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It is impressive to see so many new ships and ship creators on this thread! I remember seeing the first page of this thread starting up and HatBat starting with the announcements. It really is quite interesting to be gone for a very long time and see all the new things. Keep up the good work, I myself have decided with all the new parts, to rebuild and improve my original 3 contributions,(I can't even remember what I named them lol), btw, @HatBat, when is season 2 going to start releasing? Just a ballpark figure would be appreciated.

As the VLO Dominion(formerly VLO Industries) we believe in one thing, strength. In the beginnings of our civilization, a famous philosopher named Klato talked about achieving enlightenment, casting off the shadows cast by the puppeteers. We have ascended beyond that enlightenment, and reached our own. There is only power or a lack of power, there is either a one or a zero, there is either heat or cold, there is either light or darkness, there is either strength or weakness. In all of recorded Kerbal history, the strong survive and prosper, and the weak suffer and die. No matter how righteous the weak were, and how tyrannical the strong were. It was always the strong that shaped history. That is why we have chosen to ally with GMI, enjoy your feelings of safety inside your paper behemoths, we will look on from the shadows with power you all hope of possessing. Stand against us, and you will all know regret and sorrow. You will know pain and anguish when you try to even begin to sail among with the stars. We will knock your ships out of orbit as there is not space enough for all of us. Stand against us, HKA and her allies and you will know the feeling of helplessness, you will know your own insolence.

JJ Abrams called, he wants his uberl3nzfl@re back. Btw, please respond to my PM.

VLO Industries presents its latest anti-capital weaponry. We proudly place on the market, the Wraith Advanced Long Range Ship to Ship Missile, (ALRSSM). Not only capable of devastating the heaviest armored warships in a single hit, but also capable of going through atmospheres to attack ground targets.

It would be better to just tell him the orbits(apoapsis and periapsis) of each ship and station, as he would not be able to directly integrate to save files.

I do not see why not, you CAN make a separate company that would use your own ships. But you would have to ask HatBat, as he is the one that writes the story and he might see usefulness in adding such a faction, it is better to PM him rather than putting it out on the message board. Oh and BTW, when I mean making your own company, it is basically your own manufacturer and company. Basically it is just like HKA or GMI. Also the next episode is the season finale, so you will have to wait until next season to possibly see it.

Well, guess I should make an official post for my Wraith ALRSSM anti-capital weapon.

It is logical to assume that any person wanting to make an impact on the thread and hence the YouTube channel would read the Original Post, my information on this is limited but from what I gathered, the save file that the show is recorded on is still in the previous version therefor you should also rebuild the ship in the previous version. Also B9 is not allowed on any class of craft. But you would know this if you had read the first page. Please do not tell me that you did not have time to read it, as you have constructed your ships to a level which should considered to be very nice and worthy of being in the series. Besides, you should have just emailed HatBat the .craft file directly. Or, you could have just asked, I would be more than willing to tell you how to post a .craft file, in fact I will. There is a free service called "Mediafire" Here is the link: https://www./ simply highlight the text with your mouse and right click, if you are using Chrome, then you will have an option to "Go to". Select this option. I have not been rude nor patronizing, it is only logical to assume that you have read the original post as you clearly state in post #678 in the second sentence that you do not know if this will be in the show, but clearly you hope that your submission will be in it, therefor it is logical that you want to make a hopefully positive impact on this thread and HatBat's YouTube channel, hence it is only natural to logically assume that you have read the original post, but clearly you have not. Any person that would want to make said impact would logically read the original post. It is unclear to me why you do not satisfy the parameters as you clearly want to make a positive impact. However it does not matter, the problem is now rectified as you know possess the required information to turn your post into a submission of quality, one worthy of praise. This will be my last submission on this topic, if you have any questions about contributing a submission, please do not hesitate to ask me or the other members on this thread. Welcome to the forum, Red, the Engineer.

Did you make sure to check the listed mods? I am pretty sure that the only rockets allowed on exoatmo fighters are the Hydra 70 rockets. And I have never seen those wings or cockpit, did you get those from one of the listed mods? or are they .25? Make sure to check the OP rules. Oh and BTW, you are supposed to put the .craft file on the post, you do realize HatBat is not going to ask you for it? He just goes along and dowloads and looks and then decides if he wants to put them into the story arc? Can you imagine if he had to ask each and everyone who has a ship to send a PM? Because right now you are just advertising and this is a submissions thread, not "look at my cool ship guys! if you want it, PM me!" It is rude to just swagger on here and post a ship that does not even comply with the rules and then ask for people to PM you to get it. You are wasting HatBat's time by derailing this thread with your adverts for a ship he wont use. He puts effort into checking each new post on the thread and responding to our requests and ideas. Please either just modify the craft to comply with the rules, put the .craft file on the original post, so he can save his time and actually look at your ship.

1. If it is not in the list, do not use it. 2. The weaker turrets are the .50 cal twin guns. The 20mm are fitted to heavy attack helicopters in IRL. They are too strong and OP to be mounted on space based military craft. 3. Yes, that is ok, that rule was made to be only for limiting BD armory, stock armament is encouraged so please feel free to design as much as you like. 4. Try "heavy fighter", you will have to check Rune's Skunkworks page, I believe that is where it is located. Feel free to design whatever ships you like. If they fit the rules then HatBat will not have a problem.

@HatBat, hows it going? Did you get the Inquisitor? Any thoughts on it?

