Editor (rarely); Launching from Editor (more frequently) - another scene change.
• Actually launching the ships (gfx performance greatly improved in 1.1+, although quality of gfx greatly decreased, even at max)
• Crashing ships into the ground - this one is bad.
• Switching active vessels (somewhat rarer now).
• Switching from active vessel back to KSC (scene change).
• And lastly, and perhaps tellingly, letting KSP sit idle. Log here of that.

 

My GameData Folder, first the folder structure, then the .dll's, as reported in the log.
 

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//----------------Folders and files in GameData-----------------------//
000_FilterExtensions
000_FilterExtensions Configs
000_Rast
000_Toolbar
ABCORS
ASET
AdvancedCockpit
AirplanePlus
AoATech
AtomicAge
AviationLights
B9AnimationModules
B9PartSwitch
Biomatic
CTTP
CameraFocusChanger
Canadarm
CommunityResourcePack
CommunityTechTree
ConnectedLivingSpace
ContractConfigurator
ContractFilter
ContractPacks
Cormorant Aeronology
CryoEngines
CryoTanks
CustomBarnKit
DIRECT_LV
DMagicOrbitalScience
DMagicScienceAnimate
DMagicUtilities
DangerAlerts
DatedQuickSaves
DavonSupplyMod
DebugStuff
DeployableEngines
Diazo
DistantObject
Dynamic Controls
EVAManager
EVAStruts
EVATransfer
EasyBoard
EditorExtensionsRedux
EngineLight
EveBiomesPlus
ExceptionDetector
FShangarExtender
Felbourn
FieldExperience
Firespitter
GPOSpeedFuelPump
HGR
HGR_Redux
HaystackContinued
HeatControl
HeatManagement
InterstellarFuelSwitch
JSI
JoolBiomes
KAS
KIS
KRASH
KRnD
KSP-AVC
KSPCasher
KSPX
KWRocketry
KeepFit
KerbalAtomics
KerbalConstructionTime
KerbalEngineer
KerbalJointReinforcement
Kerbaltek
KerboKatz
KerbolOrigins
Klockheed_Martian_SSE
Kopernicus
LETech
Landertron
MagicSmokeIndustries
MechJeb2
MinAmbience
MiningExpansion
Mk2Expansion
Mk3Expansion
ModRocketSys
ModularFlightIntegrator
ModularFuelTanks
NAU
NavBallAdjustor
NavHud
NearFutureConstruction
NearFutureElectrical
NearFutureProps
NearFuturePropulsion
NearFutureSolar
NearFutureSpacecraft
Nereid
NohArksPnP
OPM
PartCommander
PartWizard
PlanetShine
PortraitStats
PreciseNode
REPOSoftTech
RLA_Stockalike
RSCapsuledyne
RcsSounds
RealChute
RealPlume
RemoteTech
RoutineMissionManager
SCANsat
SDHI
SXT
SafeChute
SensibleScreenshot
ShipManifest
SmartParts
SmokeScreen
Stock folder: Squad
StageRecovery
StationPartsExpansion
StationScience
StockBugFixPlus
Strategia
TankLock
Targetron
Thermal Monitor
ToadicusTools
Trajectories
TriggerTech
TweakScale
TweakableEverything
UniversalStorage
VOID
VanguardAstrodynamics
VariableThrustLimiter
VenStockRevamp
VesselMover
WasdEditorCamera
WaypointManager
WernherChecker
ModuleManager.2.6.25.dll

