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Thank you, it works perfectly! Would it be possible to remove the "Governor" button when "CalculateEfficiency = false", since it doesn't actually do anything in these modules?
possible, will put it on the list (bear in mind it will be far down the list since I think you're the only person using this undocumented tweak
)Hey, I'm having a bit of trouble with this... The Scanner only scans for Kethane and no other resources....You need to click on the arrows in the Kethane overlay to look at the different elements available
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Have been playing with MKS for a while now, I really love the idea! This adds so much to the lategame phases of KSP! Thank you RoverDude!
Just some thoughts for a possible addon to MKS at later stages of developement:
Have you thought about supporting ORS in addition to Kethane? It would require some work generating the configs, but because you have no direct ressource extraction it could be an optional download.
I've been tinkering with it a little bit, works quite well with MKS, and it changes the way it's played only a little bit. It is possible to have all the ressources everywhere on the planet, but with different concentrations, which affects the extraction rate. It is possible at a bad spot (with almost no ressources) to support a basic colony without needing a second mining base. At later stages you will need to mine somewhere else (if you haven't set up your base at a very good location right at the start, like in "vanilla" MKS). Wouldn't mind a little KSPI support (reactor/radiator/science/...modules, everything as an optional download ofc.) either.
Congratulations on the release btw
Regards, Stage
On the roadmap - generating the PNGs is the bit that I am dreading tbh, but something I do want to do
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It would be my pleasure but I'll need to sleep a bit. ... try the mod and if you see your stuff fits its look and feel, we can combine the two.
Good deal - will ping you offline. I think the two will make a nice fit.
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Nifty! Was just about to build a part similar to your probe for the Hollow Asteroids mod (currently wrapping up the API for dynamic tank partitioning). Would not mind chatting and see if we can work together on some asteroid goodness
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I've been giving these a playthrough, and I have to say I'm loving them! Not sure if this has been mentioned previously, but I'd suggest that you re-order the stack nodes in the TubeHub.cfg so that the node_stack_top and node_stack_bottom are the last two in the list. This will allow attaching the hub inline to other parts without having to rotate it first. Sorry if that's a repeat, I didn't see any comments about it on a quick skim through previous pages.
Btw, I appreciate the bump for the Cargo Transportation Solutions
They do work well together.Thanks for the catch - just fixed it
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Just packaged the release version including the alternate configs. Going to do one last sanity check, then prepare the release thread
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So here's the plan RE CoolBeer's configs.
I am going to just run his multipliers through an alternate config set (I generate all of my configs procedurally). This will be on GitHub, and you would just copy these over the existing MKS Parts folder. It will assume you have already sorted out the rest of the stuff with TAC. I will make zero guarantees - things may be unleashed, children may be eaten
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the number of launches that station took was amazing, I think it was close to 50. not sure how I had the patience for it. although it was easier than the 65MM orbit I call it Extreme Kerbin Orbit.
Not suprised, but then that means the mod is working as it should.
Here's how I do my bases:
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Now, I know I will sound like a greedy *******, but...
Any ETA on that? When you finalize the mod or sooner?
I'm testing final benchmarks right now, then that's on the agenda for tonight - I will launch with it.
Had to slightly ease up some production rates on after I had repeated incidents of Kerbin's smartest Kerbonauts dieing en masse.
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No worries - my plan is to have a separate download that rebalances all of the configs appropriately, I just need to play with his configs and make sure I break nothing
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So, having concluded 7 station and 4 base tests, I've found no major bugs (my computer seems to ignore most bugs other people run across, so that may not be helpful to you) and the only thing I found with the bases was the power consumption. a base on minmus after the new power consumption rates were executed worked just fine, the mun base still had power issues till I dropped a 2nd pdu. The largest station I had running was 1MM kerbin orbit with over 700 parts and 25 kerbals and it worked great. I'd say all thats left are any bugfixes from other people and final tweaks.
Excellent - Just finished some final Proxy Logistics tweaks on my end, but overall it's looking pretty solid, so I think this may actually be released this week.
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RED SCARY UPDATE
Two models had to chage.
The Jumbo tubs used in StorageHut_01 - 03 are now narrower so that they fit in the Cargo Transportations Solutions parts (which are awesome for transporting MKS components). This will not break stuff, but it will look weird.
The docking port had a major change.
