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Okay... I see. Also, K^2, how's that "shopping list" you said you would make earlier to show how much our Base Goal CubeSat would cost?

I think that we shouldn't mess with deployable solar panels, i think static ones will provide enough electricity. Also, Fyre Flare, hold your horses! We couldn't even put up a funding goal right now because we don't know how much this will cost!

Also, how will we get the CubeSat to start spinning once it's in LEO?

What do you mean? You're leaving this project like Packled Hostage?!? Or am I just terrible at understanding things.

So we've got an objective, A centrifuge and (Hopefully, if the LV carriers allow it) biological matter. What else is there, so how expensive will our base goal be? 60k? 40k? 50k?

No replies? Okay. Here's the next part: The Russian Empire was vast, the largest nation on earth, well, not including colonies at least. The launch of the first V-2 by the German Empire was worrying to the Russians, and because they we're viewed as the natural rivals of the Germans. So not to be outdone by the German Empire, they ordered that a ballistic missile be designed, and there were 3 main designs that were submitted (Along with a few other missile designs that were made by smaller and lesser known teams or people), one was designed by Valentin Glushko, another designed by Sergei Korolev, and the last one made by Vladimir Chelomi. They all found this opportunity to get funds to hopefully be able to move onto larger rocketry. Though finally, as was proven by ground tests and a failed test flight of Chelomi's design (It exploded 17 seconds after launch), Glushko's design, the Tsar Missile, was chosen to be used and produced for military use. Mission: Tsar Flight A1 Vehicle: Tasr Ballistic Missile Launch Site: Kasputsin Yar Mission's Nation: Russian Empire Objective: Test Glushko's Tsar Missile over the Black Sea Intended Orbit: High Atmospheric (80 Km apogee) Launch Date: July, 26th, 1947 The Tsar Missile on the launch pad in Kasputsin Yar. Lift off! Rising through the clouds. Near space, burning to reduce the apogee so we don't burn up on reentry. Engine cut off. The flight continues and successfully crashes into the Black sea. (Sorry that I forgot to take any screen shots of that!) The mission is a success! This shows that Glushko's design work's, and is humiliating for Korolev and Chelomi, who now need to find another way to get funds.

*Facepalm* *Facepalm* *Infinite Facepalm* Forget what i said about the centrifuge. I didn't read it correctly. Sorry. *More facepalm*

Ah, so our basic mission we're doing a centrifuge and a "Life in a jar". Great! K^2, I think we should put some Java Moss and maybe some bacteria in the jar. - - - Updated - - - I think we're putting it in a 1U, not a tiny 0.5U.

I still think proper computer systems and such are better then a Smartphone. As K^2 said, the only real advantage they give is that they have a camera. And there's also a lot more drawbacks. I also like the idea of doing the "All in one" mission, with the gravity centrifuge, "Jungle in a jar", electrodynamic tethered propulsion, and pressurized inflatable. Though that will have to be a stretch goal.

The least I've seen a CubeSat KickStarted for is 50k. So we can do at least double then 20k to 25k for our KickStarter.

List Of Craft In Above The Sky V-2: V-2 TF-1

Above The Sky An Alternate Space Age It's a new age on the planet Earth. The superpowers of the world have started to look up to the cosmos, 30 years after The Great War, the next technological revolution has begun. Humanity has breached the limits of the atmosphere, and world's eyes now seem to be turned skyward. The age of rocketry has come. Now, before I show the rocket launches and such, Here's an explanation of how the world is in this timeline: The German Empire, Austria-Hungary, Tsarist Russia, The Ottoman Empire, and a modernized Qing China still exist. The United States is not a super power as it is today, as it is a much more agricultural and less urbanized. The Great War ended with the Christmas peace in 1914, the same year it began, because the Christmas Truce turned into an actual peace, and there were no territorial changes or anything. A white peace. In 1927, Italy declares war on Austria-Hungary to get back the Austro-Hungarian controlled areas of Italy, and the German Empire thus declares war on Italy. Italy surrenders after it's clear there's no chance of victory after Venice and Genoa are lost and Austro-Hungarian and German soldiers are rapidly approaching closer to Rome. In the peace talks, The German Empire makes Italy give Capo Passero Naval Base for 100 years. And there is never a World War II, nor the Great Depression. So, without further ado, let's start this: Wernher Von Braun actually designed the V-2 rocket in 1940, though The German Empire's government was not interested in rocketry technology. But in 1944, they finally decided to start development on Von Braun's V-2. After a few small test flights of the V-1 (In this universe it's for rocket engine development, not a cruse missile) Mission: V-2 TF-1 Vehicle: V-2 Launch Site: Capo Passero Naval Base Mission's Nations: German Empire Objective: Test the V-2 ballistic missile over the Mediteranean Intended Orbit: High atmospheric (70 Km apogee) Launch Date: August, 16th, 1946 V-2 TF-1, ready to begin it's flight into history. Lift off! Rising steadily... Gaining altitude, and the Sun. A bit later, Sicily and Southern Italy are clearly visible. Apogee. You can see the stars! We are near the cosmos! Plunging back into the thicker atmosphere. Just before impact into the Mediterranean. You can notice a bit of the nose burned up during reentry, but let's ignore that. This mission is a success! The V-2 is proven to work and be effective, so future tests and maybe some scientific analysis of the upper atmosphere can be done. Feedback is greatly appreciated, and you may notice some similarities with Reaching for the stars, which is true. I got the idea for this after looking at that.

I don't know what K^2 will think of the smartphone CubeSat, and I think that we still should do 1U, we can fit more systems and experiments in it.

Really? The CubeSat KickStarters I've seen tend to be less the 100k, and they are not bare bones. So maybe they made some homemade stuff or they bought there equipment else where.

I looked at that earlier, and the structures are cheaper then the ones on CubeSatShop.com. Though, we could make homemade structures.

Well, okay, if we ever want to have an electrodynamic tethered propulsion we'll need a 3U, or maybe we can fit it in a 2U. Anyway, on the topic of what the base goal should do, what are some of the experiments and instruments we could put on it, that are not insanely expensive and compact?

Hahaha But seriously, what can we do up there in LEO that can be done with our main funding goal? Maybe something similar to ArduSat (Another KickStarted CubeSat) where people can submit code in the Ardunio computer language and do science with the CubeSat. That's just an idea.

So the electrodynamic tethered propulsion is a stretch goal. So what should our base mission do? You said some basic instruments and a camera, but do you have any ideas which are achievable for the base mission and unique/interesting?

cpast, you can also do it with a smaller 2U, and as how I described maybe a 1U.

Well, we can fit the counterweight on the inside of the 1U CubeSat, though the computers and systems would need to be pretty compact, because some of the space would be taken by the counterweight deployment bay. Though, it can still be done.

Yes, I see your point. But there is nothing wrong with doing something new and unique, and by doing that we would probably get more funds on our KickStarter. EDIT: Also, here's an electrodynamic tethered propulsion visualization I made:

So you're saying that we can only do the electrodynamic tethered propulsion tech demo as a stretch goal? *Sigh* For our main funding goal, what unique thing would we be able to do? We shouldn't just do a downgraded version of something that has already been done before, who will be interested in that?

Tens of thousands? As AngelLestat said, it is actually quite cheap. Just an aluminum wire and a weight on the other end.

Yeah, that's called stretch goals. But I do think that we can do an electrodynamic tethered propulsion tech demo.

That's also a brilliant idea! So we could test electrodynamic tethered propulsion, cheap and no one's successfully done it before!