Those are attack aircraft, not fighter-bombers. BTW, I am done with derailing this thread, if anyone wants to discuss this further, send me a PM.

Sorry, I meant successful fighter-bombers.

I agree with your statement Rune, the time of special munitions to special platforms is long gone. Drones will have a big part in the air to ground wars but very little parts in the air to air wars. I think that we will be having fighters like the T-50 in the future. Official statements include information about 5 radar arrays, one 1526 TR module X-band AESA, two sidelooking X-band300 TR AESA, and two L-band AESAs in the wings for counter-stealth and jamming L-band radars along with a most likely rear facing X-band AESA. Not only that but with a 360 degree IRST system along with a independent MAWS system and DIIRCM jamming systems. Combined with high speed supercruise >M1.8 thanks to the T-50s just plain silly huge fuel reserve, extremely high altitude operations thanks to the new life support systems, and high maneuverability to boot. My bet is that the T-50 will use it's sensors at a standoff range while passing that off to cheaper drones to attack ground targets, for air contacts I imagine the T-50 will engage those by itself. My assumption is that the drones that will attack the targets the T-50 designates will be extremely simple, engine, RWR/MAWS,stealthy shape, and a low IR engine with high efficiency to give it a large range, preferably to keep up with the T-50s. Anyway, I will stop derailing this thread, this will be my last message on this topic. BTW, I just wanted to point out that just because you have a fighter that can do multirole missions like bombing, does not classify it as a fighter-bomber. I enjoyed our discussion, let us PM each other to talk about this interesting subject.

*sigh* Very well, I was hoping to not have to drag this thread off course but it appears I will have to. The thing with "mutirole fighters" is that weapons technology became more advanced, it mattered less and less what platform delivered it. Take for example the Su-25T and its Shkval sensor system. The Shkval system was used to guide Vikhr missiles. However, time went on and with the proper laser exciter coding, you can nearly put Vikhrs on every platform as long as you obeyed the overall seeker-riding arc. Another example would be the A-10, it took down a lot of tanks with the AGM-65 Maverick. However, the Mav isn't unique to the A-10. When A-10s started to accumulate severe damage and losses from the Republican Guard, F-16s took over. They utilized the superior speed and maneuverability of the F-16 to help stay out of the Republican Guards defenses. And yes, Rune I am fully aware that F/A is Fighter/Attack. I remember when the F-15 was being designed, there was a popular motto, "not a pound for air to ground". But when they realized how the F-15s range, speed, large aperture radar, and plenty of pylons would lend itself well to air to ground munitions. In fact, the JDAM is an excellent example. It does not matter what platform carries it. All that matters is that you input the target coordinates, and subsequently drop it. F-15 or F-16 or F/A-18, they all make good air to ground platforms I am not disputing that. But a F-111 or a Su-34 would do it better as they were designed to carry out those missions from the start. They were made to have as much range and pylons possible. But I see your point, Su-34s can fire R-27 air to air missiles which allows it to have an air to air role, but it will never be suited for it the way a Su-35 would be. But an Su-35 can also use it's ridiculously strong Irbis radar to detect ground targets and attack them. But the single-seat Su-35 will not be as good as firing a Kh-59 and using its terminal tv guidance system. That is why it was made for aircraft like the Su-24.

1. J-10: that is not classified as a fighter-bomber, it is a multirole fighter design much like the F-16. 2.F/A-18: twin-engined carrier aircraft, again multirole supersonic aircraft, not a fighter-bomber. 3. AV-8B: single-engined VTOL operated from small to mini aircraft carriers or helicarriers, again multirole without focus on ground attack 4. F-35: single-engined multirole 5th generation supersonic overpriced trash(no wonder I forgot it). Fighter-bombers have the following characteristics: twin-engines for added weight carrying capability, a pilot and WSO(weapons station operator), inbuilt terrain following radar function, inbuilt laser designating unit with electro-optical devices, also has added provisions for jammers and EW suites, such as the wing-tip pylons on the Su-34 being able to carry massive SAP-518, and SAP-14 jammers. Edit: 1. Rafale: multirole supersonic single seat fighter, again not meant specifically for air to ground. 2. F-2 : multirole fighter, not meant for ground attack.

The Su-34 is a two seater, in fact there are very little single seat fighter bombers. (cant think of any off the top of my head).

Looks cool, six RIE Mk82 EDNM's ? mines are useless in a 3 dimensional area of operation even moving homing mines. But I like the logistics idea, it opens up a new train of thought. Credit to you.

Ahhhhhh, nothing like watching the chaos of frenzied downloads and server slowdowns, so all my craft work(except Inquisitor), any major things with you guys?

Did you get my PM HatBat, any thoughts on it(PM me details).

LOL, SSTO MY ASS THE THING IS BIGGER THAN THE AEROSPACE BUILDING. It is way to big to chew and really ambitious but if I can someday make it work then it will be an absolute powerhouse.

The Inquisitor was a stealth superdreadnought, it had I think twice the internal bay capacity of my Reaper class carrier(check the first page).

I do now, yeah it is a shame, but it just did not work, I can PM it to you anyway, in case you can just hyperedit to orbit, but I tried it in atmo and it snaps in half.

Guidelines video? Anyway, I have scrapped the Inquisitor, that thing snowballed into an F-35 style craft. It is way too big, I don't know what else to do, so I am all ears.

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