- It is now radially attachable
- The strengths are slightly tweaked (It's still prettty aggressive, but it's made to work even if your Kerbal is just pushing bits around),
- It is now KAS Grabbable!
- It had it's center point redone to support KAS/Radial attachment
The last bit will cause Bad Things to happen if you grab them. Don't grab them on a base where you don't want to see exploding docking ports.
(Sorry for the changes, just doing another complete shakedown and trying to clear any remaining friction points).
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This looks like a really interesting mod. Just one suggestion: add links to Kethane and TACLS release threads so people DL'ing your mod don't have to search the forums to find the dependencies your mod has.
Sure, makes sense
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I just had a look at the colors in game. Nice choice. Nicer than what EL previously had. Yes, past tense: I've already committed and pushed the changes. They'll be in the next release.
Thanks! I'll also double check my stuff to use the EL spawn rate, quantities, etc.
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FYI very pleased with these - I'm using them now for my MKS walkthrough tests
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There actually is. User Coolbeer created such cfg files. They are a few, but the conversion itself is made using MM v.2.x.x's math functions. He is also defining the consumption rates in another file.
This is the only thing for conversion of TACLS to liters and kg. Coolbeer has made a great job of it and as far as I know - everyone who is using a conversion is using this one, since it's the only community patch available
I would appreciate it if you can give your opinion on whether it's possible to include an alternative MKS dl which would work with this TACLS patch.
I have no problem at all supporting a secondary download. If you can give me a direct link to Coolbeer's stuff I will plug it in tonight.
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Something like this or a thrust-limiter style toggle/tweekable would be very useful.
Will add that as a future enhancement. Side note - airlocking is always an option
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FYI - on a positive note, I just executed the following test.
Ship 1: Colony Hub + Supply Hut with six Kerbals. One day of life support.
Ship 2: Supply Hut with 1500 units each of food and oxygen.
Warped out and fast forwarded about 100 days - it showed the main ship being out of resources for over 90 days (there was a small amount transferred by ProxyLogistics when I had focus before doing the time warp)
Upon return, TAC-LS caught up, and all Kerbals are alive. 17 units of all resources left in ship 1, and ship 2 was drained down to 885 of each.
So Proxy Logistics is working perfectly even when operating on rails and well past the point where Kerbals would normally die.
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Oh - and the generator governer is now in. If turned on, it limits efficiency to 100% so you don't accidentally drain your power making punch cards or something silly.
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Has anyone come up with a working stasis/hibernation chamber compatible with TACLS yet?
I think tackling the problem from the opposite direction - i.e. have a mod that changes the state of the Kerbal in question - would make more sense, and also remove the LS dependency. For example, it could 'Kill' the Kerbal, then bring them back to life upon landing and re-insert them into the craft.
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Shame. Unfortunately this may not happen anytime soon, as Taranis mentioned he will not be available in the coming months(or atleast that is what I remember).
I would look into transforming units to liters and kg, but I guess your resource amounts in MKS are predefined and have other resources with dependencies on them, so a simple conversion of 1 unit of water to xxx units of water might break other things in MKS.
Seems like I will have to postpone the MKS expansion in my save.
If there's an accepted community patch for this let me know and I have no problem including it as an alternate configuratiuon.
(Or, to go one step further, make it an MKS dependency if it is a De Facto config)
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Going back to my last question about the wireless transfer, do modules that are producing items automatically send them to the large supply tank and then modules that need said items automatically take them from said tank? I am just trying to get this automatic transfer down to a T before attempting to make a manned base in career mode lol
Depends. ConstructionParts do not flow, so they would not fill the tank automaticallty. Anything that flows will eventually overflow into one of the large supply huts (life support, materials, etc.)
Every tick, the storage huts are going to check and see if they have their minimum threshold (this is pretty light.. like, 1% or so of capacity). If it does not have it in that part, it will try to grab it from nearby vessels.
One thing on my list to test is to make sure this works properly with TAC-LS after really long (multi-year) warps. I have a plan B if it does not (basically an older version of ProxyLogistics that tied more directly into the generators). Will post something a lot more detailed later today/this eve after I run a test. This will consist of a stand-alone supply hut full of stuff, separated from another ship that needs LS and also has a supply hut, to make sure the resources flow properly when focus is lost for long time periods (it works fine when things are active).
