KSP Community CubeSat

[Error404brain]

Field goal!

Well. Study if inflatable module can be used for a freakin spacestation ?

Prove that u can have plants on space, withou anymore protection than a thin layer of plastic/metal ?

[Kryten]

Phonesats aren't a new idea, and certainly not a unique hook. NASA's launched no less than five of them.

[Error404brain]

Oh. Derp. It's Just that I thought you where saying that the whole CubeSat would be pressurized. Sorry. And also, how much will the inflaitable expand?

1U. Enough for plants. and we need an heater too. don't forget it.

[Kevon87]

I think a small Kerbal figurine with a camera pointing at and some way to transmit still shots would suffice for a first mission.

[Nicholander]

What is the required temperature for the plants and bacteria to not die in space? And how much would a heater that can withstand apace cost?

[Error404brain]

Mmmh didn't tought about the whole biological risk. Tether on the other hand might work.

I just failed my 1st year in engineering (let's all blame ksp for it ) and I live in Europe (belgium), but I can do part of the job (already launched a baloon with a temperatur captor, pressure captor and O2 cpator into high athmosphere (6km) with a friend. We does get back to earth the data but heck if I know where it is).

[Nicholander]

So we can't bring biological matter into space? Well that's a pity. What else can we do with a pressurized inflatable module?

[Error404brain]

What is the required temperature for the plants and bacteria to not die in space? And how much would a heater that can withstand apace cost?

20° (we should use a really small easy plant (Java moss for exemple (need a bit of water tough)))

The heather wouldn't be pricy cuz it would be inside the inflatable part, so no space grade thingy).

After some reflexion. Wouldn't it be way more easy to just have a sheet of inflatable material ?

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I being inflatable.

SO we just have to manage 1 bar of pression

[Error404brain]

We need to put an O2 captor and an pressure one thus, for to prove that inflatable don't crack.

We just need a kerbal flag and a jeb statue otherwise.

And with something like that, not amovible space panel might be sufficient (?)

[Error404brain]

So, simple, low cost mission. Because the tether would be quite hard to manage.

We can stack srbs under a larguable jeb

[Drunken Hobo]

Drunken Hobo, you say that inflatables are fantasy? I mean seriously, it's not a new propulsion system, it doesn't require any expensive communications systems, and it can fit in a 1U CubeSat!

Has there ever been an inflatable module on a CubeSat? I can't find any, and the only example of plants on a CubeSat that I can find is are single spores on Nasa's SporeSat.

Has there ever been a CubeSat that uses ion thrusters for propulsion? I can only find concepts & future missions, not any that have been launched or are currently active.

[Nicholander]

Neat, so our inflatable plan is coming smoothly. Also, how would we analyse the moss, and should we do things like seeing how the moss behaves under diffrent temperate and pressure levels?And I wonder whay K^2 thinks of our inflatable idea.

[lajoswinkler]

What is the required temperature for the plants and bacteria to not die in space? And how much would a heater that can withstand apace cost?

Depends what kind of bacteria and what kind of plant. Heating is not a problem. Getting rid of heat is.

[Nicholander]

Has there ever been an inflatable module on a CubeSat? I can't find any, and the only example of plants on a CubeSat that I can find is are single spores on Nasa's SporeSat.Has there ever been a CubeSat that uses ion thrusters for propulsion? I can only find concepts & future missions, not any that have been launched or are currently active.

It's probably possible for us to put biological matter on the mission so we can study it, and we dropped the ion propulsion idea.

[Aethon]

What is the required temperature for the plants and bacteria to not die in space? And how much would a heater that can withstand apace cost?

Heater? Check me if I'm wrong here Sandy but the direct sun temp at the Earth moon distance is 121 degrees C (250 degrees F[ not to mention what the air temp inside a sealed.... something does in direct sunlight]), and then 45 min. after sunrise the temp will plunge to -156 C (-250 F) as we move to the night side, so heaters and a chiller.

Wait... I, I can see the future... The mission report's coming in.... Unfortunately I think it's a failure. Unless you can find a better way.

Not trying to be mean, just funny.

[Error404brain]

The advantage of that moss is that it die dried if u don't supply it in water. So, if our inflatable break, that die.

IF we can put biological matter on it, we would get our green life form in orbit. That actually sound awesome, or it's just me ?

[Nicholander]

So, a chiller should also be cheap, because it's going to be in the pressurized area.

[Error404brain]

"Wait... I, I can see the future... The mission report's coming in.... Unfortunately I think it's a failure. Unless you can find a better way.

Not trying to be mean, just funny."

Well. Said like that...

Can we cool it like a fridge or forget about moss at all ?

[Nicholander]

Maybe Java Moss are secretly Kerbals... DUN DUN DUN Dundundundun!!!

Anyway, are we allowed to put moss on our CubeSat? I think we are. And also, ahould we see how thw moss acts under diffrent temperate and pressure levels?

Edited July 16, 2014 by Nicholander

[Error404brain]

"Anyway, are we allowed to put moss on our CubeSat? I think we are. And also, ahould we see how thw moss acts under diffrent temperate and pressure levels?"

That die. That can withstand 0 to 40 degree but 120 sound not so promising

Okay. Let's just monitor O2 and pressure (except if someone can get a light geiger ? )

That would already need some hard work.

[Nicholander]

So, is that the basics of the inflatiable done? Is there anything more we need to discus about it? Also, I think we should put some bacteria in there as well, and see how they react to the moss in a micro-gravity enviroment. And I need to get some sleep, so I'll be offline for a bit.

[Error404brain]

Same here.

Tomorow I will look the launcher for to know wich one accept biological stuff.

[frizzank]

I think we should ask NASA if we can use their mothballed or scrap rocket parts (SRB's, fuel tanks, rocket engines) to cobble together a real life Kerbal rocket.

This would be a volunteer project using parts that they were going to scrap anyways. The project would have a low chance of success but it would be a great experiment in terms of cost savings using off the shelf, garbage parts and still may give some useful scientific data.

Also it's right in line with Kerbal rocket launch philosophy.

[N_las]

I think we should ask NASA if we can use their mothballed or scrap rocket parts (SRB's, fuel tanks, rocket engines) to cobble together a real life Kerbal rocket.

This would be a volunteer project using parts that they were going to scrap anyways. The project would have a low chance of success but it would be a great experiment in terms of cost savings using off the shelf, garbage parts and still may give some useful scientific data.

Also it's right in line with Kerbal rocket launch philosophy.

You can't be serious... This thread is so ridiculous. Go ahead: Call NASA. I am sure they have tons of mothballed old rocket parts that they give to anybody who asked nicely.

[lajoswinkler]

I think we should ask NASA if we can use their mothballed or scrap rocket parts (SRB's, fuel tanks, rocket engines) to cobble together a real life Kerbal rocket.

This would be a volunteer project using parts that they were going to scrap anyways. The project would have a low chance of success but it would be a great experiment in terms of cost savings using off the shelf, garbage parts and still may give some useful scientific data.

Also it's right in line with Kerbal rocket launch philosophy.

No one will ever be allowed to do something like that. Do you seriously think NASA would allow fooling around with vehicles capable of delivering a warhead?

The things you'll hear on this thread...