Starwaster Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Not really seeing the problem with the existing K cockpit. It looks just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothalogh Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Not really seeing the problem with the existing K cockpit. It looks just fine.But his new WIP one looks even better, and since looking right is the most important part of flying right, I'd say he's doing it right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autochton Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 New K stuff looks awesome.Something I find to be missing is a bigger beefier main wing part, the existing one is great for J aircraft, but looks silly on KI would suggest looking into B9 Procedural Wings. They're fantastically flexible and really good looking. I use them extensively, having largely stopped using all other wing parts, save a few of the stock control surfaces (which remain practical for tail stabilizers, elevators, rudders and stabilators). You can even adjust them to not have a trailing or leading edge, and attach control surfaces there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto-the-Wolf-Dog Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 New K stuff looks awesome.Something I find to be missing is a bigger beefier main wing part, the existing one is great for J aircraft, but looks silly on KI recommend getting creative with the huge stock airplane wings. I've been making a habit of playing with those and the smaller curved deltas because they actually have some surface geometry to them and look a little more alive. Tweakscale helps too, although I mostly use it for winglets.I know it's not K fuselage, but you get the picture. The placement and rotation adjustment tools are a godsend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I accidentally the space plane. The whole space plane.Is this bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReaper Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I accidentally the space plane. The whole space plane.http://i.imgur.com/ilrtcKvl.jpgIs this bad?i cant see anything, i cant understand anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABZB Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 The cockpit survived. Any landing that you can breathe away from is a good landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Ouellette Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I accidentally the space plane. The whole space plane.http://i.imgur.com/ilrtcKvl.jpgIs this bad?Kind of hard to tell from that image, it looks like the parts are still airborne, but in any case, was it fun doing it? If so, then the mission was a success!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCardinal Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 After the Tadpole here's the Ugly Ducklett. It's smaller than the Tadpole but it's still an SSTO with even easier flight characteristics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innociv Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I often have a bunch of problems with OPT parts or things attached to them being really jittery and ripping themselves apart, and not even going down straight on the runway even though they're perfectly symmetrical. Is there a fix for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railgunner2160 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I often have a bunch of problems with OPT parts or things attached to them being really jittery and ripping themselves apart, and not even going down straight on the runway even though they're perfectly symmetrical. Is there a fix for that?IIRC that issue should be fixed by the part remodel in the next version.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Ouellette Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I often have a bunch of problems with OPT parts or things attached to them being really jittery and ripping themselves apart, and not even going down straight on the runway even though they're perfectly symmetrical. Is there a fix for that?IIRC that issue should be fixed by the part remodel in the next version....In the mean time be careful about part clipping, OPT reacts badly to parts sticking into other parts in some areas, I've noticed this with the K cargo and fuel modules, anything sticking into it too far is guaranteed to come apart on the runway, moving parts out to where they just merge helps and a liberal use of struts is also very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 After the Tadpole here's the Ugly Ducklett. It's smaller than the Tadpole but it's still an SSTO with even easier flight characteristics. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14923883/screenshot2.pngKinda reminds me of that civilian shuttle from Babylon 5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptRichardson Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 After the Tadpole here's the Ugly Ducklett. It's smaller than the Tadpole but it's still an SSTO with even easier flight characteristics. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14923883/screenshot2.pngI pulled that off with a Mk 2 hull after a bit of experimentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCardinal Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I pulled that off with a Mk 2 hull after a bit of experimentation.I've done it with the mk2 cockpit as well. I merely show the designs because i like the K cockpit so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomos Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I got multiple of null reference errors with FAR when using OPT Space Plane Scram Jet Engine. Randomly it gets ripped apart! At litfoff or during high flight like in the vids below... Removing the scramjet fixed it... I reached space only on thermalnuclear engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderSpock Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Hey are there craft files for this anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomos Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 The plane that works ok. Scramjet removed and changed with other partshttp://kerbalx.com/zomos/Passanger-SSTO-SpadePlane that breaks apart:http://kerbalx.com/zomos/Passanger-SSTO---tst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I got multiple of null reference errors with FAR when using OPT Space Plane Scram Jet Engine. Randomly it gets ripped apart! At litfoff or during high flight like in the vids below... Removing the scramjet fixed it... I reached space only on thermalnuclear engines.Can't say anything about the errors but it looks to me like you're going too fast. That's a powerful engine on a small plane.(the structural failures are FAR. Either disable structural failures in the FAR menus or fly within its limits) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomos Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) Lets look other thing the logs with and without engine:http://i.imgur.com/AFizglU.pngand without:http://i.imgur.com/EIZwigD.pngI got rip apart at ~200m/s at low altitudes and about 2kms /s at 40km, totaly random. Sometimes just at liftoff sometimes at 5km at speed of ~300m/s. This is something FAR is miscalculating and it involves some errors at TuroboRamJet... With other engines from different mod everything is OK. I posted this on FAR topic but it trully is something with OPT TurboRamJet...Structural failures, I know they came from FAR. But why the hell the whole plane disintegrates while flying straight ? WHOLE! not intakes, not only landing gears... WHOLE, the fuselage gets disintegrated while flying straight not turning or something... In the video above it disintegrates at 40km at speed of 2km/s while it does not disintegrate at 20km(much thicker atmosphere) at 1 km/s ? WHY ? And why it can randomly disintegrate at 200m/s at sea level ? Also flying into the stream... Edited September 6, 2015 by zomos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Zomos, I don't know. When I play with FAR (which I usually don't) I play without structural failures at all because I don't consider them to be handled in a realistic or reasonable fashion.Also, instead of screenshots showing the errors, why not post the actual logs that have the errors? (output_log.txt if Windows; player.log if Linux or Mac. No ksp.log)The log files will actually tell you where those errors are actually happening. (i.e. what class and method the exception was thrown in and which classes/methods called it as far down the chain as can be traced)And, apropos of nothing in particular, I'll leave my latest creation here. (which happens to have the same Turbo Ramjet... used in what I hope is an interesting manner ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiutukri Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Hi, I have a problem:My cockpit only shows 2 kerbals (it should be more). This only happens with my OPT cockpits, the others are working fine. I've tried to fix it by reinstalling the OPT mod but it didn't work. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Hi, I have a problem:My cockpit only shows 2 kerbals (it should be more). This only happens with my OPT cockpits, the others are working fine. I've tried to fix it by reinstalling the OPT mod but it didn't work. Any ideas?You can't fix it. It's because the internal only has 2 seats set up. It has to be fixed in the mod itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiutukri Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 You can't fix it. It's because the internal only has 2 seats set up. It has to be fixed in the mod itselfDamn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomos Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Still my planes using FAR and OPT explode. Even when I disabled the Structural failures due to aerodynamic stress. The plane choice was to totally disintegrate when I turned on the OPT Engine. Here the log please:https://www.dropbox.com/s/65797etjd5eungf/output_log_ksp_opt.txt?dl=0extreme amount of NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object it says about FAR. The lack of OPT Engine and everything works fine... The null exceptions of mumech are from thermalnuclear engines of other mod. Any clues ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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