Limited Action Groups

[sevenperforce]

I need to set an action group to control the "free pivot" tweakable/toggle on the AGU, but it's not showing up. Any idea why?

[Streetwind]

I don't know. Has it worked in the past, or is this the first time you've tried it?

Actions need to be specifically enabled to be usable in action groups. Maybe this one just isn't, and/or maybe has never been.

[Snark]

20 hours ago, sevenperforce said:

it's not showing up

Can you define exactly what you mean by "it" not showing up?

• Do you mean that the AGU isn't showing the free/lock pivot item when you're in the action groups UI in the editor?
• Or do you mean that, for example, the action groups UI isn't available, or isn't showing action groups in it?

Just wanted to confirm.  If it's the latter, that could just be a matter of your gameplay settings.  By default, in career games, you only get basic action groups after upgrading the vehicle editor to level 2, and only get full action groups after you've upgraded to level 3.  If this is what you're running into, either you need to upgrade the VAB (or SPH) as appropriate, or else you can go into your game difficulty settings and choose "action groups always available" so that they're there without needing to upgrade.

If that's not the problem... could you post a screenshot showing the issue?

[sevenperforce]

23 minutes ago, Snark said:

Can you define exactly what you mean by "it" not showing up?

• Do you mean that the AGU isn't showing the free/lock pivot item when you're in the action groups UI in the editor?
• Or do you mean that, for example, the action groups UI isn't available, or isn't showing action groups in it?

Just wanted to confirm.  If it's the latter, that could just be a matter of your gameplay settings.  By default, in career games, you only get basic action groups after upgrading the vehicle editor to level 2, and only get full action groups after you've upgraded to level 3.  If this is what you're running into, either you need to upgrade the VAB (or SPH) as appropriate, or else you can go into your game difficulty settings and choose "action groups always available" so that they're there without needing to upgrade.

If that's not the problem... could you post a screenshot showing the issue?

I'm playing Sandbox. The Action Groups UI is available and works just fine, but when I click the AGU, the only options are "Release Grapple", "Decouple Node", and "Toggle Arming", none of which I want. I need to be able to Free and Lock pivoting with an action group.

[Snark]

12 minutes ago, sevenperforce said:

I'm playing Sandbox. The Action Groups UI is available and works just fine, but when I click the AGU, the only options are "Release Grapple", "Decouple Node", and "Toggle Arming", none of which I want. I need to be able to Free and Lock pivoting with an action group.

Ah, in that case,  it's just a missing feature, i.e. it's just not part of the game.

Feel free to post a request over in the Suggestions forum, though! 

[sevenperforce]

1 minute ago, Snark said:

Ah, in that case,  it's just a missing feature, i.e. it's just not part of the game.

Feel free to post a request over in the Suggestions forum, though! 

Ah. Shoot. That sucks.

On a related note, does anyone know of ANY objects in the current game that have ANY collision frame with other objects in the same vessel?

I want to attach an engine to the AGU, free the pivot, and then use something like the airbrakes to push it between two positions so I can make a single-engine stock VTOL.

[FireKerb]

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On a related note, does anyone know of ANY objects in the current game that have ANY collision frame with other objects in the same vessel?

AFIK, no. All parts on the same vessel cannot clip with each other.