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Also looks like the walkthrough is going to be an eight to ten mission long epic
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I also see what the issue of heavy consumption likely is while bootstrapping... Smart Kerbals increase efficiency, which increases power consumption. So, three options:
1. Send stupid Kerbals in your poineer mission
2. Send the first mission unmanned (slower)
3. I can add an option to enable a 'Governor' that caps modules at 100% to aid in managing power consumption. This is more relevant for smaller Kolonies since as they get past the first few modules, it's pretty easy to just move your Kerbals around.
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Ah, that's a shame.I think it just identifies parts with crew capacities with its cfgs right now. I may try to do it by defining specific parts in a new cfg. Otherwise the TAC conversion itself is done via a separate resources cfg.
I'll be changing MKS once TAC-LS finalizes on the new units as well
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The PDU takes ~50 days or so to come online with basic construction at 150% efficiency, and in the meantime I need 3-5 more PDUs worth of batteries to get through the night without cheating past via warp, so...
I guess what I hope to develop a sense of for the sake of my planing process is: How exactly are PDUs expected to fit within the energy ballance framework? Particularly within the boot-strap, multi-phase development philosophy that permeates the mod.
If PDUs are intended to act as primary energy supplies across the board rather than supplements to solar, then they're completely useless to me, really. With solar being ignored or marginalized, then the battery capacity has no reason to be there (since it's not intended to be used) and in terms of launch mass a NFP or KSPI nuclear reactor+10 years fuel is going to provide much better value than pre-loading a PDU with construction parts (and not penalize overall base efficiency in the process).
The PDU can operate at 50% capacity (basically the same as about 10 RTG's) without crew and without it's generator active. So you can bootstrap with a PDU and some supplemental solar arrays. You'll also want battery reserves for things that are more spikey, like drilling for resources, etc.
Power wise, we'll call 5,000 ElectricCharge per hour a 'Power Unit'. All MKS modules use between one and four power units per hour. So a module's batteries can keep it online for an extra 15 minutes to two hours, and a PDU can extend this another 3-12 hours depending on the generator's draw. So with some good balancing, you just need enough solar to rejuvenate the various battery components (and we're talking 100K+) which can be enough to handle a generator or two in the night cycle.
So as a yardstick, A PDU without constructionParts (i.e. bootstrap mode) should have sufficient power, without solar panels, to keep a ColonyHub and active ConstructionHub rolling
Personally, I tend to really optimize where I place crew, and which modules I have active (which is part of the intent with MKS - it makes these details important).
My plan for this weekend is to redo two reference missions - one to the Mun, and one to Duna - and provide the loadout for both (along with new screenshots and possibly some video) for the tutorials.
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First of all, thank you for this mod, I'm really looking forward to trying it in practice.
Just one question though: I'm planning to kolonize Laythe, and if I calculate it correctly, given that there is an unlimited supply of water and oxygen on Laythe, the one resource that my colony would need to start producing a food surplus (my ultimate goal for this colony) is... carbon dioxide. However absurd that might sound, it seems that my colony is going to have a carbon dioxide deficit. Would you be willing to provide us with some way to either extract carbon dioxide from atmosphere or produce it locally (by burning coal I'd assume, perhaps a conventional power plant/heating center)?
The BioLab does exactly this
With that and the water purifier from the Terraformer module, you'd be in excellent shape (it was added specifically to cover this instance). Not that right now, you still won't be able to get any extra water from Laythe - have not yet adjusted the Kethane config to reflect that.
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[WIP] Reconfigurable Tanks and Planetary Tanks
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So one of the things I need to build out for Hollow Asteroids is the ability to dynamically allocate storage space in a part (since you could fill your asteroid with Kethane, snacks, whatever). I've decided to knock this out as both an open API, and also just for fun, to do an offshoot of Hollow Asteroids that lets you mine massive storage spaces in the crust of a planet or moon.
It works by attaching resource 'ports' to a 'tank' that has a definition of both available and mazimum capacity (i.e. as you mine it out). These can then be tweaked, expanding and contracting the space allocated to each port relative to the tank's overall capacity (visualize a barrel filled with a handful of large balloons - as you contract a balloon, it changes the available space for other baloons to expand into).
Also looking at how to use the same concept to let the user create dynamic IVS-enabled caverns or wet workspaces based on used capacity (Just don't fill it back up with LFO with Jeb inside).
Obligatory screenshot:
There's a central tank with a dozen compartments, and three 'ports' attached. Works a treat once launched, working on handling IVA, then doing some fun tweaking with COM calculations.