//----------------Mod DLLs found------------------//
Stock assembly: Assembly-CSharp v0.0.0.0
MagiCore v1.0.0.0
ModuleManager.2.6.25 v2.6.25.0
FilterExtensions v1.0.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
aaa_Toolbar v1.0.0.0 / v1.7.11.0
ABCORS v0.1.1.0
ASETPropsIdentifier v1.3.0.0
AviationLights v3.9.0.0
B9AnimationModules v1.0.2.0 / v1.0.2
B9PartSwitch v1.1.4.0
Biomatic v1.1.0.6
CameraFocusChanger v0.8.1.0
CLSInterfaces v1.0.0.0
ConnectedLivingSpace v1.2.1.2
ContractConfigurator v1.0.0.0 / v1.11.5
RemoteTech v1.7.0.0 / v1.7.0
CC_RemoteTech v1.0.0.0 / v1.11.5
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
ContractFilter v1.0.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
SimpleBoiloff v1.0.0.0
CustomBarnKit v1.1.8.0
DMagic v1.3.0.0 / vv1.3
DMModuleScienceAnimateGeneric v0.14.0.0
ProgressParser v1.0.4.0 / vv4.0
ContractParser v1.0.3.0 / vv3.0
CapCom v1.0.2.2 / vv2.2
ContractsWindow v1.0.6.3 / vv6.3
DangerAlerts v1.2.0.0
DatedQuickSaves v1.1.1.0
DavonRestrictedResourceSupplyModule v1.0.0.0
DebugStuff v1.3.0.0
DeployableEngines v1.0.0.0
AGExt v1.0.0.0
kOSVoidAction v1.0.0.0
DistantObject v1.7.1.12685
Dynamic Controls v1.0.0.0
EVAManager v0.0.0.0
EVAStruts v1.0.1.0 / vv1.0
EVATransfer v1.0.4.0 / vv4.0
EasyBoard v1.0.0.0
EditorExtensionsRedux v3.2.13.35596
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
EngineLight v1.0.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
ExceptionDetector v0.0.0.0
FShangarExtender v1.0.0.0
NodeHelper v1.2.1.5
FieldExperience v1.0.3.0
Firespitter v7.1.5964.19707
GPOSpeedPump v1.8.1.19547
HaystackContinued v0.5.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
InterstellarFuelSwitch v1.30.0.0 / v1.30.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.1
Scale_Redist v1.0.0.0
JSIAdvTransparentPods v0.1.5.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
RasterPropMonitor v0.26.0.19575
KAS v0.5.7.0 / v0.5.7 for KSP 1.1
MiniAVC v1.0.3.1
KSPDev_Utils v0.10.3.0 / v0.10.3 for KSP v1.1
KIS v1.2.9.0 / v1.2.9 for KSP 1.1
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
KRASH v0.0.0.0
KRnD v0.0.0.0
KSP-AVC v1.1.6.1
KSPCasher v0.0.2.0 / v0.0.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
CLSInterfaces v1.0.0.0
KeepFit v0.10.6.4
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
KerbalConstructionTime v1.3.3.7
KerbalEngineer.Unity v1.0.0.0
KerbalEngineer v1.1.1.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
KerbalJointReinforcement v3.1.7.0
HyperEdit v1.5.0.0
KerboKatz.UI v1.0.0.0
KerboKatzUtilities v1.3.0.0 / v1.3.5.0
AutomatedScienceSampler v1.1.1.0
DMagicOrbitalScience v1.1.0.0
DestroyAll v1.4.1.0
FPSLimiter v1.4.1.0
FPSViewer v1.4.2.0
ModifiedExplosionPotential v1.4.1.0
PhysicalTimeRatioViewer v1.4.2.0
RecoverAll v1.4.1.0
Kopernicus.Components v1.0.0.0
Kopernicus.OnDemand v1.0.0.0
Kopernicus v1.0.0.0
Landertron v0.13.0.0 / v0.13.0
ActiveStruts v1.1.0.0
IRSequencer v1.0.0.0 / v1.0.0
IRSurfaceSampler v1.0.1.5 / v1.5
InfernalRobotics v2.0.0.0
Scale_Redist v1.0.0.0
MechJeb2 v2.5.1.0 / vDev #589 Sarbian / v2.5.7.0
MinAmbience v1.0.5940.33786
ModularFlightIntegrator v1.0.0.0 / v1.1.4.0
modularFuelTanks v5.7.5.0 / v5.7.5
NavBallAdjustor v1.2.2.0
NavHud v0.0.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
NearFutureElectrical v1.0.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
NearFuturePropulsion v0.4.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
NearFutureSolar v0.4.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
FinalFrontier v1.0.0.0
PartCommander v1.0.3.0
PartWizard v1.2.4.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
PlanetShine v1.0.5938.30099
PortraitStats v1.0.8.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
PreciseNode v1.0.0.0 / v1.2.3.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
AmpYear v1.3.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
DeepFreeze v0.22.1.0
RcsSounds v5.0.0.0
RealChute v1.4.5964.18052 / v1.4.1.1
CommercialOfferings v1.0.0.0
MagiCore v1.0.0.0
SCANsat v1.6.0.1 / vv16.1
SCANmechjeb v1.6.0.1 / vv16.1
SafeChute v1.9.1.19559
Sensible_Screenshot v1.2.1.0
CLSInterfaces v1.0.0.0
ShipManifest v5.1.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.2
SmartParts v1.7.0.0
SmokeScreen v2.6.15.0
Stock assembly: KSPSteamCtrlr v0.0.1.33
Stock assembly: SaveUpgradePipeline.Scripts v1.0.0.2 / v1.0.0.21
Stock assembly: Steamworks.NET v8.0.0.0 / v8.0.0
StageRecovery v1.6.4.2
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
StationScience v1.6.0.0
StockBugFixPlusController v1.0.0.0
BodyLiftFix v1.0.0.0
GameSettingsPlus v1.0.0.0
ModuleControlSurfacePlus v1.0.0.0
ModuleGimbalPlus v1.0.0.0
ModuleParachutePlus v1.0.0.0
PilotRSASFix v1.0.0.0
Strategia v1.0.0.0 / v1.2.2
TankLock v1.0.5959.31711
Targetron v1.4.4.25851 / v1.4.4
Thermal Monitor v1.0.0.0
ToadicusTools v0.0.0.0
Trajectories v1.6.2.0
KerbalAlarmClock v3.6.3.0
TransferWindowPlanner v1.5.1.0
Scale v2.2.12.0
Scale_Redist v1.0.0.0
TweakableDockingNode v1.15.0.38425
TweakableEVA v1.15.0.38427
TweakableFuelPumps v1.15.0.38429
TweakableGimbals v1.15.0.38426
TweakableIntakes v1.15.0.38427
TweakableParachutes v1.15.0.38428
TweakableReactionWheels v1.15.0.38426
TweakableSAS v1.15.0.38428
TweakableSolarPanels v1.15.0.38425
AdvancedAnimator v1.0.5205.2310 / v1.1.0.0
VesselSimulator v0.0.0.0
VOID v0.19.1.20169
VOID_CareerTracker v0.0.0.0
VariableThrustLimiter v1.0.0.0
VesselMover v0.0.0.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
WasdEditorCamera v1.0.5953.36099
WaypointManager v1.0.0.0 / v2.5.1
WernherChecker v0.4.1.0
MiniAVC v1.0.3.0
[x] Science! v4.17.5967.29143

