alline1999 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 May I suggest making the shield in several parts? Looks fun, I'll see if I can help in some way...well it would be less stable then if you made it out of servral parts altough i was taking to use damned robotics and make it drploy using the mod but i wont be as sable as it was made in one piece becuas the drag probebly would rip it appart if it was build up out of servral part so the best way is actualy making 1 gaint shield or at least thats what i think is best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwnedbyscope Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 well it would be less stable then if you made it out of servral parts altough i was taking to use damned robotics and make it drploy using the mod but i wont be as sable as it was made in one piece becuas the drag probebly would rip it appart if it was build up out of servral part so the best way is actualy making 1 gaint shield or at least thats what i think is bestjust tried this used a 4 delta wings attached to hinges riped off as soon as i got into the atmosphere, and on the subject of the docking and assembly and all, its not that the fact that it is docked makes it weak, its the pieces used to dock that are weak, i tried launching a completed version of my DUNA mission vehicle and without supports between the docking collars the same thing happened as when the were put together separately, im not sure it it would be possible but if there was a way to auto-strut between two docking collars when ever they come together then in-orbit assembly would be possible, but like i said i dont know it there is any possible way to edit a ship after it has been launched, let alone edit two ships together after they have been launched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbowyer28 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Might I add "Stock and Docking mod" From Timmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Iv experimented using both Erkle and ORDA docking mods and have found Erkle to be unreliable during warping, so I would caution against its use. Orda warps fine, but its G threshold is barley 1 G. So building the ship seems quite doable with ORDA but only if you want your burns to be long gentle affairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Zoom Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 One more time:To the best of my understanding, the final ship will not actually be composed of several craft docked together, for all of the reasons already mentioned. Rather, it will be constructed as a single craft and placed directly in orbit, before beginning its mission. This should avoid the issues with current docking mods and warping, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Barrett Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 have you guys figured out a way to stabilize docked modules? Unless what your planning on making one giant ship to be launched from KSC, I'm guessing your going to launch multiple pieces to be docked assembled in orbit. The reason i ask is i recently attempted to recreate the seven part Mars mission, and after about 3 hours real time of time accel waiting for the phase angle to get into position, my 3 part trans-planetary vehicle (thruster section, hab, and CM) turned into a wet noodle when in lit the engines for the trans-burn. It seems like the docking connection isnt strong enough to hold up to any forces other than the magic torque and light rcs'sWell ****.Is docking for 0.18? Should I wait? I don't know any other updates possibly more important than docking, but I may be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwnedbyscope Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 i think speculation is that the next update will be fixes and expanding on current features, my guess is that docking will come in .2, .18 being fixes and expansion, .19 adding career, again that is just my speculation, however what you could do is send up the modules assemble them in space like you would if docking worked, but then replace with a completed non-wet noodle version of the craft, its the simplest fix and allows you to keep the "realism" in the series, the on future problem i foresee is when you need to undock a part, i would say just use the teleportation function instead of doing all the work of "cheating" the vehicle where you need it, but its seems like you can only teleport to things around kerbin, unless hogdriver or someone fixes this which i could see being a soon fix then official docking, but like i said all just speculations and suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan_92 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 At the very least we could start designing the various modules now with existing parts. People hat interplanetary ships ready to go when .17 hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
souza Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Awesome can't wait to see pics/videos of this thing taking of and orbiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alline1999 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) well we and just make it all in one pice then change the presistance a little bit to get it in orbit and for servral parts you use decouplers like for the space plane and then get a rendez vous in orbit and let the kerbals go so the main ship in a crew capsule and leave the space plane behind or somthing Edited October 6, 2012 by alline1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Barrett Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 well we and just make it all in one pice then change the presistance a little bit to get it in orbit and for servral parts you use decouplers like for the space plane and then get a rendez vous in orbit and let the kerbals go so the main ship in a crew capsule and leave the space plane behind or somthingAre you suggesting that I should cheat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bioman222 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Wait... Isn't the mod named erkle warp clamps? I thought it was a docking clamp that could withstand time warping!Oh, and Bio Space Manufacturing Co. would be delighted to help you if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thobewill10 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 That's not the problem. The problem is that the joints on either docking system are far too weak for a job like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoLucario Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 if your copying the bbc documentry, one of the crew should die of explosive cancer, which means, he should be sacrificed, i wish i could get rondevouz down otherwise i'd try to build a ship for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbowyer28 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Well practice makes perfect Lucario, Chech this out It helped me learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapy97 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 i am thinking of entering Maple-Zap CO in on this when we get it set up for launch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Barrett Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 I might make it a shared save kind of thing, where everyone docks a certain part to the ship, but we would have to plan everything in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alline1999 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 well it would be awsome if you did it all legit and i am not saying you have to cheat what i actualy was trying to say is if your actualy unable to get the ship in orbit you could just change the presistance to place it in orbit and just for excample to balnce it out get rid of the fuel it actualy should needed to use to get in orbit becuas you said it 90 procent of the time it wont make it to orbit so but ofcoars you can try to get in the 10 procent and get it in orbit wich actualy would be awsome but it was a suggestion if you coulnd get it into orbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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