Nightside Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 So the Omega is basically a Hydrolox upper stage sitting on 8 Solid Rocket Motors? Do they have any intention of getting man-rating? Could it lift the Orion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumSky5 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Yes, in the heaviest configuration. I have no idea if they will, but it has been suggested that it could launch Orion to LEO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wumpus Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Nightside said: So the Omega is basically a Hydrolox upper stage sitting on 8 Solid Rocket Motors? Do they have any intention of getting man-rating? Could it lift the Orion? Solid boosters have a bad reputation, and man-ratings are expensive. Also Northrup is a government contractor first and foremost: they won't do *any* R&D that isn't paid for by Uncle Sam. If they want to get it man-rated, they need an entirely different handout from NASA to do it (Air Force hasn't launched astronauts since the X-15). This would likely require ripping up the designs the Air Force paid for and replacing with new "man rated' work. I can't see it happening thanks to either reason (SRBs or contracting issues) and both together make it worse. Edited October 12, 2018 by wumpus what was I typing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I'm with wumpus... Omega isn't for crew. It's to provide DoD launch capability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 delayed again https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/10/23/pegasus-rocket-launch-postponed/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumSky5 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Can whoever put the curse on ICON knock it off please, it's getting a bit old now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Think maybe they'll have some coverage tonight (late): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumSky5 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 And scrubbed, again. This is now beyond a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, MinimumSky5 said: And scrubbed, again. This is now beyond a joke. Would you rather they launch it and have it fail to make orbit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumSky5 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 No, but clearly Grumman are having issues with managing Pegasus. I'm not saying "Launch right now because I'm bored and want to see explosions!" I'm saying "You've been trying to launch this satellite for 18 months now, on a flight proven and reliable launch system. What is going wrong to make this happen?" If this was happening with a Delta 4 launch, people would rightly start asking questions about where the failures were originating from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) NG-10 has been pushed back a day due to weather, and there's a chance that it will be pushed back another day. Personally, living close enough to Wallops to see these launches from home, I kinda hope it gets pushed back again- better cloud coverage for me. I haven't actually been able to see any of them yet (except for one Minotaur launch in 2013 that I saw, but I went to Wallops for that one) due to weather or scheduling problems. But, if it isn't delayed again, the Progress MS-10 launch is on the same day. That makes two ISS launches in one day, and if I'm not mistaken about the flight plans here, they'd be docking on the same day as well! Has that ever happened before? Edited November 14, 2018 by ThatGuyWithALongUsername Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 NG-10 now NET 4:01 am EST on Saturday. I'll see what I can do- the trees in my neighbor's yard may pose a small problem, but the skies look clear enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Looks like ICON is getting delayed even further https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/2018/11/16/icon-to-return-to-vandenberg-afb-for-further-analysis/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Well... the weather's fine... but, um, I can't find the camera. Just perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Time for plan B. Duct tape is always the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKraken Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) Cygnus launch in 2hrs @wallops. RD-181s!!! Don't get to see these engines launch very often. Live : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0 https://twitter.com/northropgrumman https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=45110.100 https://www.reddit.com/r/NorthropGrumman/comments/9va55s/antares_230_cygnus_ng10_launch_updates_and/ Edited November 17, 2018 by RedKraken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKraken Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Cygnus launch in 2min...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Couldn't see anything I guess the trajectory is sufficiently different from OA-5, which, according to Google Earth, would be visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 11/6/2018 at 2:30 AM, tater said: That plane is it? 3 engine ones are rare nowdays. Large bypass, stronger engines with higher bypass and changed regulations has made 2 engines standard Outside the odd stuff, flew and stubby 4 engine plane with small engines once and 4 engines are common for turboprop, here bypass is irrelevant and you can make an larger plane by adding more engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumSky5 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 That just speaks to the vintage of Pegasus, and the fact that the trijets were being phased out when it came online, so they just used a cheap, secondhand plane fir the retrofits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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