 

 

 

[Dizor]

It looks like you graphic driver doesn't like Unity Engine. Try to play some other video game based on Unity. Or try to play KSP using internal video card (if you have it).

[steve_v]

On 26/05/2016 at 1:48 PM, Deimos Rast said:

Log here of that.

Native crash in libmono.so... looks very like the (new for 1.1) crashes many are seeing. If you had ptrace debugging enabled I expect that stack trace would be just like the dozens I have collected. AFAICT there's something properly borked deep in Unity, probably a race / thread safety problem. Still waiting for news from those in the know / with access to the sources...
You say you were seeing crashes in 1.0.5 too? I take it these were the (known Unity bug) "attempted to use memory addresses from more than 16GB" crash, and therefore not the same as what you are getting now?

16 minutes ago, Dizor said:

It looks like you graphic driver doesn't like Unity Engine.

Say what? I see nothing in that log that points to graphics drivers... care to explain your reasoning?

[Deimos Rast]

13 hours ago, steve_v said:

Native crash in libmono.so... looks very like the (new for 1.1) crashes many are seeing. If you had ptrace debugging enabled I expect that stack trace would be just like the dozens I have collected. AFAICT there's something properly borked deep in Unity, probably a race / thread safety problem. Still waiting for news from those in the know / with access to the sources...
You say you were seeing crashes in 1.0.5 too? I take it these were the (known Unity bug) "attempted to use memory addresses from more than 16GB" crash, and therefore not the same as what you are getting now?

Say what? I see nothing in that log that points to graphics drivers... care to explain your reasoning?

The crashes in 1.0.5 were primarily the 16gb memory issue, which might be reasonable with the 160 mods I was running.

But I still occasionally get it now, with 80 mods. Sometimes on load, frequently just doing nothing (looking at parts in the tech tree, sitting in the VAB, etc). But usually the crash just says SIGSEGV and nothing.

I pretty much haven't been able to play for the past two weeks, since it's reached a crescendo of crashing.

13 hours ago, Dizor said:

It looks like you graphic driver doesn't like Unity Engine. Try to play some other video game based on Unity. Or try to play KSP using internal video card (if you have it).

Could you be more specific by chance? I had my suspicion of this back in 1.0.5, because while I have a EVEGA GTX 980 graphics card, KSP would sometimes give me 120 FPS, other times 12 or less (as reported by the ingame performance meter ALT+F12). I actually took to manually removing all SurfaceFX Modules from engines because it would freeze up my computer when I launched. This was without any graphical enhancements installed at all. Things run better now in 1.1.2, and I even ran with some FX mods for a while; however, the quality of the graphics has tanked, even on max, but that might be a KSP issue (i.e. nothing has shine or crinkle anymore, everything is just matte). I do have an integrated graphics card on my CPU, and I think my BIOS has it set to automatically enable/disable it (maybe even on the fly) - might explain the massive 100+ fluctuations I saw in FPS, if KSP stopped recognizing my GPU mid game, then suddenly started to again.

 

 

Either way, I appreciate both of these responses, more than you two can possibly know. Thanks!

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I've also decided to go to war with this problem, and have decided to rip out everything of my install and add it back in piece by piece, systematically checking every mod for problems. I'll post the first crash report when the forum stops trying to merge the threads.